If a friend insults my mother, “he’s going to get a punch” - Pope

[ranjeet]

very well then try this
"Make love not war" - John Lennon.

Lol

"I know what I believe. I will continue to articulate what I believe and what I believe -- I believe what I believe is right."
- George W. Bush.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

And so does Charlie Hebdo. Equally.

you mean France, the country......

not the publication per se

Charlie Hebdo Fired ‘Anti-Semitic’ Cartoonist For Ridiculing Judaism In 2009 - AnonHQ AnonHQ

 

[Levina]

"I know what I believe. I will continue to articulate what I believe and what I believe -- I believe what I believe is right."
- George W. Bush.

Am-Bushed

 

[metronome]

So you think global warming is a figment of somebody's imagination? and that its not a serious issue?

I believe man made global warming is a big hoax

Sorry I'm not brought up that way.

good to hear, I imagine you are also one of those who won't reach for their ak first thing should you hear something you don't like

Well the issue is that if you say " Charlie Hebdo did provoke muslims " then it is assumed that you're justifying the attack and if you say "Chalie Hebdo did not desreve it" then you 're bracketed with those who support absolute freedom of speech. But there no absolute freedom of speech and thats the truth.
Pope is doing a good job by trying to bring the nations closer and condemning such acts of terror and doing so without sullying a religion.

French publication in the French language meant for French consumption, these yahoos in Pakistan and Iraq etc have no business poking their nose in it lol

satire is meant to provoke, but in a positive way, he's effectively legitimizing the actions of the french jihadi murderers when he says stupid asz stuff like "expect a punch, there are limits, don't insult religion.." and all this other garbage.

maybe he grew up under Jorge Videla and so is used to being under a dictatorship..

fuk the pope, join me in my interweb jihad for free speech

 

[Hakan]

And so does Charlie Hebdo. Equally.

If someone like charlie hebdo were to deny the armenian "genocide" in switzerland for example he would be fined so the country in which someone is operating does play a role in what they are allowed to say, so no charlie hebdo can not make his own rules, he is still subject to the laws of the land. For example he isn't allowed to drive over the speed limit. but from what I have seen private people, entities etc . can determine what kind of information they choose not to publish in this case PDF limits freedom of speech by banning insults, graphic content etc.

People who advocated for free speech understand that it has limitations and never say its is 100%- all or nothing. For example any person in the U.S is free to criticize or even depict Jesus in a bad way. What he/she cannot do is run into a theatre and scream fire when one does not exist.

Opinion is free speech, satire is free speech because if you limit them there where does it stop and what exactly are the redlines. When someone videotapes themselves dancing to the Happy song?

I see what your saying. I think it should be up to individual countries to determine where the redline is and on what topics. In some countries you are not allowed to insult historical leaders and in other countries such as switzerland you are not allowed to express a different opinion on certain historical events. The people drew their red lines.

 

[VCheng]

If someone like charlie hebdo were to deny the armenian "genocide" in switzerland for example he would be fined so the country in which someone is operating does play a role in what they are allowed to say, so no charlie hebdo can not make his own rules, he is still subject to the laws of the land. For example he isn't allowed to drive over the speed limit. but from what I have seen private people, entities etc . can determine what kind of information they choose not to publish in this case PDF limits freedom of speech by banning insults, graphic content etc.

The point is that both PDF and Charlie Hebdu have the same rights, legally speaking.

 

[Hakan]

The point is that both PDF and Charlie Hebdu have the same rights, legally speaking.

Now back to my original point: People who believe in unlimited freedom should not use the report button or give out negative ratings as that would be hypocritical.

 

[metronome]

you mean France, the country......

not the publication per se

Charlie Hebdo Fired ‘Anti-Semitic’ Cartoonist For Ridiculing Judaism In 2009 - AnonHQ AnonHQ

If someone like charlie hebdo were to deny the armenian "genocide" in switzerland for example he would be fined so the country in which someone is operating does play a role in what they are allowed to say, so no charlie hebdo can not make his own rules, he is still subject to the laws of the land. For example he isn't allowed to drive over the speed limit. but from what I have seen private people, entities etc . can determine what kind of information they choose not to publish in this case PDF limits freedom of speech by banning insults, graphic content etc.

that's hypocrisy, the jooz should be fair game too

but that particular case aside, Charlie Hebdo, and a bunch of other cartoonists have had a go at them.. holocaust, gas chambers, murdering Palestinian kids, stealing money.. every jewish cliche imaginable has thoroughly been taken the proper piss on, and guess what.. nobody went on a rampage and mowed down innocents.

 

[VCheng]

Now back to my original point: People who believe in unlimited freedom should not use the report button or give out negative ratings as that would be hypocritical.

You are free to say that, but others have the same right to decide for themselves.

 

[Hakan]

that's hypocrisy, the jooz should be fair game too

but that particular case aside, Charlie Hebdo, and a bunch of other cartoonists have had a go at them.. holocaust, gas chambers, murdering Palestinian kids, stealing money.. every jewish cliche imaginable has thoroughly been taken the proper piss on, and guess what.. nobody went on a rampage and mowed down innocents.

Yeah and I condemn the massacre so whats your point?

You are free to say that, but others have the same right to decide for themselves.

yup thats right they can still use the button but they are being hypocritical.

 

[VCheng]

yup thats right they can still use the button but they are being hypocritical.

... in your opinion only.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

that's hypocrisy, the jooz should be fair game too

but that particular case aside, Charlie Hebdo, and a bunch of other cartoonists have had a go at them.. holocaust, gas chambers, murdering Palestinian kids, stealing money.. every jewish cliche imaginable has thoroughly been taken the proper piss on, and guess what.. nobody went on a rampage and mowed down innocents.

all anti semitic material was not re-printed and/or the specific cartoonists lost their jobs....i posted that to show the hypocrisy on full display. Hell - holocaust denial is an arrestable offence in many EU countries

(its stupid to deny the holocaust but its also stupid to deliberately inflame and offend people of a certain religious group)

 

[Hakan]

... in your opinion only.

Obviously

You are free to say that, but others have the same right to decide for themselves.

... in your opinion only.

 

[VCheng]

Obviously


... in your opinion only.

Of course. See how respecting each other's right to an opinion and to express it is sooooo easy?

 

[Guynextdoor2]

If he INDEED said this- because within the language translation his meaning could have been misunderstood. It is extremely disappointing how he justifies violence.

I think he probably did coz all relegions including Christianity are at the receiving end of satirists. Using this to get a bit of heat off himself and make people treat Christianity more 'respectfully' sounds like a move he might make.