Imran-Imran vs. Abdullah-Abdullah vs. Qadri-Qadri--- How to destroy an election system

[Jazzbot]

you are too sincere, too bhola bhola.
towards PTI

In the end it is just a political party out to get seats by hook or crook like any other.

And you're trying to act super smart.

Don't you feel ashamed that a person with fake mandate is representing you all over the world? Today we are in such a mess that the person who robs most votes gets the highest office in the country. This is the question for our future generations. We need to completely uproot this current corrupt electoral system and bring a new, modern and robust electoral system. A system that will throw out more than half of our current political elite (PTI included) in strict filtering. A system at which everyone can trust and everyone can check where his / her vote has gone.

Unless this is done, these Sharif, bhutto / zadari families will keep ruling and ruining this country for endless years to come and people like you will keep comparing Imran Khan with every tom, dick or harry, just for the sake of it.

I hate TuQ and I disagree with a lot of stuff which IK says, but their PoV towards this system is right, our system is corrupt to the core and we must reform it completely. Every sane Pakistani won't argue with this.

 

[mr42O]

Dont know to cry or laugh....... or say what i really want to say.

U dumba*** election system is destroyed when u rigg election and manipulate results. ppl vote for X but Y get elected. Kera election tee kera system. Thats what Imran Khan is fighting against and all of them who benefits by this system are standing against him.Reason is very simple this system give them power to misuses for own gain. Be it politicians media judges or army. And what Pakistan is today tells us how system has failed and ppl are trying to save this corrupt system

 

[Dubious]

So asking for votes verification for identification and rectification of electoral errors is toppling election system? Asking for election reforms, electronic voting and induction of EVM is also toppling election system? Asking for right to vote for overseas Pakistanis is also toppling election system?

PML-N has 2/3 majority in National Assembly, why don't they make amendment in law and remove the right of votes recount completely and stop this mess once and for all? Why there is this law, when no one can get its demand of votes verification entertained at all?

And why collecting thumb impressions during elections when no one can verify in case of any doubts in election results, why wasting so much money on stamps, inks, counter foils and all that when they are actually just show pieces and are of no use once the election results are announced?

Why we even have elections, we should instead save the money and do a small rigging competition at one place in a fake voting, the one who does most rigging in that voting should be declared Prime Minister of Pakistan for full 5 years without any opposition so he can literally rule the country like a king with no one there to question him.

I never understood the unghutha chap! I mean I am sure there are illiterates in USA too...do they blindly put their thumb print on anything?
I mean whats the use when we dont really have people sitting there checking thumb prints to allow only 1 thumb print per vote or something....

It would have made sense were it electronic and the computer could tap into the data base and compare how many are voting using the same thumb print...

I am not sure what is wrong with Pakistani awaam...Apparently demanding for rights to improve a system is a waste of time...Now I get what @xyxmt when he said people dont feel the need to improve something (to him it was about the drainage system) but it seems like Pakistanis are against improving anything at all! Tableedi anay hi nai daytay!

Dont know to cry or laugh....... or say what i really want to say.

U dumba*** election system is destroyed when u rigg election and manipulate results. ppl vote for X but Y get elected. Kera election tee kera system. Thats what Imran Khan is fighting against and all of them who benefits by this system are standing against him.Reason is very simple this system give them power to misuses for own gain. Be it politicians media judges or army. And what Pakistan is today tells us how system has failed and ppl are trying to save this corrupt system

Fighting for the rights of Pakistani people is not in their bones mate! They feel ashamed when someone fights for their rights....So ashamed they make a mockery out of the person!

They are fine living under a rule of a person who openly is sending all business abroad (not benefiting the Pakistani community itself)...

What I dont get is why were there no tender competition...You dont give out contracts to people you want to (thats favouratism or even corruption)...there should be fair competition for tenders....But I guess unfairness ki adat hai logon ko!

 

[Jazzbot]

I never understood the unghutha chap! I mean I am sure there are illiterates in USA too...do they blindly put their thumb print on anything?
I mean whats the use when we dont really have people sitting there checking thumb prints to allow only 1 thumb print per vote or something....

It would have made sense were it electronic and the computer could tap into the data base and compare how many are voting using the same thumb print...

