IMRAN ACCEPTS dr,qadri dharna succsesfull!

[batmannow]

afraid pmln trying to discredit long march!

 

[batmannow]

@<u><a href="http://www.defence.pk/forums/member.php?u=2839" target="_blank">BATMAN</a></u>

What does this all have to do with PML-N and their mandate ? This is all personal stuff and besides Punjab is the best province in terms of NO Terrorism. Haven't you heard, the CM has taken action by all means to charge him ? Let me ask you this. Monis Elahi was involved in mega corruption and by having a mafia group. Did Pervaiz Elahi, the CM back then do anything ? After all he has a relationship with him also, doesn't he ? Instead what you saw was the person fleeing to another country when the supreme court decided it would be the one to take him on.

Live example of PMLN Good Governance. Rohail Asghar (PMLN) Dakho or Sharm Karo

 

[Edevelop]

personal stuff?
sharif family is public property now, which they are using with thier governing power, to just collect some free bread & cake?
& you are painting them , like super leaders & last hope of pakistan?
come on?

Please provide details to back your argument. Bashing has become a habit of yours on this forum.

Also i never understood what you want. No to PML-N, PML-Q, PTI, Qadri, MQM, PPP, ANP.... who on earth is left ?

 

[batmannow]

Please provide details to back your argument. Bashing has become a habit of yours on this forum.

Also i never understood what you want. No to PML-N, PML-Q, PTI, Qadri, MQM, PPP, ANP.... who on earth is left ?

i am a batman, i dont follow others, but i always watch gotham city!
well you can see the video which is posted in above post, a great example within lahore of PMLN Good Governance. Rohail Asghar (PMLN)?
i support change, anyone, every one !

 

[pk_baloch]

qadri was a drama nothing else.....

 

[batmannow]

 

[batmannow]

qadri was a drama nothing else.....

 

[batmannow]

 

[batmannow]

The reality is that the benefits of March goes to PTI, because the candidates of PTI are eligible under the Article 62 and 63 of the Constitution. other political parties in Pakistan do not have candidates whom are eligible under these Articles. second benefit is that most of the people of Pakistan before this March do not know about these Articles as they have known today and now the public pressure will build on Government and other parties

 

[Rusty]

Lets talk this out professionally. Its funny to see you indulge Imran Khan's qualities with Hitler. The first thing you should write in your history book is the fact that Hitler was a dictator and not democratic. PTI's change is not so for change as they added politicians from all over the place and that to adding those whom were previously in government.

PML-N convinces me because they have 'done well over well said.' As i previously mentioned, if there is anyone positive in the country that is Punjab. I ask you to visit there so you see people as compared to other provinces. They are more educated and economically forecasting growth. Their model is needed across all over Pakistan.

Load shedding is not in their control. You should know very well that it is the federal government who is responsible. The Kalabagh Dam's contruction is opposed, Karachi is the number one city that steals country's electricity, Rental schemes by Rental Raja, blocking investments from Iran and Turkey ??? Similarly, gas is getting used up since it was Musharraf's policies to use it in cars and and kitchens. The utmost you can do is use Diesel, add solar energy, etc which the Punjab government has been trying its best in.

Remember, Baluchistan is the forgotten province in our country but at the same time there was that D head provincial government, who made it even worse. Unlike Imran Khan giving hopes, the Punjab government have been sending their doctors, agricultural products and building education institutes such as Danish schools etc free of cost. Heck Shahbaz Sharif went on providing free scholarships also. Clearly, they are not in federal government so you tell me if they are they responsible ? Remember, all those leaders, Mahmood Khan Achakzai, Talal Bugti are in alliance with PML-N. Given the opportunity, they will surely bring change.

