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An unstable Afghanistan is preferable to India rather than an Afghanistan ruled by the Taliban. Here's to muddying the waters.
Spot on!Forget Kabul, Taliban is so weak that they have failed to take a single one of Afghanistan's 34 provincial capitals.
And why will they do it??.... What Pakistan can give them...what could Pakistan give to it's part of Kashmir in last 73 years? They have seen what Pakistan is capable of... 2019 was the best time when it should have acted after abrogation of Art 370...now it's futile to beat the dead horse. .. More so, If Taliban can be sensible and change their ways to look after themselves...Kashmiris are far ahead.....I guess Pakistan has lost it...too late too little....Kashmiris will never get freedom from India unless they start waging jihad just as the Afghans did against the invaders. Any reliance on Pakistan ever being able to 'liberate' Kashmir is a distant dream, one which becomes unrealistic every day that India gets stronger financially, diplomatically and militarily and Pakistan becomes weaker.
Indian wet fantasy is the so called "Naval blockade" at straight of Hormuz and choke points at straights of Malacca against Chinese ships. Lets see, US abandoning Afghanistan means China gets free land routes, good luck with those useless Naval bases. India get played by the US...3 billion down the tube, shattered economic prospects with massive foreign debt. US India alliance also made sure India serve Western interest and limiting India infrastructure build out. India corrupt elites gets a free pass for looting and safe heaven in US and europe. Elites wins, and society looses.Yup, and you lot are dumb enough to think all your neighbours in South Asia have not worked out this mentality of yours.
Ask yourself why India cannot even defeat Chinese influence in Nepal, Bangladesh or Sri Lanka. None of them trust you, and after seeing your Afghan adventure this is not only a massive blow to US prestige, but Indians too.
Now India can pretty much forget about any Central Asian ambitions it had, and maybe, just maybe, you may hang on to that little base the Maldives gave you.
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Water seems pretty clear from our vantage point.
I guess India will be reminded of The Taliban every year on their Independence Day. Don't worry, we won't let you forget. After all, we've been reminding you of Operation Swift Retort/Surprise Day for two straight years.
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You were saying...
Water seems pretty clear from our vantage point.
I guess India will be reminded of The Taliban every year on their Independence Day. Don't worry, we won't let you forget. After all, we've been reminding you of Operation Swift Retort/Surprise Day for two straight years.
@Goritoes @GumNaam @TheSnakeEatingMarkhur @Dalit @Yasser76 @Salza @maverick1977 @Taimoor Khan @CIA Mole @Areesh @Cash GK @newb3e @Daghalodi @ziaulislam @GamoAccu
How ludicrous!India confident Kabul won’t fall to Taliban, is moving on ‘multiple tracks’ on Afghanistan
NAYANIMA BASU
26 July, 2021 9:27 pm IST
New Delhi: India is “confident” that Kabul “will not fall to the Taliban” even though it believes the security situation in Afghanistan is going to deteriorate further and become “more dangerous” in the next two-three months as the insurgents begin to attack urban centres, ThePrint has learnt.
According to sources, New Delhi’s assessment of the rapidly changing situation in Afghanistan is that the Taliban are currently waiting for the “complete withdrawal” of US and other NATO troops by 31 August.
After that, New Delhi believes, the Taliban fighters in Afghanistan are going to escalate their level of violence, and “focus on urban areas”.
The Taliban, sources said, are eyeing the takeover of some key provinces and cities to strengthen their positions in Kandahar, Helmund, Ghazni and Jalalabad, among other areas.
Besides this, sources added, the Taliban are looking to take over border checkpoints as they serve the twin purposes of revenue earning as well as control. Sher Khan Bandar, the border crossing with Tajikistan, and Spin Boldak, along the Afghan-Pakistan border, have witnessed massive violence by the Taliban.
However, the Taliban, sources said, would not “like to be seen” as “taking control by force” in their quest for “legitimacy” from the international community, which is the reason why they are sending delegations to Turkey, Uzbekistan, Russia and Iran.
