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India has barred Israel Military Industries, as well as five other foreign defense contractors, from bidding for defense contracts in the country for 10 years. IMI was notified yesterday of Monday's decision by the Indian Ministry of Defense and says it will appeal.

The ban followed an investigation by India's Central Bureau of Investigation. The agency, which completed its probe in 2009, concluded that there was sufficient evidence to implicate the blacklisted firms in bribing Sudipta Ghosh, the former director of Ordnance Factories, and other officers to win six contracts.

The companies were given hearings but the ministry found their explanations lacking.

The CBI recommended that action be taken against the companies. The decision is expected to affect not only IMI's activities in India but also those of other Israeli defense firms.

Although the outcome of the investigation had long been known, the Israeli defense establishment greeted the decision with surprise. Defense officials said they thought the hearing process for IMI was still continuing. Earlier yesterday IMI said it hadn't received official notice of the blacklist decision; the notice did however arrive later in the day.

"The Defense Ministry was surprised to hear of the decision by the Indian Ministry of Defense, because the hearing process for IMI against the intent of imposing sanctions on it had not been completed, and especially since IMI had very good claims against the move," the Defense Ministry said in a statement yesterday, adding that it will consult with IMI on a response.

IMI said in a statement that it did and does obey the law and will continue to work with the Indian authorities to resolve the issue. In any case, it said, it plans to appeal on the grounds that the conclusion is based on "erroneous facts" and ignores information submitted by the company.

It is thought that IMI had only begun developing its operations in the Indian market and had signed an agreement to build a factory - the agreement that triggered the investigation. Since the probe began IMI has all but frozen its activities in India; no other deals have been reported.

India is considered a key export market for Israeli defense companies. All the players, including Israel Aerospace Industries, Rafael Advanced Defense Systems and Elbit Systems, bid for Indian tenders. Some Israeli defense manufacturers are building factories in India, mainly to meet the requirements of reciprocal procurement agreements.

Industry sources outside IMI have expressed concern that IMI's presence on the blacklist could affect other Israeli firms, though there have been no signs of any recoil yet.

They also suggested that the Indian decision could hamstring Israeli government efforts to privatize IMI. Since India had been considered one of its biggest customers, the loss could diminish IMI's value.

The other companies placed on the blacklist were Singapore Technologies Kinetics, Rheinmetall Air Defence Zurich, Corporation Defence Russia, T.S. Kisan & Co. and R.K. Machine Tools. The last two are Indian companies.

Bribery allegations abound

In the past, Israel Aerospace Industries had been accused of landing jobs by bribing Indian officials. The company denied the allegations and was not part of the Central Bureau of Investigation's probe.

Nor has there been any mention of adding IAI to the blacklist. After publication of the suspicions, IAI won billions of dollars worth of deals in India.

Earlier this week it turned out that Soltam, a member of the Elbit Systems group of companies, had been blacklisted by the Philippines back in July 2011, for one year.

Soltam is well known in Israeli households for its stainless steel cookware, but in military circles it's better known for making advanced artillery systems, mortars, ammunition and auxiliary equipment. Elbit Systems bought the controlling interest in Soltam in 2010, after Soltam was accused of bribing officials in Kazakhstan. The company denied the allegations.

Soltam's client in the Philippines was the army. The allegation against it isn't corruption, it's failing to deliver two orders before an October 2010 deadline. Elbit Systems did not comment on the move by Manila.


India blacklists Israel Military Industries for 10 years - Israel News | Haaretz Daily Newspaper
 
@Abingdonboy I hope you are right, this blackmailing thing is all stupidity. We Indians will not so easily let go haramkhori ki kamyee, its in our blood.
 
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@Abingdonboy I hope you are right, this blackmailing thing is all stupidity. We Indians will not so easily let go haramkhori ki kamyee, its in our blood.

Yep the blacklisting serves no purpose other than to act as an over-the-top knee-jerk response from Indian politicians trying to cover their own backsides.

Blacklisting not only negatively affects equipment already in service (ie MIG-29K simulators), excludes certain products from entering into future tenders but also negatively affects on going tenders that are at the closing stages as in many cases a blacklist results in a single entrant in a particular tender and this more often than not results in the entire deal being cancelled no matter how good the remaining product was.

As such many procurements end up going around in circles to the detriment of the Indian military.



All in all this new, more pragmatic, approach by the MoD to not blacklist OEMs, instead take legal recourse against the perpetrators, where necessary, is a welcome move that is far more mature and effective in the long-run.


