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Likely some Iranian heritage his features and his sister's features certainly look very persian/iranian heritage
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In terms of snobbery it was hard to beat the man who claimed to be the last prince of the royal house of Oudh.

"Don't talk to me about the Mughals," Prince Cyrus once bellowed at a friend of mine. "They were as common as dirt."

The Mughals, of course, were the rulers of India from the early 16th Century until the British violently overthrew them in the mid-19th Century. They were, without question, one of the grandest and most powerful imperial families in history.

But Prince Cyrus insisted his lineage was even more noble, despite the fact that he now lived in abject poverty.

The prince was very much a product of his formidably eccentric mother. She called herself Begum Wilayat Mahal and claimed to be the direct heir to the kings of Oudh, whose realm covered much of what is now Uttar Pradesh, India's most populous state.

The family had huge estates and vast palaces, and hosted famously lavish parties. The British regarded them as unacceptably dissolute. A contemporary report describes how the last Nawab of Oudh had resigned himself to a life of "debauchery, dissipation and low pursuits". He was unceremoniously booted off his throne in 1856.

The family lost their fortune but not their sense of entitlement and, in the 1970s, the Begum decided to take action. She camped herself in the First Class Waiting Room of the Delhi railway station together with her young son and daughter, seven liveried Nepali servants, some 15 ferocious bloodhounds, and a collection of huge and beautiful Persian carpets.

And there she insisted she and her retinue would stay until the Indian government recognised the sacrifice she claimed her family had made during the uprising against the British in 1857.

Family took refuge with few reminder of their past , persian carpets which eventually became torn down with age and neglect
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Forced to eat on this small able , with few items.... a truely sad tale
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Once a powerful family reduced to nothing in India even after independence , the government did not give some partial return of what was taken by force for the family i.e their wealth and state

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Forced to live like animals in a deserted building in middle of forest , middle of darkness with no light , or running water

The place did not even had doors or windows !!!

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Can you imagine sleeping here ?
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The damaged persian rugs ... is all that remains of a family left neglected in India
Becasue India did not felt the family deserved a Government assistance even though a large state was stolen from them

True face of INDIA

This should be an eye opener for most Iranians

The land which was owned by the family
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It happens with all the former royals who doesn't want to work but still want indian government to provide for them just because they belong to "Royal blood".
He said "mughals were as common as dirt", says all about his superiority complex. Have seen many allegedly former royal Rajputs with same mentality but after some time they come to their senses and start working for a living like everyone .

He wasn't forced by Indians to live in this situation, he did it himself. Indians are not liable to provide even a cent to former Royals.
 
Not sure how Iranians can trust Indian :o:

I was so shocked to see the beautiful carpets (Likely Persian carpets) the old mother for prince adored so much just lying there in middle of deserted building .....

Not sure how Iranians feel about this but I would be quite astonished but this is how Indians are they also treat Kashmiris and Sikh people badly

Just shocking stuff
 
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This article says british overthrew Mughals, do they realized Marathas has made Mughals literally the mayor of delhi only when British started their expansion? Even awadh paid tributes to marathas, what a ill informed article.
 
If these people built their life on merit and qualification, they would not be forced to live in dirt.
Their best qualifications was stealing and plundering and post-independence the same mentality was inherited by our civilian and military leadership. Corruption is essentially the culture of indopak.
 
An utterly ridiculous article and grossly untrue.

@Tea addict
@somebozo

You will be pleased to learn that the true descendants of the King of Oudh who was deposed have carved out perfectly good and constructive careers for themselves, and do not need handouts to survive.

https://www.dailyo.in/arts/mughals-nawab-wajid-ali-shah-lucknow-kebabs/story/1/20471.html

@AZADPAKISTAN2009

It will break the mean hearts of all those who have been shedding crocodile tears over the fate of this mysterious family that turned up with nothing to substantiate their claims, and in rivalry with the descendants of those who are documented heirs of the last King of Oudh, to learn that the descendants actually get pensions from the Government of India or from the Government of UP, the administrative successors of the Kingdom of Oudh.