With the Taliban having captured 45 per cent of the country in the churn triggered by the US-NATO withdrawal, their rapid advance has triggered concerns about its potential impact on the subcontinent and beyond.
Worries about international terrorists fighting alongside the Taliban have been raised as a matter of concern not only by India, but also China, Russia and Uzbekistan, sources said.
India is convinced that the Taliban are receiving “tactical and logistical support from Pakistan”, so New Delhi is keeping an eye on this aspect too.
India, sources said, will discuss all these issues with the US during the visit of Secretary of State Antony J. Blinken, who will be meeting External Affairs Minister S. Jaishankar and Prime Minister Narendra Modi on 28 July.
Also Read: Abdullah Abdullah meets Jaishankar as Kabul plans massive retaliation against Taliban
‘Multiple tracks’
In terms of talking to the Taliban as their entry into mainstream politics in Afghanistan becomes imminent, sources said, New Delhi is moving on “multiple tracks” and engaging with “all stakeholders” to the Afghan situation, which includes the Taliban.
As a democracy itself, sources added, India will continue to stand beside the elected government in Afghanistan. However, India sees a power-sharing deal between the Afghan government and the Taliban as the “best case scenario” for long-term stability in the war-torn country.
Sources said this will not be achieved easily since the Doha peace process has almost come to a halt, and multiple power centres have emerged within the Taliban, which they added is not a monolith anymore. Differences have cropped up, they said, among leaders like Mullah Baradar, Sher Mohammad Abbas Stanikzai and Mullah Mohammad Yaqoob.
According to sources, the Taliban are deliberately delaying the peace talks in Doha. Their main demands, they said, are the release of prisoners — about 7,000 of them — from Afghan jails, and getting rid of the global terrorist tag from the United Nations Security Council.
India began engaging with the Taliban, sources said, when External Affairs Minister S. Jaishankar participated in the intra-Afghan talks in Doha, which began in September 2020.
India believes the Taliban are supported by Pakistan, with sources saying that the bodies of insurgents who are dying in Afghanistan are being sent across the border while the injured are also going to Pakistan to get treatment before coming back.
This is primarily the reason why Afghan President Ashraf Ghani — during the connectivity event in Uzbekistan earlier this month — indirectly slammed Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan, while they were on the same stage, for not imposing enough restrictions on the movement of terrorists and not doing enough to bring the Taliban to the negotiating table.
India is concerned that terrorists from the Pakistan-based Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) and Jaish-e-Mohammed (JeM) have joined hands with the Taliban, with sources saying that similar worries dog China and Uzbekistan, with respect to the East Turkestan Islamic Movement (ETIM) and the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan, respectively.
While Afghan Army chief General Wali Mohammad Ahmadzai postponed his trip this week due to the Taliban’s strengthening offensive, New Delhi sees the Afghanistan National Defense and Security Forces (ANDSF) as being better prepared now to take on the challenge.
While the ANDSF “lost the momentum” initially, they have now changed and reoriented their strategy to counter the Taliban, the sources said.
Forget Kabul, Taliban is so weak that they have failed to take a single one of Afghanistan's 34 provincial capitals.India confident Kabul won’t fall to Taliban, is moving on ‘multiple tracks’ on Afghanistan
New Delhi’s assessment of situation in Afghanistan is that Taliban are waiting for complete withdrawal of US and NATO troops before turning focus to urban centres.theprint.in
India number 1. Best intelligence in world.India confident Kabul won’t fall to Taliban, is moving on ‘multiple tracks’ on Afghanistan
NAYANIMA BASU
26 July, 2021 9:27 pm IST
New Delhi: India is “confident” that Kabul “will not fall to the Taliban” even though it believes the security situation in Afghanistan is going to deteriorate further and become “more dangerous” in the next two-three months as the insurgents begin to attack urban centres, ThePrint has learnt.
According to sources, New Delhi’s assessment of the rapidly changing situation in Afghanistan is that the Taliban are currently waiting for the “complete withdrawal” of US and other NATO troops by 31 August.
After that, New Delhi believes, the Taliban fighters in Afghanistan are going to escalate their level of violence, and “focus on urban areas”.