Don't make me talk about India. Does PML-N vist there or PTI ? As far as one can see Imran Khan has plans to open trade with them, which in my opinion is the biggest suicide due to a huge difference in market size. Furthermore, he has a wish that will be seen Indians and Pakistanis crossing the border with a touch of a card. Tell me would you want that ? Here comes the interesting part. Ending terrorism is also a plan. No doubt everyone wants to end that but would it make sense for the Hindustan regime who constantly funds and arms TTP ? You have seen the so called peace dialoge process with them by observing our soldiers getting killed. Remember the nuclear program days and when we were sanctioned. PML-N pulled its potential impacts off nicely and during the period we were on par with India's economy. Most of the problems today are linked to Musharraf, which Imran Khan supported at one stage. It is not me, but you who has a low IQ.

Now I understand that low IQ people don't understand what a metaphor is so hopefully this will help

Okay so lets say your logic is correct, you cannot bring change with old people
then according to this, Islam has failed.
What did the prophet do after he captured Mecca?
Did he say "everyone who opposed me is now barred from office" ?
Did he tell Khalid Ibn Walid "you are one of the greatest military minds in our generation, you even defeated the forces of Islam so you cannot join my government" ?
Of course not, he took all these old people who had talent and used them wisely
Now I already know that low IQ people will say "DERRRR ARE YOU SAYING IMRAN KHAN IS THE PROPHET"
If you think that is what I am saying then there is no hope for you, go back to your barn and live the rest of your life there.
The second point is that, you said old people are bad....but guess what? PMLN IS ALL OLD PEOPLE.
So why is old people bad in PTI, which only had a few old guys really (I can name 3 in the top leadership) but a party that is almost 100% old guys good?

Saying that Punjab is run better than other provinces in Pakistan is like saying "I would rather get brain cancer than skin cancer because it hurts less"
If you compare Punjab government to a government in Europe, AMerica, even Korea or Japan, it is 100% failure. Anyone can build a road, but what about building schools and institutions?
They tried it with the Danish schools and guess what happened? it failed miserably.

Wrong, Load shedding is in their control, the Central government has given the provinces the power to generate their own electricity, and since that time PMLN had done NOTHING to generate power.

And all these things you are talking about are just gimics. Tell me, can a poor person in Punjab go to a doctor for free? can their kids go to school for free? If Punjab can't even take care of it's poor then why is it sending these people to other provinces?
Just gimics.

Why not talk about India? Imran Khan just talks about trade, your ganja will make it that Pakistan is absorbed by them due to bad leadership and destruction of Pakistan.
Yes, I want Pakistan and India to have good relations, I want them to come to Pakistan and spend their money, I want Pakistanis to be able to go to India and visit their relatives and see their glorious history. I want Pakistan to reduce Military spendatures and spend that money on Schools and Hospitals. And most of all, I want Ganja to bring back his looted money and face trial for pillaging the country.

So at the end of the day all you have said it "I don't support IK because he has a few old guys, but I support a party that is 100% old guys. I support a party that is proven corrupt and can't even provide for it's people but they are doing better than other provinces who are even worse than them. I don't support change or improvement because India might be able to trade with Pakistan"

Like I said, it's best to go back in your barn and live quietly as the rest of Pakistan want change, good governance and no corruption.

 

[Edevelop]

Now I understand that low IQ people don't understand what a metaphor is so hopefully this will help

Okay so lets say your logic is correct, you cannot bring change with old people
then according to this, Islam has failed.
What did the prophet do after he captured Mecca?
Did he say "everyone who opposed me is now barred from office" ?
Did he tell Khalid Ibn Walid "you are one of the greatest military minds in our generation, you even defeated the forces of Islam so you cannot join my government" ?
Of course not, he took all these old people who had talent and used them wisely
Now I already know that low IQ people will say "DERRRR ARE YOU SAYING IMRAN KHAN IS THE PROPHET"
If you think that is what I am saying then there is no hope for you, go back to your barn and live the rest of your life there.
The second point is that, you said old people are bad....but guess what? PMLN IS ALL OLD PEOPLE.
So why is old people bad in PTI, which only had a few old guys really (I can name 3 in the top leadership) but a party that is almost 100% old guys good?

