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Increasing Muslim population dangerous for India

Family planning is against the religion so they will never accept it in public but may be in long term they will do it in individual level.

Which is what Lee Kwan Yew said long ago; to have a firm civil law that sees the needs of the country rather than pandering to each religion or community.

We had that in Uniform Civil Code. And unless we force it down so taht everyone becomes equal; Muslims, used to years of appeasement and pandering will never accept it. Though Xtians do accept it.

Muslims are extremely barbaric, once they finish with others they start attacking each other. Look around the world, muslims are killing more muslims than anyone else. They themselves are controlling their own population. Even in Pak with muslim majority there is no peace.

In the future if these regions become muslim majority we must cut them off and let it self destruct.

Destroying our nation for them is not the option. Putin's method will be the only option left.

And we need to ouster this democracy with its handicaps. Restructure governance in a sense that will suit our country.
 
On average, Muslim families in India are having like 4-6 kids per family much higher than Hindu families. Decades from now you will see provinces like West Bengal become majority Muslim. Hindus will leave West Bengal as Muslim numbers grow and flourish there both from migration and birth rate, and it will become a majority Muslim province sharing a border with Muslim majority Bangladesh.

Fertility rate among Muslims is 3.2 compared to 2.6 among Hindus. The fertility rate has actually dropped among both groups. As more and more people enter the middle class, that rate will keep dropping because at a certain point, people value quality of life over having children just for the sake of having children.
 
Fertility rate among Muslims is 3.2 compared to 2.6 among Hindus. The fertility rate has actually dropped among both groups. As more and more people enter the middle class, that rate will keep dropping because at a certain point, people value quality of life over having children just for the sake of having children.

The problem is not education or economics; it is ideology.
 
Destroying our nation for them is not the option. Putin's method will be the only option left.

And we need to ouster this democracy with its handicaps. Restructure governance in a sense that will suit our country.

I have doubts weather India can create a person like Putin. We really need a strong leader.

Fertility rate among Muslims is 3.2 compared to 2.6 among Hindus. The fertility rate has actually dropped among both groups. As more and more people enter the middle class, that rate will keep dropping because at a certain point, people value quality of life over having children just for the sake of having children.

These numbers are old. Latest info shows India has 2.3 fertility. Hindus are in the negetive with muslims much higher thus at this point muslims are increasing and hindus decreasing. But in the future even their number will drop then the population will be stable. But no idea at what % will they stabilise off. Maybe 20% may 30%
 
I have doubts weather India can create a person like Putin. We really need a strong leader.



These numbers are old. Latest info shows India has 2.3 fertility. Hindus are in the negetive with muslims much higher thus at this point muslims are increasing and hindus decreasing. But in the future even their number will drop then theopulation will be stable. But no idea at what % will they stabilise off. Maybe 20% may 30%

In time you will see such a person emerge from the same reformers who are simply setting the ground stable.
 
In time you will see such a person emerge from the same reformers who are simply setting the ground stable.

And then what? What options are there? Kill like Putin? In Chechniya we see all of Russia muslims. They are concentrated in one spot thus easy to control.what about India, here they are spread and enjoy local support from Hindus too.
 
Muslims are the pride of India.
If anything population of India should be controlled as a whole. A uniform civil code is one solution to it.
 
And then what? What options are there? Kill like Putin? In Chechniya we see all of Russia muslims. They are concentrated in one spot thus easy to control.what about India, here they are spread and enjoy local support from Hindus too.
Hindus uniting will make sure those Hindus who supported them will have no ground left and no support in future and this time there are no Mahatma Gandhis,Nehrus left to impose Secularism or their Pseudo Values upon Majority Hindus,this time the others will feel the full wrath,which was pacified by non-violent Gandhi and peace sermons given only to Hindus.
If situations like those arise then people will themselves do the action and then Secularism or Democracy won't be able to stop it,It is better the Muslims start to realize their hopes of Out-breeding India is nothing but a wet dream and will always remain forever.Why do you need to kill them? Simply convert them,you can learn a lot from their Islamic conquests and how they converted Native populations through Sword and many means.Russia (Putin),Israel(Gaza)China (Xinjiang) ,Reconquista(Andalusia) have simply taken out a page out of their history book and implemented it with success,these are working models.

