India not at ease with any neighbors, China at ease with all neighbors except India

[Quibbler]

Then can you explain why PLA hasn't fought any wars for over 4 decades already?


All neighbors claim this part of sea, China is just one of them, that can be seen in many other maritime disputes, but they are hardly can be called" territorial disputes". Everyone makes a claim there, and that's about it.


Indians always fighting wars and conflicts along your borders and against your rebels, when was he last time you hear PLA fired a single shot?

I dont want to say the same line and seem like a simp. But you do realize Chinese media is completely controlled. Of course you wont hear of a conflict. Topics can vanish in Chinese media overnight, a power only few other infamous countries can claim.

Indians always fighting wars and conflicts along your borders and against your rebels, when was he last time you hear PLA fired a single shot?


We'll see, our army has been idle for so long.

That is my point. So claiming that China is peaceful will be more than a bit hippo critical.

 

[beijingwalker]

I dont want to say the same line and seem like a simp. But you do realize Chinese media is completely controlled. Of course you wont hear of a conflict. Topics can vanish in Chinese media overnight, a power only few other infamous countries can claim.

I can access all international news, you believe I'll be in the dark if there's a war breaking out between China and some foreign country?? My goodness, you've been brainwashed by the western media for so long and so deep.

 

[nature is]

ere is a list of the countries that have territorial and border disputes with China:

1. Japan :: Parts of the East China Sea, particularly the Senkaku Islands. Also, on occasion, the Ryukyu Islands, on the grounds that the completely independent Kingdom of Ryukyu was once a vassal state of China. The Kingdom of Ryukyu terminated tributary relations with China in 1874.
   
   
2. Vietnam :: China claims large parts of Vietnam on historical precedent (Ming Dynasty, 1368-1644). Also, Macclesfield Bank, Paracel Islands, parts of the South China Sea and the Spratly Islands.
   
   
3. India :: China illegally occupies 38,000 sq km (Aksai Chin) of land in Jammu & Kashmir. It also holds 5,180 km of Indian territory in Pakistan occupied Kashmir under Sino-Pak agreement of 1963. At the heart of Sino-Indian boundary dispute is the issue of Arunachal Pradesh (90,000 sq km), which China describes as "Southern Tibet". Beijing is demanding that at least the Tawang Tract of Arunachal Pradesh, if not the whole of the state, be transferred to China.
   
   
4. Nepal :: China claims parts of Nepal dating back to the Sino-Nepalese War in 1788-1792. China claims they are part of Tibet, therefore part of China.
   
   
5. North Korea :: Baekdu Mountain and Jiandao. China has also on occasion claimed all of North Korea on historical grounds (Yuan Dynasty, 1271-1368).
   
   
6. The Philippines :: Parts of the South China Sea, particularly Scarborough Shoal and the Spratly Islands. Russia :: 160,000 square kilometres still unilaterally claimed by China, despite China signing several agreements. Singapore :: Parts of the South China Sea.
   
   
7. South Korea :: Parts of the East China Sea. China has also on occasion claimed all of South Korea on historical grounds (Yuan Dynasty, 1271-1368).
   
   
8. Bhutan :: Bhutanese enclaves in Tibet, namely Cherkip Gompa, Dho, Dungmar, Gesur, Gezon, Itse Gompa, Khochar, Nyanri, Ringung, Sanmar, Tarchen and Zuthulphuk. Also Kula Kangri and mountainous areas to the west of this peak, plus the western Haa District of Bhutan.
   
   
9. Taiwan :: China claims all of Taiwan, but particular disputes are: Macclesfi eld Bank, Paracel Islands, Scarborough Shoal, parts of the South China Sea and the Spratly Islands. The Paracel Islands, also called Xisha Islands in Vietnamese, is a group of islands in the South China Sea whose sovereignty is disputed among China, Taiwan and Vietnam disputes with Burma.
   
   
10. Kazakhstan :: There are continual unilateral claims by China on Kazakhstan territory, despite new agreements, in China's favour signed every few years.
    
    
11. Laos :: China claims large areas of Laos on historical precedent (China's Yuan Dynasty, 1271-1368).
    
    
12. Brunei :: Over Spratly Islands. The Spratly Islands is a disputed group of more than 750 reefs, islets, atolls, cays, and islands in the South China Sea. About 45 islands are occupied by small numbers of military forces from the People's Republic of China, Taiwan, Vietnam, the Philippines, and Malaysia. Brunei has also claimed an exclusive economic zone in the southeastern part of the Spratlys encompassing just one area of small islands on Louisa Reef. This has led to escalating tensions.
    
    
13. Tajikistan :: Chinese claims based on historical precedent (Qing Dynasty, 1644-1912).
    
    
14. Cambodia :: China has, on occasion, claimed parts of Cambodia on historical precedent (China's Ming Dynasty, 1368-1644). Indonesia :: Parts of the South China Sea.
    
    
15. Kyrgyzstan :: China claims the majority of Kyrgyzstan on the grounds that it was unfairly forced to cede the territory (which it had formerly conquered) to Russia in the 19th century.
    
    
16. Malaysia :: Over Parts of the South China Sea, particularly the Spratly Islands.
    
    
17. Mongolia :: China claims all of Mongolia on historical precedent (Yuan Dynasty, 1271-1368). In fact, Mongolia, under Genghis Khan, occupied China.
    