Saying that Punjab is run better than other provinces in Pakistan is like saying "I would rather get brain cancer than skin cancer because it hurts less"
If you compare Punjab government to a government in Europe, AMerica, even Korea or Japan, it is 100% failure. Anyone can build a road, but what about building schools and institutions?
They tried it with the Danish schools and guess what happened? it failed miserably.

Wrong, Load shedding is in their control, the Central government has given the provinces the power to generate their own electricity, and since that time PMLN had done NOTHING to generate power.

And all these things you are talking about are just gimics. Tell me, can a poor person in Punjab go to a doctor for free? can their kids go to school for free? If Punjab can't even take care of it's poor then why is it sending these people to other provinces?
Just gimics.

Why not talk about India? Imran Khan just talks about trade, your ganja will make it that Pakistan is absorbed by them due to bad leadership and destruction of Pakistan.
Yes, I want Pakistan and India to have good relations, I want them to come to Pakistan and spend their money, I want Pakistanis to be able to go to India and visit their relatives and see their glorious history. I want Pakistan to reduce Military spendatures and spend that money on Schools and Hospitals. And most of all, I want Ganja to bring back his looted money and face trial for pillaging the country.

So at the end of the day all you have said it "I don't support IK because he has a few old guys, but I support a party that is 100% old guys. I support a party that is proven corrupt and can't even provide for it's people but they are doing better than other provinces who are even worse than them. I don't support change or improvement because India might be able to trade with Pakistan"

Like I said, it's best to go back in your barn and live quietly as the rest of Pakistan want change, good governance and no corruption.

You are free and you have the right to express your opinion therefore i will never force you to agree with me. However let me just point out some things, starting from international relations.

I'm a Kashmiri, a patriotic one, whose family has seen a brutal past. Not to be rude to those who want to visit India, what was our purpose to create this land of the pure ? Just to remind you, this is not only my interest but a national one. We have not pulled our forces out or brought change in our foreign policy. We should never, and i mean it, have good relations with India until they accept these following conditions. 1) Accept they committed genocide and 2) Solve disputed territories with Pakistan. You my friend don't seem like you know much about our neighbour's policies. While they are accepting our singers and players in their country for so called 'aman ki asha', they are meddling in our Western border by sending forces to Afghanistan destabilizing Baluchistan and arming TTP. This is not a joke. Where is our unity and sense of national pride ? Under Nawaz Sharif, we were in direct competition in everything, from cricket to military to economy.

Now lets get into our internal affairs.

In my view, PTI is a party that is confusing its people. The words 'Tsunami' , 'Inqalab' are words interchangeably used. What is change ? How do you describe it ? Certainly its not a revolution. It has no qualities like the French or the Iranian one that had come unknown and quite rapidly.

Punjab is not Europe, America, Korea or Japan. it is part of a developing country that is making its mark through evolution. I will get convinced if ANY PROVINCE shows it can do what PML-N have done. Still waiting for that will....
Shahbaz Sharif is bloody serious when someone talks about corruption against him. He has demanded NAB to search him up. Would any political leader today ever to anything that brave ?

Punjab is taking care of its poor very well. I know someone who manages gardens at Punjab University and i asked him if inflation has impacted his life. This is what he told me. Yes inflation increased but our salaries have been quadrupled. With 15,000 Rupees he takes care of his family and upon going back to village, people greet him as a 'Chaudhry" even though he is not one. Not to mention, he owns 2 Cell Phones and a Bicycle personally and the government provides him with an additional 2,000 Rupees for Health Care. Lahore is a city of 10 million people and the people are eating and drinking very well. I was under the impression like yours but upon experiencing life in reality makes a huge difference.

 

[batmannow]

You are free and you have the right to express your opinion therefore i will never force you to agree with me. However let me just point out some things, starting from international relations.

