If the whole world unites, they cannot defeat a nation that believes in Allah (SWT)

[Muhammed45]

@mohsen @2800 @Fafnir @B@KH @BHarwana @Mini Tank

 

[Muhammed45]

http://english.khamenei.ir/news/525...ow-negotiations-on-its-defensive-capabilities

 

[Jf Thunder]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Baghdad_(1258)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defeat_and_dissolution_of_the_Ottoman_Empire


sad...........

 

[Muhammed45]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Baghdad_(1258)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defeat_and_dissolution_of_the_Ottoman_Empire


sad...........

Ottomans were ruthless and corrupt, the same idea goes to final rulers of Safavids. Ottomans unfairly massacred Christians of Eastern-EU too.

No offense to pro-Ottoman folks. I am not happy of their fall, it was the last shield, although a corrupt kingdom

 

[Signalian]

Why portray one side of the story !

Iran was also supplied weapons by following countries:

1. USA/Israel (Read: Iran-Contra affair)
2. China
3. Syria
4. North Korea
5. Libya
6. Soviet Union
7. Yugoslavia
8. Portugal

 

[ValerioAurelius]

@mohsen @2800 @Fafnir @B@KH @BHarwana @Mini Tank

I dont see the problem. You sayyou dont negotiate, we say we harden sanctions. Or do you want force us to trade with you?

Even with partly lifted sanctions you have mass demonstrations because many people live below poverty line.

Also can you explain to me why so much of your religious leaders are billionaires now?

 

[Muhammed45]

I dont see the problem. You sayyou dont negotiate, we say we harden sanctions. Or do you want force us to trade with you?

Only our corrupt politicians are willing for negotiations with your kind. Iranian people and their patriots have never asked government to sell the valuable oil to European corrupt countries. EU is corrupt and unfortunately our corrypt politicians have close relations with your countries. When you have no idea about me, don't you accuse me of having intentions to trade with EU countries, it's the last thing that i may think of, trading with EU is absolutely against Iran's long term national benefits.

Even with partly lifted sanctions you have mass demonstrations because many people live below poverty line.

Oh, and we don't have demonstrations in Italy. hahhah Berlosconi with a new girl???

Also can you explain to me why so much of your religious leaders are billionaires now?

The one from country of mafia should be the last person on this earth to teach me about corruption.

Why portray one side of the story !

Iran was also supplied weapons by following countries:

1. USA/Israel (Read: Iran-Contra affair)
2. China
3. Syria
4. North Korea
5. Libya
6. Soviet Union
7. Yugoslavia
8. Portugal

Before revolution. Update yourself man, your thoughts belongs to 4 decades ago

 

[Signalian]

Before revolution. Update yourself man, your thoughts belongs to 4 decades ago

We are talking about the war 1980-1988 right ? So, the weapon supply from these countries was given during 1980-1988.

Please research and update yourself. Let me give you some help regarding USA and Israel assistance to Iran, the dates for contra affair are 1985-1987. Now go and read.

 

[mike2000 is back]

lol

We are talking about the war 1980-1988 right ? So, the weapon supply from these countries was given during 1980-1988.

Please research and update yourself. Let me give you some help regarding USA and Israel assistance to Iran, the dates for contra affair are 1985-1987. Now go and read.

That's a well known issue.
moreover, I don't even understand what the OP is on about. Many countries that believe in Allah have been defeated so many times throughout history. I don't see the link between a country that believes in Allah and losing/winning a war. The two are not related, so why bring GOD into play here?

 

[raptor22]

Why portray one side of the story !

Iran was also supplied weapons by following countries:

1. USA/Israel (Read: Iran-Contra affair)
2. China
3. Syria
4. North Korea
5. Libya
6. Soviet Union
7. Yugoslavia
8. Portugal

And Iran was defending itself .. none of above countries provided Iran with CW, warplanes, Nuclear reactor, Immune in the UNSC and political support for 10 years first the UNSC resolution against usage of CW against Saddam was issued after war , manpower, their air space and ports, their pilots and jets, intelligence and satellite footage and so on ... not to mention all countries that supported Saddam were well aware that he was aggressor.