This go-to blacklist culture that had set in over the past few years in the MoD was extremely detrimental to India's military modernisation efforts it had also gotten out of control- in many recent blacklisting cases entire defence companies (and their innocent subsidiaries) had been blacklisted without even a shred of evidence but based purely on hearsay.
 
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All in all this new, more pragmatic, approach by the MoD to not blacklist OEMs, instead take legal recourse against the perpetrators, where necessary, is a welcome move that is far more mature and effective in the long-run.

Which is what they are doing right now as well! In both cases investigations will be issued and if they find out companies to be guilty for bribery, they will be punished. The only difference is the result, because if companies had to be afraid of beeing blacklisted and not able to participate in the most lucrative defence market in the world, they had to fear to loose billions and what do they loose now?

Lets say the investigations find out that Agosta Westland / Fincantieri had bribered anybody that actively could influence the decisions in the VIP helicopter deal. The current result would be black listing, which then would cut them of on several other competitions in India worth billions.
But if the punishment will be banning certain middlemen and give them some fines, possibly even some millions fine to Fincantieri, while they remain in any competition of our forces, where is the punishment?

Also think about Indias reputation in the world, which is very low wrt bribery anyway, but no matter if we like Mr A.K. Antony or not, his strong and clean way had improved our image and also the way companies approach big ticket competitions. Going back now shows only weakness and opens the door for more bribery not less!

The biggest problem though is, that bribery has two sides, the one that gives the money and the one that takes, in some cases even asks for it. But we only look at the foreigners and don't look at our side, where are the increased punishment orders for officers, MoD officials, or officials of the Indian industry? If we want less bribery, we have to remain with the strong stand against such companies, but equally put high punishments on the other side of the bribery.

For instance, does anybody know what happend to the officer that asked for money from Dassault officials during Aero India? Was he punished, if yes how? Why didn't MoD/IAF took it as an example and punished him hard? Wouldn't that had been a powerful statement for both sides?
 
Sry I didn;t notice it was 1 yr old. I heard a rumor that if such cases come to light, it is because one person got upset that they weren;t bribed enough. Don't know if it is true, but seeing Air Chief Tyago get charged......could be possible.
 
Which is what they are doing right now as well! In both cases investigations will be issued and if they find out companies to be guilty for bribery, they will be punished. The only difference is the result, because if companies had to be afraid of beeing blacklisted and not able to participate in the most lucrative defence market in the world, they had to fear to loose billions and what do they loose now?

Lets say the investigations find out that Agosta Westland / Fincantieri had bribered anybody that actively could influence the decisions in the VIP helicopter deal. The current result would be black listing, which then would cut them of on several other competitions in India worth billions.
But if the punishment will be banning certain middlemen and give them some fines, possibly even some millions fine to Fincantieri, while they remain in any competition of our forces, where is the punishment?

Also think about Indias reputation in the world, which is very low wrt bribery anyway, but no matter if we like Mr A.K. Antony or not, his strong and clean way had improved our image and also the way companies approach big ticket competitions. Going back now shows only weakness and opens the door for more bribery not less!

The biggest problem though is, that bribery has two sides, the one that gives the money and the one that takes, in some cases even asks for it. But we only look at the foreigners and don't look at our side, where are the increased punishment orders for officers, MoD officials, or officials of the Indian industry? If we want less bribery, we have to remain with the strong stand against such companies, but equally put high punishments on the other side of the bribery.

For instance, does anybody know what happend to the officer that asked for money from Dassault officials during Aero India? Was he punished, if yes how? Why didn't MoD/IAF took it as an example and punished him hard? Wouldn't that had been a powerful statement for both sides?

Come on, blacklisting should only be used as a measure of last resort not the de facto measure taken anytime such allegations are made. Only after extensive and conclusive investigations blacklisting can be an option but it can't be the first measure. When the assumption is you are wrong until proven guilty, the way blacklisting was used by the MoD it was you are guilty if even the most ludicrious of allegations are made against you and then you are blacklisted for an outrageous number of years from the largest defence market on earth.

This policy made India look immature, incompetent and lazy.


And your point of blacklisting being the ultimate deterrent is moot surely- up until very recently blacklisting was still the go-to punitive action and yet this AW fiasco is still supposed to have happened with blacklisting on the table. Blacklisting has been around for many years but has it stopped any of those accused of wrongdoing ie IMI, Denal,Rheinmettal etc??


A much more mature and reasonable approach is to take action against those specific individuals who have actually done wrong but not to punish a company as a whole which affects both that company and the Indian military in a serious way.


