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India: Meet the 'Internet Hindus'​

By Jason Overdorf

June 19‚ 2012 at 9:32 AM


New Delhi: “Internet Hindus are like swarms of bees,” Indian television anchor Sagarika Ghose tweeted in 2010. “They come swarming after you."


The "Internet Hindus" Ghose refers to — actually, she coined the term — are right-wing bloggers and tweeters who seem to follow her every move, pouncing on any mention of hot-button issues like Muslims or Pakistan.

Liberal journalists and netizens sympathized with Ghose's exasperation. But for right-wingers, it was like throwing gasoline on the fire. Since Ghose's tweet, Hindu nationalists and other conservatives opposed to the Congress Party of Sonia Gandhi and Prime Minister Manmohan Singh have, if anything, multiplied and grown more organized — embracing Ghose's derogatory term and making it their own.


Today there are perhaps as many as 20,000 so-called “Internet Hindus,” many tweeting as often as 300 times a day, according to a rough estimate by one of the community's most active members.


“You will find thousands with similar sounding IDs [to mine],” a Twitter user who goes by the handle @internet_hindus said in an anonymous chat interview. “Some [others] prefer to openly do it with their own personal IDs."



Freedom of speech



Internet Hindus, largely because of their numbers and influence, find themselves smack in the middle of India's censorship debate. There are signs the country's growing problem with controversial online content has already eroded legislators' commitment to free speech.


In April 2011, India added new rules to the 2000 Information Technology Act that required websites to remove content authorities deemed objectionable within 36 hours of being told do so. The amendment specifically targeted allegedly defamatory content and hate speech, but it was less than crystal clear how either could be identified reliably without an arduous trip through India's notoriously slow court system.


Some say the new rules simply bend to Congress Party officials' sway. In December, for example, Kapil Sibal, acting telecommunications minister, was reported to have met privately with top executives from Google, Microsoft, Yahoo and Facebook to ask them to pre-screen and censor such content before it appears online. According to the Times of India, 255 out of the 358 requests that Google received to remove content cited criticism of the government as the reason it should be censored.

Offline, Hindu nationalist groups have used threats and violence to prevent people like artist M.F. Hussain and filmmaker Deepa Mehta from speaking or exhibiting works they deemed insulting to Hinduism. But in the online world, many Internet Hindus believe that Sibal has attempted to blur the line between statements that are slanderous or dangerously inflammatory and those that are only politically incorrect.


Journalists, too, are starting to question the value of certain online content.

In a recent article for the Hindustan Times, journalist Namita Bhandare argued that “when Twitter dwindles to a platform for abuse it loses its sheen,” citing tweets that questioned the moral character of an alleged victim of sexual assault, or the patriotism of a tweeter who criticized anti-corruption activist Anna Hazare and happens to be a Muslim.


Television anchor Barkha Dutt has expressed the similar sentiment that “lurking online — usually behind anonymity or names that suggest an evangelical religiosity — are many propagators of hate and violence.”

Though neither of these journalists has openly advocated censorship, their comments are evidence that trolls, or cyber bullies, and others who abuse the freedoms of the web stand to force a cultural shift.


“The government is scared of us,” said Suvendu Huddar, a 33-year-old Mumbai entrepreneur who calls himself "Internet Hindu" online. “That's the reason they want to knock down the internet freedoms through some biased tools, which seem to be coming up very soon.”


When good Hindus go bad

The Internet Hindus don't have a monopoly on trolling, of course — some, like aspiring right-wing Bharatiya Janata Party politician Jits Gajaria, say they've had their own run-ins with abusive stalkers. But because they are so numerous, so committed, and can appear so organized — whether or not they are part of a formal network — it's the Hindu nationalist tweeters who have drawn the most flak.


“[Congress party] supporters tend to shout 'Troll' early and leave,” said Samit, a 37-year-old marketing consultant based in Mumbai. “The reason, in my opinion, is simple. Nationalists tend to have stronger views and are more assured about their 'identity.' This is generally miscontrued as 'stubborn' and ego-driven by the guilt driven/anxious liberals.”

Still, the trolls are out there.


Harini Calamur, for instance, a media professional and self-described “old-fashioned liberal,” frequently attracts online abusers — whether it's for her advocacy of due legal process for alleged terrorists or her support of free speech for controversial figures like Salman Rushdie. In one episode, a particularly odious tweeter from the Hindu right kept her Twitter feed busy with a relentless rant for more than 12 hours.

Similarly, Priyanka Chaturvedi, who holds an elected position with the youth wing of the Congress in Mumbai, has been targeted for attack for her statements on the anti-corruption movement's Hazare and Gujarat's chief minister Narendra Modi — who is vying to become BJP's prime minister candidate, though liberals still hold him responsible for what they call a deadly pogrom against Muslims in Ahmedabad in 2002. Modi is the principal hero of most Internet Hindus, along with Janata Party President Subramanian Swamy.