    
18. Afghanistan :: Afghan province of Bahdakhshan (despite a bilateral treaty of 1963, China still encroaches on Afghan territory).

Are they are factually correct, North Korea, Taji, Cambodia, Afghanistan.....?
Why do you include historical dispute from 800 years ago which had long been settled?

Indians indeed have low IQ. I'm Speechless.

 

[beijingwalker]

you do realize Chinese media is completely controlled. Of course you wont hear of a conflict. Topics can vanish in Chinese media overnight

Tell me something that you know and you think I don't know, can you? Mongolia is being claimed by China, yes, you are right, I really don't know about this.But this is something only Indians know.

 

[Quibbler]

I can access all international news, you believe I'll be in the dark if there's a war breaking out between China and some foreign country?? My goodness, you've been brainwashed by the western media for so long and so deep.

But does an average Chinese. Even if possible to bypass, most of the populace depends on controlled media for information. And thus news of conflict never reaches a critical mass and many a times is actively deleted.

Tell me something that you know and you think I don't know, can you? Mongolia is being claimed by China, yes, you are right, I really don't know about this.But this is something only Indians know.

As i said, probably not all claims are legit in the list but not all are false either.

 

[beijingwalker]

But does an average Chinese. Even if possible to bypass, most of the populace depends on controlled media for information. And thus news of conflict never reaches a critical mass and many a times is actively deleted.

I m talking about facts, not media, you know nothing about Chinese media. the facts are that PLA hasn't fought any wars for over 4 decades, are you denying it as a fact?

As i said, probably not all claims are legit in the list but not all are false either.

A fake List full of fake claims worth nothing more than used toilet paper.

 

[Quibbler]

I m talking about facts, not media, you know nothing about Chinese media. the facts are that PLA hasn't fought any wars for over 4 decades, are you denying it as a fact?

No. I am countering it with the fact that last war India fought was 5 decades ago.

I m talking about facts, not media, you know nothing about Chinese media. the facts are that PLA hasn't fought any wars for over 4 decades, are you denying it as a fact?


A fake List full of fake claims worth nothing more than used toilet paper.

Are you saying you dont have disputes with India or SCS nations?

 

[beijingwalker]

No. I am countering it with the fact that last war India fought was 5 decades ago.

You guys always fight along your border with Pakistan and your rebels at home, You claim I won't get news, but it seems like it's the other way around.

No. I am countering it with the fact that last war India fought was 5 decades ago.


Are you saying you dont have disputes with India or SCS nations?

We do have some overlapping disputes over some reefs in SCS but never become serious issues, everyone is countering everyone in this region, China is just one of them.

 

[Quibbler]

You guys always fight along your border with Pakistan and your rebels at home, You claim I won't get news, but it seems like it's the other way around.

They are not wars. Am i missing the definition of wars ?.

You people have actively killed Tibetans and forceful quelled pro democracy "rebels" and i can list a lot of stuff about Xinjiang. China isn't as much a saint as you think it is.

 

[beijingwalker]

They are not wars. Am i missing the definition of wars ?.
.

Then we can include border conflicts, neither China did it for the past 40 years.

 

[Quibbler]

You guys always fight along your border with Pakistan and your rebels at home, You claim I won't get news, but it seems like it's the other way around.

We do have some overlapping disputes over some reefs in SCS but never become serious issues, everyone is countering everyone in this region, China is just one of them.

But China is the only one changing the status Quo without consultation. So much for peace. You manmade islands with airstrips and missile batteries really shout "PEACE".

Then we can include border conflicts, neither China did it for the past 40 years.

Good for you, i guess.

 

[beijingwalker]

You people have actively killed Tibetans and forceful quelled pro democracy "rebels" and i can list a lot of stuff about Xinjiang.

Did you ever visit Tibet? Who told you China is killing Tibetans and Uighurs in Xinjiang?

You manmade islands with airstrips and missile batteries really shout "PEACE".
.

Other countries did that before China, but of course just China got the attention of the western media.

 

[Quibbler]

Did you ever visit Tibet? Who told you China is killing Tibetans and Uighurs in Xinjiang?
Other countries did that before China, but of course just China got the attention of the western media.

Can you let me know of any other country that blocked right of international passage through SCS?

 

[beijingwalker]

Can you let me know of any other country that blocked right of international passage through SCS?

If China did it, half of the world trade will be gone. I really don't know how your Indian media work.

The United Nations Conference on Trade and Development (UNCTAD) estimates that roughly 80 percent of global trade by volume and 70 percent by value is transported bysea. Of that volume, 60 percent of maritime trade passes through Asia, with the South China Sea carrying an estimated one-third of global shipping.

You claim that I can't access international news, now it dawns on me you mean Indian news, some jokes I couldn't care less.

 

[Asif Mayet]

Says you who has had to arm SCS to the teeth to bully smaller nation. More like the only nation you cant bully is India. China is the only country in the owrld today with expansionist mindset notwithstanding what you official media might have told you.


Dude you add no value to this forum whatsoever.

Bharat and its machinations to create the so called " Akhand Bharat ".

http://www.riazhaq.com/2014/07/bjp-makes-akhand-bharat-part-of-indian.html

https://starofmysore.com/why-do-neighbours-dislike-india/