I am not sure what is wrong with Pakistani awaam...Apparently demanding for rights to improve a system is a waste of time...Now I get what @xyxmt when he said people dont feel the need to improve something (to him it was about the drainage system) but it seems like Pakistanis are against improving anything at all! Tableedi anay hi nai daytay!


Fighting for the rights of Pakistani people is not in their bones mate! They feel ashamed when someone fights for their rights....So ashamed they make a mockery out of the person!

They are fine living under a rule of a person who openly is sending all business abroad (not benefiting the Pakistani community itself)...

What I dont get is why were there no tender competition...You dont give out contracts to people you want to (thats favouratism or even corruption)...there should be fair competition for tenders....But I guess unfairness ki adat hai logon ko!

Last I checked, a person in Karachi casted some freaking 350+ votes in one constituency. This tells whole story about about electoral system.

And yes, most of our public is like what you've said, my signature sums it up completely.

 

[Jazzbot]

Dont know to cry or laugh....... or say what i really want to say.

U dumba*** election system is destroyed when u rigg election and manipulate results. ppl vote for X but Y get elected. Kera election tee kera system. Thats what Imran Khan is fighting against and all of them who benefits by this system are standing against him.Reason is very simple this system give them power to misuses for own gain. Be it politicians media judges or army. And what Pakistan is today tells us how system has failed and ppl are trying to save this corrupt system

Like I've said before, if we aren't gonna reform our election system then we should completely remove this election system and hold an "All Pakistan Rigging Competition" after every 5 years. The party that does most rigging should form govt for full 5 years. Problem solved. Right @FaujHistorian ??

 

[FaujHistorian]

Like I've said before, if we aren't gonna reform our election system then we should completely remove this election system and hold an "All Pakistan Rigging Competition" after every 5 years. The party that does most rigging should form govt for full 5 years. Problem solved. Right @FaujHistorian ??

As I said in the other thread

So you believe in a system which only promotes the looters, bank defaulters and money launderers and protects their interests too! This is what this election will be doing for next four years until PPP takes over for the next 5, if PTI call to reform the system is taken out of contention.

I sincerely believe that PTI has my vote and golden chance to win NA next time in 2018.

Not on IK's childish slogans. No!

Based on KPK CM's statesmanship.

KPK is a test case for true Insafians to shine if they can get 5 years.

But you won't understand.

Most of the PTIesn have changed the party to a group of shreiking little kids.

While the nation wants them to be KPK CM like statesmen.

Pakistani awam are desperately looking for development in KPK, Sindh, and Balochistan

IK is giving them slogan $hit


Hope you get it this time.

 

[Dubious]

Not on IK's childish slogans. No!

Most of the PTIesn have changed the party to a group of shreiking little kids.

Pry do tell me how else does one bring change in a country full of ignorance? From educational ignorance to religious ignorance...Do tell me how do you get heard?

Now if IK doesnt stand up for the rights of the few who voted for him ...the same voters who voted for him to bring change then he would not deserve those votes...The very reason people like him is coz he is trying...Haathoun mein chudriyan nai pehn kay bhatha IK!

He could have easily ignored the right of every damn citizen who voted for him from Punjab to Sindh...and just concentrated on KPK....totally ignoring our support on change!

His slogan is to bring change and he is living up to it!

 

[gangsta_rap]

I love how faujhistorion conviniently simplifies PTI's arguments by calling it 'childish shreiks'.

The issue of rigging is a fundemental trial in our country's path to a proper democracy.

Stay in that shell and call PTI's stance on rigging what ever you want, IK's "neeyat" is enough for me to be confident in PTI

 

[FaujHistorian]

Pry do tell me how else does one bring change in a country full of ignorance? From educational ignorance to religious ignorance...Do tell me how do you get heard?

Now if IK doesnt stand up for the rights of the few who voted for him ...the same voters who voted for him to bring change then he would not deserve those votes...The very reason people like him is coz he is trying...Haathoun mein chudriyan nai pehn kay bhatha IK!

He could have easily ignored the right of every damn citizen who voted for him from Punjab to Sindh...and just concentrated on KPK....totally ignoring our support on change!

His slogan is to bring change and he is living up to it!

Change was a slogan before 2013

Change needs action in KPK after 2013.

Hope you understand now.


As a student, you can say you will change your grades from C to A when you go to college.

But when you ARE in college, then people will laugh at you if you go around chanting change

Once you are in college, you gotta work on showing A grade. not talk about it.