“I heard things like I'm a paid Congress agent,” Chaturvedi said. “[They said] I'm a Sonia Gandhi agent. I was called a *****. I was called a *****. Any time I tweet about Narendra Modi, they say I'm paid to tweet.”


Committed Internet Hindus argue that it's easy to block abusive users on Twitter, so there's no need to complain. And all of the people who agreed to talk with GlobalPost — whether openly or anonymously — said that the community discourages tweets that are simply abusive, if for no other reason than that they do nothing for the cause.


“I have always maintained that disagreements have full space in democracy but abuse does not,” said Gajaria. “I have called up abusive tweeple [Twitter users] more than a few times for crossing the line. I feel abuse weakens your argument and chance to win a debate.”


Who are the Hindus?

Many Internet Hindus say they don't have any political affiliation — apart from a deep-rooted disdain for the Congress Party. But broadly speaking, most of them seem to sympathize with an ethnic nationalist doctrine called “Hindutva,” or “Hinduness,” which is the unifying ideology of the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh, or “National Organization of Volunteers” (RSS), a paramilitary organization with as many as 5 million members, and the BJP, its political wing.

Hindutva developed in opposition to the idea of secularism promoted by India's first prime minister, Jawaharlal Nehru of the Congress Party. It proposes that India is first and foremost a Hindu nation, and rather than “appeasing” Muslims and other minorities with special privileges, the government should promote Hindu culture.


“I want the Hindu dignity of India to be restored,” said another 23-year-old Internet Hindu who has yet to join any political organization, in a representative comment. “We've had a glorious past but the Muslim invaders, the Mughals and the Brits destroyed our sense of pride. After independence, the [Congress] continued with that policy. It continued with laws and acts drafted by the British and never bothered to frame new laws which incorporated the spirit of Bharat [India]. It continued with blatant Muslims appeasement while Hindus were reduced to second-grade citizens in their own land.”

At various points in history, Hindutva and the RSS — sort of like Boy Scouts of America crossed with the Ku Klux Klan — have proven problematic. One of RSS's chief ideologues, Madhav Sadashiv Golwalkar, expressed open admiration for Adolf Hitler's ideas of racial (or in this case, ethnic) purity in “We or Our Nation Defined,” one of the founding texts of Hindutva, in 1938.


“Kar sevaks” or “volunteers” inspired by the ideology tore down the 16th Century Babri Mosque in 1992, sparking nationwide Hindu-Muslim riots. Members of the Bajrang Dal — an organization affiliated with the RSS and known for beating up couples on Valentine's Day — burned to death an Australian Christian missionary and his two sons in 1999. And breakaway Hindutva extremists have been accused of perpetrating terrorist attacks on Indian mosques and Muslim shrines in 2007 and 2008.

That said, however, few, if any, of today's Internet Hindus profess support for such extreme manifestations of the dogma.


“[Muslims] are equal citizens of this country. This country belongs as much to them as much to me and everyone else. As long as they don't indulge in terrorism and/or forced conversions, I have nothing against them,” said Suresh Nakhua, a BJP member who attends RSS functions.


According to an informal online survey, the Internet Hindus are mostly young, educated professionals — as one might expect in a medium that requires a computer and a strong command of English. More than half of them are under 30 years old, 80 percent have undergraduate or graduate degrees, and two-thirds of them earn more than $10,000 a year — putting them on the high end of India's middle class.

Moreover, in branding them as fanatics and trolls, more liberal or “secular” Indians risk missing just how mainstream their anger has become.

“Why is it if there's such vocal Hindutva anger among the middle class, English-speaking classes, why don't we get to know it?” said Shivam Vij, a blogger with a left-wing political commentary site called Kafila.org. “In our English mainstream media, the right wing has very little voice.”

India: Meet the 'Internet Hindus' | GlobalPost
 
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Yarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr this EXACTLY describes little 'Hindooooooosssssssssss" we have in PDF .. :lol:

Good term though ..

'Internet Hindus'

These internet hindus are guys with no real life..in reality...they won't even open their tongue infront of you ...lol
 
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No wonder i have seen more anti-muslim hindus on the internet than i have ever seen or met living here in India .I just always knew that all the anti muslim comments being made on TOI articles and Rediff.com article even though the article had nothing to do with Islam had to be coming form the same number of suspected trolls .The comments just always sounded so similar , they all had the same thing written in different ways .Anyway I am relieved to read that this is just the same brigade of idiotic people making all these comments .some of them seem to have made there way here on Defence.pk as well .

Yarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr this EXACTLY describes little 'Hindooooooosssssssssss" we have in PDF .. :lol:

Good term though ..