I'm a Kashmiri, a patriotic one, whose family has seen a brutal past. Not to be rude to those who want to visit India, what was our purpose to create this land of the pure ? Just to remind you, this is not only my interest but a national one. We have not pulled our forces out or brought change in our foreign policy. We should never, and i mean it, have good relations with India until they accept these following conditions. 1) Accept they committed genocide and 2) Solve disputed territories with Pakistan. You my friend don't seem like you know much about our neighbour's policies. While they are accepting our singers and players in their country for so called 'aman ki asha', they are meddling in our Western border by sending forces to Afghanistan destabilizing Baluchistan and arming TTP. This is not a joke. Where is our unity and sense of national pride ? Under Nawaz Sharif, we were in direct competition in everything, from cricket to military to economy.

Now lets get into our internal affairs.

In my view, PTI is a party that is confusing its people. The words 'Tsunami' , 'Inqalab' are words interchangeably used. What is change ? How do you describe it ? Certainly its not a revolution. It has no qualities like the French or the Iranian one that had come unknown and quite rapidly.

Punjab is not Europe, America, Korea or Japan. it is part of a developing country that is making its mark through evolution. I will get convinced if ANY PROVINCE shows it can do what PML-N have done. Still waiting for that will....
Shahbaz Sharif is bloody serious when someone talks about corruption against him. He has demanded NAB to search him up. Would any political leader today ever to anything that brave ?

Punjab is taking care of its poor very well. I know someone who manages gardens at Punjab University and i asked him if inflation has impacted his life. This is what he told me. Yes inflation increased but our salaries have been quadrupled. With 15,000 Rupees he takes care of his family and upon going back to village, people greet him as a 'Chaudhry" even though he is not one. Not to mention, he owns 2 Cell Phones and a Bicycle personally and the government provides him with an additional 2,000 Rupees for Health Care. Lahore is a city of 10 million people and the people are eating and drinking very well. I was under the impression like yours but upon experiencing life in reality makes a huge difference.

In the end , ur arguments starts from PMLn punjab govt is best from the rest of the worst provancial govts rulling pakistan?lol
How about comparing CH.pervaiz ilahi,s provancial govt At the times of Musharaf?
Was there any power crisess,load shadings, gas shadings,industrial cities of fAislabad ,guranwala,sailkot were growing or not?
How many villages got light in the times of pervaiz ilahi & shahbaz?
& in the end , how many poor bakrey peoples got beaten up, by the families of pervaiz ilahi?
I am certnly not convincing you for anything, bt just you to have free will & free thinking!
That's all it matters?
Well , I do agree that in 90s, nawaz sharif was better admistrator thn BB, he was progressive in his times, & brought new trends in pakistan, bt later he also became one of them?
U & me we both r pakistanis, we can still differ on everything bt at the same time we still can share same bread, that's the sprit I always looking for?
& I want to support new leadership evn they aren't seem, so great with their CVs,bt still if they are commited to change still, they are better thn those old hourses, who still r bzy buying & selling lotas for their aglli bari?

 

[Edevelop]

In the end , ur arguments starts from PMLn punjab govt is best from the rest of the worst provancial govts rulling pakistan?lol
How about comparing CH.pervaiz ilahi,s provancial govt At the times of Musharaf?
Was there any power crisess,load shadings, gas shadings,industrial cities of fAislabad ,guranwala,sailkot were growing or not?
How many villages got light in the times of pervaiz ilahi & shahbaz?
& in the end , how many poor bakrey peoples got beaten up, by the families of pervaiz ilahi?
I am certnly not convincing you for anything, bt just you to have free will & free thinking!
That's all it matters?
Well , I do agree that in 90s, nawaz sharif was better admistrator thn BB, he was progressive in his times, & brought new trends in pakistan, bt later he also became one of them?
U & me we both r pakistanis, we can still differ on everything bt at the same time we still can share same bread, that's the sprit I always looking for?
& I want to support new leadership evn they aren't seem, so great with their CVs,bt still if they are commited to change still, they are better thn those old hourses, who still r bzy buying & selling lotas for their aglli bari?