 

[Maarkhoor]

lol


That's a well known issue.
moreover, I don't even understand what the OP is on about. Many countries that believe in Allah have been defeated so many times throughout history. I don't see the link between a country that believes in Allah and losing/winning a war. The two are not related, so why bring GOD into play here?

Victory and defeat much related in believing in Allah SWT, his messenger and teachings...all those Muslim countries defeated in wars because they believe in Allah SWT but don't follow the teachings.

 

[jamahir]

Victory and defeat much related in believing in Allah SWT, his messenger and teachings...all those Muslim countries defeated in wars because they believe in Allah SWT but don't follow the teachings.

Just a mental exercise - we know the result if North Korea decides for a war against Saudia. Just those two.

Saudia thinks it is a Islamic country.

 

[Signalian]

And Iran was defending itself .. none of above countries provided Iran with CW, warplanes, Nuclear reactor, Immune in the UNSC and political support, manpower, their air space and ports, their pilots and jets, intelligence and satellite footage and so on ... not to mention all countries that supported Saddam were well aware that he was aggressor.

lol, what a way to show that Iran was not supplied weapons by other countries by saying that A,B,C was not provided by countries supplying arms but ignoring the X,Y, Z that was supplied to Iran

If Iran wanted to be on its own, it shouldn't have accepted weapons from any country.

If Iran did everything on its own, then why did it even accept supplies from other countries ? Please mate, dont twist statements. Iran was supplied weapons by few countries and it survived the war.

Chinese assistance can be seen here.
http://www.rubincenter.org/meria/1998/05/gates.pdf

The F-4 spare parts were provided by Israel to keep Iranian jets flying. Then spare parts were provided for US made tanks to Iran. And after that TOW was provided along with other weapons. I dont need ti post a link for this, the web is full of such information.

Iran took help from israel and OP says that belief in Allah helped, Lots of double standards here mate

any ways, neither of us can change history, continue with the spirit of patriotism.

 

[ValerioAurelius]

Only our corrupt politicians are willing for negotiations with your kind. Iranian people and their patriots have never asked government to sell the valuable oil to European corrupt countries. EU is corrupt and unfortunately our corrypt politicians have close relations with your countries. When you have no idea about me, don't you accuse me of having intentions to trade with EU countries, it's the last thing that i may think of, trading with EU is absolutely against Iran's long term national benefits.


Oh, and we don't have demonstrations in Italy. hahhah Berlosconi with a new girl???

The one from country of mafia should be the last person on this earth to teach me about corruption.


Before revolution. Update yourself man, your thoughts belongs to 4 decades ago

Why do you compare your clergy with our Mafia? I asked why your clergy have become billionaires and you say our mafia is rich too.

Also tell me how much oil Iran sells to Italy?

 

[raptor22]

lol, what a way to show that Iran was not supplied weapons by other countries by saying that A,B,C was not provided by countries supplying arms but ignoring the X,Y, Z that was supplied to Iran

If Iran wanted to be on its own, it shouldn't have accepted weapons from any country.

If Iran did everything on its own, then why did it even accept supplies from other countries ? Please mate, dont twist statements. Iran was supplied weapons by few countries and it survived the war.

Chinese assistance can be seen here.
http://www.rubincenter.org/meria/1998/05/gates.pdf

The F-4 spare parts were provided by Israel to keep Iranian jets flying. Then spare parts were provided for US made tanks to Iran. And after that TOW was provided along with other weapons. I dont need ti post a link for this, the web is full of such information.

Iran took help from israel and OP says that belief in Allah helped, Lots of double standards here mate

any ways, neither of us can change history, continue with the spirit of patriotism.

Yes usually in a war it's just weapons that play a role not those who use them and their beliefs ... solders whom stepped on mines voluntarily to make path or Iranian pilots whom flying 12 hours non stop by F14s to secure our air space from Iraqi jets that were coming from Saudis territories or Iranian people whom didn't have anything to eat but willingly sent their foods to the frontier ... you know what you are right everything is about weapon but even Saddam had enough support to:
Rebuild his air force 2~3 times during war after getting destroyed by Iran. ( Iran was getting spare part ..)
Rebuild his army .. at the begging he had only 12 divisions and at the end 58 ones ..
His tanks from 2700 to 4500 and Artillery from 1000 to 4000 ...
Not to mentioned all above helps he received from others and he was an aggressor.