'Internet Hindus'

These internet hindus are guys with no real life..in reality...they won't even open their tongue infront of you ...lol

You seem to be the perfect example of a counterpart of those Internet hindus , post reported :lol:
 
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^^ I am surprised that you guys did not know about internet hindu, you can google and get lots more info. I knew about it at least 2 years back, I guess I should have posted information about this, but I thought everyone already knew:
http://www.mid-day.com/specials/201...onimity-bloggers-anti-muslims-sanjay-kaul.htm


internethindu.jpg


Meet the Internet Hindus
By: DAIPAYAN HALDER Date: 2010-04-25

Delhi:
A fast-growing tribe of fanatics who tweet, are e-friends of the BJP, or scuppies on a self-awareness drive. They are out to own the web, finds Daipayan Halder

Anonymity is powerful. Ask Ranojoy.

The web designer dropped his surname from his passport to do away with his caste identity, and has taken up a new name for his Twitter account to say what he feels.

And Ranojoy feels strongly about his Hindu-ness, which he loves asserting from behind the veil of Internet anonymity.

He is part of a growing tribe called Internet Hindus, a term coined by journalist Sagarika Ghose after she blocked on Twitter those who aggressively and often abusively commented on her "pseudo-secular thoughts".

"The ones I came across are defined by their total hatred for Muslims, Pakistan, so-called pseudosecular journalists and activist women. Narendra Modi is their hero," Ghose said, when asked why she blocked them.

Other journalists and bloggers also described Internet Hindus as "loonies", "online friends of the BJP", "fanatics", "Hindu Taliban" and "gutter snipes".

However, this is what Internet Hindus claim they are achieving, and it is significant, if insidious: They are cornering public opinion online. They argue that the Left-liberal intelligentsia monopolise opinion on television and newspapers, no TV anchor calls people who speak up for Hindus or Hinduism. But the Internet is ours, they say.

Ranojoy, for instance, admits that a lot is not right with his religion, including the caste system. "But it is still the most tolerant of all religions and shouldn't be allowed to be hijacked by fanatics or derided by pseudo-secularists," he says.

In his article 'Don't block the Internet Hindus', journalist Kanchan Gupta wrote that tired of being derided by pseudo-secularists in media "who see nothing wrong with Muslim communalism and Christian fundamentalism but are swift to pounce upon Hindus for being "intolerant, their cultural ethos crudely denigrated by the Left-liberal intelligentsia as antediluvian, Hindus have begun to harness technology to strike back with deadly effect".

Sanjay Kumar teaches Art of Living and is a proud Internet Hindu.
He says you don't have to be a Muslim-basher to assert your Hindu identity.

Gupta also says Internet Hindus are not just supporters of the BJP, even some of those who are critical of the party's policies belong to the tribe. "They are bright, well-educated, not burdened with regional and caste biases, amazingly wellinformed on national issues and world affairs, rooted in Indian culture and are politically alert," he says.

If Arundhati can cheer Maoists...

Sanjay Kaul, member of Delhi BJP's executive council and a self-confessed Internet Hindu, says it is not just about a political party.

"This is about being self-aware, taking pride in something fundamental: your religion. If you can publish Arundhati Roy who supports Maoists, why do you have a problem with us? For too long, the Left-Liberal media has tried to suppress Hindu identity. Internet is changing the game."

Unlike Kaul, Sanjay Kumar is not a BJP office-bearer. He teaches Art of Living and is a proud Internet Hindu, often commenting on blog posts. He says you don't have to be a Muslimbasher to assert your Hindu identity.

"Truth or God cannot be monopolised by anybody. Hinduism teaches you that. Hinduism teaches you to be moderate. There is a need to popularise Hindu philosophy, through Internet more than anything else," he says.

And yes, banning FTV is real silly

Gupta says that Internet Hindus are open to ideas, believe in a plural, lawabiding society and swear by the Constitution. "They are often appalled by the shenanigans of our politicians, including those of the BJP, and are ruthless in decrying politics of identity and cynical votebank policies. They have no gender prejudices and most of them think banning FTV is downright silly in this day and age."

Another Internet Hindu, Vivek Srivastava, joint managing director of an advertising agency in Delhi, says his tribe gets a bad name when a few get abusive or obscurantist. "Some use swear words and deride minorities. They are the ones who fail to take recourse to logic in their arguments.

I have many Muslim friends and we often have healthy debates on Islam. If I blog about them, where is the problem. But yes, abusive language is an absolute no-no."

Refuge under the Invisibility Cloak

That, though, remains a problem area. Many feel the anonymity that Internet provides, gives you the chance to express extreme views. Santosh Kumar Patra, who's doing a doctoral research on Space, Identity and Community in Internetbased communication from JNU, says internet allows de-fragmentation of identity, which can be dangerous.