Pervaiz Elahi was not a bad CM and i'm not denying the fact that he started developing small villages. However, Shahbaz Sharif has gone one step further. Today the administration is very good and money has been well allocated in other areas of the province. Also investments have been made by countries whom we can trust. In today's Pakistan no one would come. Convincing Turkey and Germany to improve our infrastructure is an achievement.

Now coming to load shedding. It has always been a problem all over Pakistan and its not something new. Musharraf had introduced CNG in cars and this is the biggest reason why we are facing Gas shortages today. As far as electricity is concerned, that is the federal government's responsibly. Believe me, i met a person from Gujranwala who made hoodies but due to shedding, his textile industry fired people, including him. When asked who he blames, he said the federal government's rental raja.

 

[Tiger Awan]

In the end , ur arguments starts from PMLn punjab govt is best from the rest of the worst provancial govts rulling pakistan?lol
How about comparing CH.pervaiz ilahi,s provancial govt At the times of Musharaf?
Was there any power crisess,load shadings, gas shadings,industrial cities of fAislabad ,guranwala,sailkot were growing or not?
How many villages got light in the times of pervaiz ilahi & shahbaz?
& in the end , how many poor bakrey peoples got beaten up, by the families of pervaiz ilahi?
I am certnly not convincing you for anything, bt just you to have free will & free thinking!
That's all it matters?
Well , I do agree that in 90s, nawaz sharif was better admistrator thn BB, he was progressive in his times, & brought new trends in pakistan, bt later he also became one of them?
U & me we both r pakistanis, we can still differ on everything bt at the same time we still can share same bread, that's the sprit I always looking for?
& I want to support new leadership evn they aren't seem, so great with their CVs,bt still if they are commited to change still, they are better thn those old hourses, who still r bzy buying & selling lotas for their aglli bari?

Load shedding is a fedral subject bro

Bakery boy case was taken to the courts,

Now let me tell you another story.

You remember when mush aircraft was targeted by an anti aircraft gun??? The next day a shop keeper of Raja Bazar (one of the main market of Rawalpindi ) was talking to his friend, he was not a fan of mush so he was saying things like "buhut acha hoa, Allah karta jahaz taba ho jata, jan choot jati is sey hamari" and you know what some people came and took him, for next one month no one saw him, police was also unable to help the family

He was actually taken by the security agencies and beaten badly, after one month when they were sure that he is just a hater and not a terrorist they released him and he was so weak when they released him

 

[tarrar]

In the end , ur arguments starts from PMLn punjab govt is best from the rest of the worst provancial govts rulling pakistan?lol
How about comparing CH.pervaiz ilahi,s provancial govt At the times of Musharaf?
Was there any power crisess,load shadings, gas shadings,industrial cities of fAislabad ,guranwala,sailkot were growing or not?
How many villages got light in the times of pervaiz ilahi & shahbaz?
& in the end , how many poor bakrey peoples got beaten up, by the families of pervaiz ilahi?
I am certnly not convincing you for anything, bt just you to have free will & free thinking!
That's all it matters?
Well , I do agree that in 90s, nawaz sharif was better admistrator thn BB, he was progressive in his times, & brought new trends in pakistan, bt later he also became one of them?
U & me we both r pakistanis, we can still differ on everything bt at the same time we still can share same bread, that's the sprit I always looking for?
& I want to support new leadership evn they aren't seem, so great with their CVs,bt still if they are commited to change still, they are better thn those old hourses, who still r bzy buying & selling lotas for their aglli bari?

Bat's these people will not understand. PML-N is still getting panic attacks after the long march & now PML-N elite members are leaving.

PTI should had joined Dr. Tahir&#8217;s march then the situation would had been totally different & I believe the movement would had gotten even more stronger & a 100% threat to the corrupt Govt. & corrupt allies but IK was stupid & he followed Shah Mahmoods corrupt advise not to join the march & today he is regretting it.