Pakistanis here gloating Civil War and end of India, should ask this question, will Pakistan or for that matter the present Islamic world will remain in future or lie in shambles?
 
And then what? What options are there? Kill like Putin? In Chechniya we see all of Russia muslims. They are concentrated in one spot thus easy to control.what about India, here they are spread and enjoy local support from Hindus too.

Yeah well many political parties will want the growing Muslim vote bank so you can expect more political representation for Muslims across India. Especially after decades from now when provinces like West Bengal and possibly Bihar become majority Muslim through migration and high Muslim birth rate and combine that with Hindus moving out of those provinces to live elsewhere in India.
 
On average, Muslim families in India are having like 4-6 kids per family much higher than Hindu families. Decades from now you will see provinces like West Bengal become majority Muslim. Hindus will leave West Bengal as Muslim numbers grow and flourish there both from migration and birth rate, and it will become a majority Muslim province sharing a border with Muslim majority Bangladesh.
in my own unscintific observation, muslim birth rate is way way less than last generation... 1 chacha in our vilage had son around same time as his eldest son...he got 10 kids last time I counted.. am sure chachi is beyond the child bearing age.
none of his children have more than 2/3 kids... thats marginally more than hindus.
 
These population statistics are just prediction and at best guesses. The Malthusian theory of population boom actually ended as population bust for Europe and Americas. Pakistan will have largest Muslim country by population as Indian Muslim birthrate may drop due to higher employment and economic opportunities only if Hindutva lunatics instead of persecuting Muslims provide them with education and jobs. The Indian Muslims on average in India has only more child than the Hindus. While the Hindus and Sikhs especially in northern states practice female infanticide that keeps their birth rate low. While the Hindus in Uttar Pradesh and Bihar has nearly the same birth rate as Pakistan.
 
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its economics.. rich upper class muslims have fewer kids in general.

Really? Then why are developed countries predicting a stunning rise in islamic population? They have some very prosperous muslim immigrants there. Please don't tell me rampant conversion; it is more to do with having multiple partners and from them many kids..
 
Really? Then why are developed countries predicting a stunning rise in islamic population? They have some very prosperous muslim immigrants there. Please don't tell me rampant conversion; it is more to do with having multiple partners and from them many kids..

Lets assume that I move to a small town in Canada and I am the only Pakistani Muslim in that town. The headline screams "100% of increase of Muslims". Then I get married and my wife comes to the town. The new headline "50% increase in Muslim population". After a year I have a baby then it will cause another headline "33% increase in Muslim population". These are small number of immigrants and people manipulate percentages to create fear and xenophobia. In Canada, many Muslims are coming from several Muslim countries with high fertility and like all immigrants take a decade or generation to adopt to the Canadian norms of having fewer number of children.
 
Lets assume that I move to a small town in Canada and I am the only Pakistani Muslim in that town. The headline screams "100% of increase of Muslims". Then I get married and my wife comes to the town. The new headline "50% increase in Muslim population". After a year I have a baby then it will cause another headline "33% increase in Muslim population". These are small number of immigrants and people manipulate percentages to create fear and xenophobia. In Canada, many Muslims are coming from several Muslim countries with high fertility and like all immigrants take a decade or generation to adopt to the Canadian norms of having fewer number of children.


We're not talking about immigrants here, we are talking about native Muslim people of India. They have a significantly higher birth rate than Hindus and other minority groups. So your comparison is invalid. Not to mention Muslim migration into India is also growing primarily from Bangladesh into provinces like West Bengal and Bihar and other parts of India.
 

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