"You can be a moderate during the day, but at night, in the privacy of your home, with an anonymous online identity, you can give vent to your most extreme sentiments," says Patra.

"It's a fact that many who assert their Hindu identity online do so by pulling down people of other faith, or by using cuss words. That gives the pseudo-secularists a chance to ridicule us. With time, hopefully, saner voices will speak up for Hindus on the Net," says Ranojoy.

Till then, we can all play Farmville.

THE HANDBOOK

How to be a responsible Internet Hindu

>>Steer clear of abusive language while commenting on a blogpost, even if you vehemently disagree with the blogger's point of view. While tolerance is Hinduism's basic tenet, Internet Hindus are known for anything but that.
>>To persuade, use logic, not emotions. That ups your credibility and forces even critics to take you seriously. >>Don't attack a single blogger in hordes. It makes it seem like the whole thing is orchestrated. If someone has already said what you want to say, think of something new to say or restrain yourself.
>>Narendra Modi cannot be the only Hindu hero of modern times. He has turned into a mascot for Internet Hindus. It's okay to highlight his pluses, but leave room for debate on his flaws too.
>>Respect women in general, especially on the net. Many women bloggers have complied against the blatantly sexist remarks made by certain Internet Hindus. With all its deliberations on female Shakti, Hinduism does not teach you to disrespect women.

IDENTITY IN NUMBERS
Facts thrown up by an ongoing online survey, open to all Hindus who use the Internet:

Of those who responded, 88.9% identified themselves as 'Internet Hindus', indicating they attach no shame to the term.
Of these, 4% are aged 20 years and below.
55% are aged 30 and below.
31% are 40 and below, and, only 10%are aged above 40. So, 90%of them are young Indians.
EDUCATIONAL PROFILE OF THE RESPONDENTS

43% are graduates (most of them from topnotch engineering, science and medical colleges)
46% are postgraduates (a large number of them have MBA degrees)
11% have a PhD
17.3% are without jobs and studying
EARNINGS:
Of the 82.7% per cent who are employed, 3.1% earn up to Rs 2 lakh a year 18.4% earn up to Rs 6 lakh a year 34.7% earn up to RS 12 lakh a year 26.5% earn more than Rs 24 lakh a year

Bloggers say:

FASCISTS!
"I was attacked by the Internet Hindus, not only for being pro-Muslim, but for also for being a woman and a Dalit activist. They have called me a prostitute. A fascist mentality prevails among them. I was also attacked for criticising Gandhi for what he did to Ambedkar. There is no logic to what they say, only abuse."
MEENA KANDASAMY, DALIT ACTIVIST, POET, BLOGGER


"I'd rather not generalise. I imagine Sagarika (Ghose) and Kanchan (Gupta) mean different things. But I will share with you one learning as an Internet veteran: in the online world, debate can get much more polarised than in meatspace, and there are far more extreme elements. If their shrill rhetoric disturbs you, there's only one way to react: ignore them. No one listens to them outside their own echo chambers. Sagorika will do well to consider an old Internet saying: Never wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and the pig enjoys it."
AMIT VERMA, BLOGGER


Internet Hindus take on left-liberal media
The disgusting communal stereotyping notwithstanding, it must be said that Sagarika Ghose's fulminations and Vir Sanghvi's confessions betray a growing disquiet in the Delhi-based leftie media elite, that they are challenged by a generation of Internet-savvy nationalist Center Right Indians who defy the psuedo-Hindutva stereotype. Hence, this new label Internet Hindus. So, thank you Sanghvi and Ghose for labeling us Internet Hindus, we will wear it on our shoulders with pride to remind you of the Center Right movement that shall end the psuedoprogressive monopoly on politics and policy drawing inspiration from Dharma and Constitutionality.

From Sanjay Kaul's blog
SANJAY KAUL'S WEBLOG
 
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Just like there are Internet Hindus there are Internet Muslims...this thing happens when one religions tries to prove itself as superior to other one and calls other religion's followers as kafirs and pagans...
 
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May be they are anti-pseudosecularism so rampantly practiced in India.
 
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Well I'm glad internet Hindus are just the scum of their society and don't represent the majority of Indians. For a while I was starting to hate all Indians for the comments of a few.
 
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Well I'm glad internet Hindus are just the scum of their society and don't represent the majority of Indians. For a while I was starting to hate all Indians for the comments of a few.

The feeling is mutual.

And before calling them scum refer to below:

According to an informal online survey, the Internet Hindus are mostly young, educated professionals — as one might expect in a medium that requires a computer and a strong command of English. More than half of them are under 30 years old, 80 percent have undergraduate or graduate degrees, and two-thirds of them earn more than $10,000 a year — putting them on the high end of India's middle class.

May be they are educated enough to see through the masks and see things for what it is.
 
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