The fact is in the past the MoD used blacklisting as a way of claiming closure to a scandal but let those who actually did wrong get away scot-free because, as far as the MoD and Indian people were concerned, the matter was closed as the company involved had been blacklisted. The new policy is to actually take action against those individuals in the wrong which is far more effective and measured not to mention mature.

The biggest problem though is, that bribery has two sides, the one that gives the money and the one that takes, in some cases even asks for it. But we only look at the foreigners and don't look at our side, where are the increased punishment orders for officers, MoD officials, or officials of the Indian industry? If we want less bribery, we have to remain with the strong stand against such companies, but equally put high punishments on the other side of the bribery.
Exactly, but blacklisting only targets the foreign defence company, there is little scope in blacklisting to go after the wrong-doers on the Indian side. This new policy adopted by the MoD is about go after specific wrong-doing individuals on BOTH sides, whilst in the past, more often than not, it was only the foreigners who were negatively affected.
 
India has barred Israel Military Industries, as well as five other foreign defense contractors, from bidding for defense contracts in the country for 10 years. IMI was notified yesterday of Monday's decision by the Indian Ministry of Defense and says it will appeal.

The ban followed an investigation by India's Central Bureau of Investigation. The agency, which completed its probe in 2009, concluded that there was sufficient evidence to implicate the blacklisted firms in bribing Sudipta Ghosh, the former director of Ordnance Factories, and other officers to win six contracts.

The companies were given hearings but the ministry found their explanations lacking.

The CBI recommended that action be taken against the companies. The decision is expected to affect not only IMI's activities in India but also those of other Israeli defense firms.

Although the outcome of the investigation had long been known, the Israeli defense establishment greeted the decision with surprise. Defense officials said they thought the hearing process for IMI was still continuing. Earlier yesterday IMI said it hadn't received official notice of the blacklist decision; the notice did however arrive later in the day.

"The Defense Ministry was surprised to hear of the decision by the Indian Ministry of Defense, because the hearing process for IMI against the intent of imposing sanctions on it had not been completed, and especially since IMI had very good claims against the move," the Defense Ministry said in a statement yesterday, adding that it will consult with IMI on a response.

IMI said in a statement that it did and does obey the law and will continue to work with the Indian authorities to resolve the issue. In any case, it said, it plans to appeal on the grounds that the conclusion is based on "erroneous facts" and ignores information submitted by the company.

It is thought that IMI had only begun developing its operations in the Indian market and had signed an agreement to build a factory - the agreement that triggered the investigation. Since the probe began IMI has all but frozen its activities in India; no other deals have been reported.

India is considered a key export market for Israeli defense companies. All the players, including Israel Aerospace Industries, Rafael Advanced Defense Systems and Elbit Systems, bid for Indian tenders. Some Israeli defense manufacturers are building factories in India, mainly to meet the requirements of reciprocal procurement agreements.

Industry sources outside IMI have expressed concern that IMI's presence on the blacklist could affect other Israeli firms, though there have been no signs of any recoil yet.

They also suggested that the Indian decision could hamstring Israeli government efforts to privatize IMI. Since India had been considered one of its biggest customers, the loss could diminish IMI's value.

The other companies placed on the blacklist were Singapore Technologies Kinetics, Rheinmetall Air Defence Zurich, Corporation Defence Russia, T.S. Kisan & Co. and R.K. Machine Tools. The last two are Indian companies.

Bribery allegations abound

In the past, Israel Aerospace Industries had been accused of landing jobs by bribing Indian officials. The company denied the allegations and was not part of the Central Bureau of Investigation's probe.

Nor has there been any mention of adding IAI to the blacklist. After publication of the suspicions, IAI won billions of dollars worth of deals in India.

Earlier this week it turned out that Soltam, a member of the Elbit Systems group of companies, had been blacklisted by the Philippines back in July 2011, for one year.

Soltam is well known in Israeli households for its stainless steel cookware, but in military circles it's better known for making advanced artillery systems, mortars, ammunition and auxiliary equipment. Elbit Systems bought the controlling interest in Soltam in 2010, after Soltam was accused of bribing officials in Kazakhstan. The company denied the allegations.

Soltam's client in the Philippines was the army. The allegation against it isn't corruption, it's failing to deliver two orders before an October 2010 deadline. Elbit Systems did not comment on the move by Manila.


India blacklists Israel Military Industries for 10 years - Israel News | Haaretz Daily Newspaper



Why are you posting a one year old article???

The decision has been taken back by now :hitwall:
 
If Indians took bribe why punish foreign companies for that?
Makes no sense, the rule is as dubious as Pakistani blasphemy laws!
 
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