I note that your loyal and sincere devotion to these waifs did not extend to informing us that this 'Prince' Cyrus died recently in New Delhi. It would seem that they represented only a propaganda opportunity to you, and not human beings deserving of sympathy for their wretched condition.
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The Kings of Oudh (Britain recognised no other Indian prince as 'King' in India, not even the Mughals) were British allies and financial supporters, and supplied the East India Company with soldiers. Their dissolution became quite excessive towards the end, and finally the East India Company that they had supported so loyally was forced to depose the last ruler and send him into exile in Calcutta, in luxury and comfort. Calcutta gained, some of their cuisine came along and stayed, and Wajid Ali Shah himself was noted as a patron of the arts.

http://www.livemint.com/Leisure/QHh...ry-of-Wajid-Ali-Shah-from-riches-to-rags.html

Their contribution during the Mutiny the next year was minuscule; they were sitting in Calcutta, safe under the watchful eye of the British in their Indian capital. Their sacrifices during this period cannot have much impressed the present Indian government, as the trend in India has been to move progressively towards considering the Indian Mutiny as the First Indian War for Independence. Appealing to the Government for actions supporting the then British colonial administration is hardly likely to appeal.

Of the 561 ruling princes at the time of independence, 12 acceded to Pakistan, 1 was taken over by force by Pakistan, 547 acceded to India and 1 was taken over by force by India. They were given Privy Purses in lieu of their income from their state revenues, at rates that were settled at the time of their accession in terms of their respective agreements, the amount being halved with each successive ruler coming to a titular position due to the demise of the previous ruler. This continued for thirty years after independence. Even these were annulled after thirty years. The former Kings of Oudh got none of this, as Oudh had been absorbed (by the British) in the province called United Province, consisting of a large number of princely states, all nominal vassals of the Mughals in Delhi, themselves the pensioners of the Marathas for years after their rescue by the Marathas from the inhuman brutality of a local family of toughs in the vicinity of Delhi.

These claims are nonsensical, and as useful as the efforts of the last living 'heiress' of the Mughals to seek some kind of official pension and accommodation.

It was amusing to see the repeated appeals to Iran to see the true face of Indian callousness towards an Iranian family. These appeals presumably to stir the sympathies of the country and its people who deposed their own Emperor and whose descendants still live a life of luxury in exile. Regarding the risible attempt to attract Iranian attention by pointing to the Iranian features of the 'Prince', he may look Iranian, however Iranians look, but his ancestors didn't look like him.
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Sadly, the OP is so busy with propaganda that he does not have the decency to mention that Ali Raza, aka Prince Cyrus, died a couple of days ago.

RIP

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/pri...n-his-jungle-palace-in-heart-of-delhi-1772334

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/delhi/this-prince-died-a-pauper/articleshow/61537207.cms
 
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It will break the mean hearts of all those who have been shedding crocodile tears over the fate of this mysterious family that turned up with nothing to substantiate their claims, and in rivalry with the descendants of those who are documented heirs of the last King of Oudh, to learn that the descendants actually get pensions from the Government of India or from the Government of UP, the administrative successors of the Kingdom of Oudh.

This is partially not true because King had many many descendants through hareem and concubines. Karachi is full of such people who trace royal lineage but many lives in slums..

Also my maternal family were genuine land lords of Hydrabad yet they dont get anything from India either.
 
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It seems iNDIAN government did not wanted to look after the people who owned ownership of land and did not give nothing back to the decendents after independence

:o: dodgey country , india :tsk:
 
The real Shahenshah Cyrus must be smashing his head on heaven's walls ...

Nautanki.

Cheers, Doc
 
This is partially not true because King had many many descendants through hareem and concubines. Karachi is full of such people who trace royal lineage but many lives in slums..

Also my maternal family were genuine land lords of Hydrabad yet they dont get anything from India either.

Your family: were their lands confiscated? Or otherwise taken over? They could apply for compensation now, as the present government is very positive towards the heritage of the past.
 
Your family: were their lands confiscated? Or otherwise taken over? They could apply for compensation now, as the present government is very positive towards the heritage of the past.

Hello Uncle Joe. My ancestors ruled most of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh. Their lands were handed over in good faith. Any chance that I could apply for compensation from the Indian government? Perhaps a palace or two in India with paid servants and daily stocks of groceries and luxuries? I will settle for a few Jaguar cars (now that Jaguar pays taxes to India I've been told) and perhaps a few hundred thousand pounds as a lowly stipend to preserve Indian history? Please check and revert :D
 

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