 

[gangsta_rap]

Change was a slogan before 2013

Change needs action in KPK after 2013.

Hope you understand now.


As a student, you can say you will change your grades from C to A when you go to college.

But when you ARE in college, then people will laugh at you if you go around chanting change

One you are in college, you gotta work on showing A grade. not talk about it.

Your example makes the assumption that the college is ideal/perfect.

Look at our electoral system and compare it with your ideal college

 

[cleverrider]

Last I checked, a person in Karachi casted some freaking 350+ votes in one constituency. This tells whole story about about electoral system.

And yes, most of our public is like what you've said, my signature sums it up completely.

I used to kinda read this Geezer posts (Most of the time I only read on this forum) but now I dont bother. He acts like an emotional Kid- Different mood swings Reflects his posts. Also tries very hard to be "logical" "knowledgeable"

You know what he reminds me off, a girl on her period. @FaujHistorian no offense bro. (Just my observation/opinion)

 

[Dubious]

I used to kinda read this Geezer posts (Most of the time I only read on this forum) but now I dont bother. He acts like an emotional Kid- Different mood swings Reflects his posts. Also tries very hard to be "logical" "knowledgeable"

You know what he reminds me off, a girl on her period. @FaujHistorian no offense bro. (Just my observation/opinion)

reported for personal attack on a poster...

 

[cleverrider]

reported for personal attack on a poster...

Stop with Cheer-leading, Its just an opinion with no wrong intentions. I am straightforward like it or not.

 

[Dubious]

Change was a slogan before 2013

Change needs action in KPK after 2013.

Hope you understand now.


As a student, you can say you will change your grades from C to A when you go to college.

But when you ARE in college, then people will laugh at you if you go around chanting change

One you are in college, you gotta work on showing A grade. not talk about it.

That is a weird example...If you want to talk about collage....You should talk about the country...He got into the "collage" and was given "choice of the teacher" which field to major in and asked to go score in it...a field with no teacher to teach you, broken classroom to learn in, no resources and then expect you to only score A


Really how was your hypothesis supposed to work?

If you count him as a student then NS is also another student who got into the collage but instead of learning and improving got an air conditioned office and is now the principal and instead of I dont know leaning on discipline, he runs a gangster squad which beats up anyone who wants to demand a recheck of how he became the principal? So what are the citizens in this case? Books? Well if that is the case, we have soo many books in the collage but not 1 to look after them, many are torn into pieces, many vandalized and others buried in dust...

What about the elites: Only the books which are ultra expensive are kept out for show but none of the subjects uses that book ...coz it is regarding a subject that is not even taught in the collage!


How far do you want to stretch this analogy?

Stop with Cheer-leading, Its just an opinion with no wrong intentions. I am straightforward like it or not.

you are not above the rules of the forum which say no name calling....you cant counter leave simple! No need to mock...BTW, reported again ...have a nice day!

 

[Psycho Pakistani]

As you all know, our small small really small but troubled neighbor is crawling out of long long long war.

One way was to setup a system to elect new government.

But the fragile system seems like ready to fall apart.

Why?

One of their big leaders Abdullah-Abduallah is doing what our Uturn-Uturn here in Pakistan.

There is a point when the losing side must move on to live another day, to fight a fight 5 years later.

But small leaders who do not care about their country and their nation, cannot move on, and thus end up cutting the same branch on which their big @rse is resting.

So sad to see what Abdullah-Abdullah is doing in Afghanistan.

so sad to see what Imran-Imran is doing in Pakistan.

There is no comparsion between the two cases, you are mixing apples with oranges. Abdullah x 2 has seen good and worse of afghanistan and he is the undisputed leader of non-pasthuns (who make up more than 60 % of that country) and is justified of vote fraud that took place in pashtun dominated eastern provinces by Karzai adiminstration to help Ghani a fellow pashtun to win by fraud.
Abdullah abdullah is a war hardened guy, he has fought against Russians during 80s and against pashtun talibans in 90s whereas Ghani is an imported stooge from air-conditioned rooms of World bank like Shortcut aziz. And imran khan is a cricketer turned politican who remained failure for 15 years until his daddy Pasha helped him get momentum back in PPP tenure. His IQ level is 10 times lower than Abdullah x 2, I would say Gullu khan's IQ level is lower than even an average uneducated villager in pakistan because they make more sense than this insane cricketer.