The Taliban, sources said, are eyeing the takeover of some key provinces and cities to strengthen their positions in Kandahar, Helmund, Ghazni and Jalalabad, among other areas.
Besides this, sources added, the Taliban are looking to take over border checkpoints as they serve the twin purposes of revenue earning as well as control. Sher Khan Bandar, the border crossing with Tajikistan, and Spin Boldak, along the Afghan-Pakistan border, have witnessed massive violence by the Taliban.
However, the Taliban, sources said, would not “like to be seen” as “taking control by force” in their quest for “legitimacy” from the international community, which is the reason why they are sending delegations to Turkey, Uzbekistan, Russia and Iran.
With the Taliban having captured 45 per cent of the country in the churn triggered by the US-NATO withdrawal, their rapid advance has triggered concerns about its potential impact on the subcontinent and beyond.
Worries about international terrorists fighting alongside the Taliban have been raised as a matter of concern not only by India, but also China, Russia and Uzbekistan, sources said.
India is convinced that the Taliban are receiving “tactical and logistical support from Pakistan”, so New Delhi is keeping an eye on this aspect too.
India, sources said, will discuss all these issues with the US during the visit of Secretary of State Antony J. Blinken, who will be meeting External Affairs Minister S. Jaishankar and Prime Minister Narendra Modi on 28 July.
Also Read: Abdullah Abdullah meets Jaishankar as Kabul plans massive retaliation against Taliban
‘Multiple tracks’
In terms of talking to the Taliban as their entry into mainstream politics in Afghanistan becomes imminent, sources said, New Delhi is moving on “multiple tracks” and engaging with “all stakeholders” to the Afghan situation, which includes the Taliban.
As a democracy itself, sources added, India will continue to stand beside the elected government in Afghanistan. However, India sees a power-sharing deal between the Afghan government and the Taliban as the “best case scenario” for long-term stability in the war-torn country.
Sources said this will not be achieved easily since the Doha peace process has almost come to a halt, and multiple power centres have emerged within the Taliban, which they added is not a monolith anymore. Differences have cropped up, they said, among leaders like Mullah Baradar, Sher Mohammad Abbas Stanikzai and Mullah Mohammad Yaqoob.
According to sources, the Taliban are deliberately delaying the peace talks in Doha. Their main demands, they said, are the release of prisoners — about 7,000 of them — from Afghan jails, and getting rid of the global terrorist tag from the United Nations Security Council.
India began engaging with the Taliban, sources said, when External Affairs Minister S. Jaishankar participated in the intra-Afghan talks in Doha, which began in September 2020.
India believes the Taliban are supported by Pakistan, with sources saying that the bodies of insurgents who are dying in Afghanistan are being sent across the border while the injured are also going to Pakistan to get treatment before coming back.
This is primarily the reason why Afghan President Ashraf Ghani — during the connectivity event in Uzbekistan earlier this month — indirectly slammed Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan, while they were on the same stage, for not imposing enough restrictions on the movement of terrorists and not doing enough to bring the Taliban to the negotiating table.
India is concerned that terrorists from the Pakistan-based Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) and Jaish-e-Mohammed (JeM) have joined hands with the Taliban, with sources saying that similar worries dog China and Uzbekistan, with respect to the East Turkestan Islamic Movement (ETIM) and the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan, respectively.
While Afghan Army chief General Wali Mohammad Ahmadzai postponed his trip this week due to the Taliban’s strengthening offensive, New Delhi sees the Afghanistan National Defense and Security Forces (ANDSF) as being better prepared now to take on the challenge.
While the ANDSF “lost the momentum” initially, they have now changed and reoriented their strategy to counter the Taliban, the sources said.
Forget Kabul, Taliban is so weak that they have failed to take a single one of Afghanistan's 34 provincial capitals.India confident Kabul won’t fall to Taliban, is moving on ‘multiple tracks’ on Afghanistan
New Delhi’s assessment of situation in Afghanistan is that Taliban are waiting for complete withdrawal of US and NATO troops before turning focus to urban centres.theprint.in