IAF chief says India to have fifth-generation jets in 2018

[mrwarrior006]

good news man

so pak fa by 2018

and mca by 2022++

it will be one force to reckon with if not in world then atleast in the region

 

[indiarocks]

Do u hav any reliable source to prove that F-22, F-35 is offered to India.

Do u have source that any other 5th gene AC coming b4 2018....
Ur knowledge abt AC manufacturing is limited.

5th gene AC completely new thing....and Russia hav no prior exp abt it

brother yes we have confirmed sources....

lockheed indian operation head mr. roger ross said on jan 04.2010

the f-35 deal has been offered to india as a replacement for its f-16's in future...if india buys them....


when he was questioned by the journos about the f-35 offered to navy....
his exact reply was

"WE ARE INTERESTED IN PROVIDING THESE BEASTS TO INDIA AS A NAVAL VERSIONS.WE ORGANISED A 7 HOUR PRESENTATION TO NAVY DELEGATION IN MUMBAI IN OCT OF 2009 AND INDIAN NAVY SEEMED IMPRESSED WITH US."

 

[Peshwa]

if india really gets that who knows what the US can offer pakistan.

F-35's aren't out of the question.

If the US offers F-35 to Pakistan....they might as well just sell em to China.....

Realistically.....until Pak is in the Chinese corner, they will be blacklisted from receiving top western tech......

Sad but true....especially considering Pak's alignment and becoming scapegoat for the west all these years.....

 

[boxer_B]

I can show u number of references just like that u posted where Eurofighter, Rafeal, Saab Gripen was offered in the reference of intrest to PAF. but it never means that they r offered.


EU plans to sell Eurofighter to PAF

Batter stay on this forum and also learn abt political and strategical statements....

Secondly their is no conform source where its proved that USA or lockhead is intrested to sell F-35 to IAF

Go through your own source at least once to know how confirmed Typhoon sale is to Pakistan.

Manipulated and fabricated story blown out of proportion.

Accept my well wishes for PAF crossing that juncture.

 

[boxer_B]

Indian Air Chief is famous for his big mouth,may be he will have a UFO in 3018

Not interested in answering your petulant post but go through Pak-FA/FGFA thread on Indian defense forum from first page and you will realize how many BIG mouths have been shut after first flight of TD, comparatively yours a kid !!!

 

[syntax_error]

Indian Air Chief is famous for his big mouth,may be he will have a UFO in 3018

quite possible mate something even way way better ... in a 1008 years who knows ...

 

[boxer_B]

yes and its from russia only.
Theres an other version of this aircraft which is made by india.
Its not their own design or anything.

Good to hear that, maybe you can claim your rightful spot in deliverance of F-35 instead of waiting last in the line.

FYI, India's wind tunnel model of stealth aircraft /AMCA will be developed in next 6 months. Glad you informed us that its not our design before it even got a chance to come on drawing board ( India has two simultaneous 5th gen fighter project)

 

[deckingraj]

Haven't we seen that all along, LCA failed, Arjunk, NAG, LCH, Akaash blah blah blah........ Right now i hear those pathetic authors, both Indian and Pakistani, getting delivered slaps left and right!!


Let me give you an advice as an enemy

" Hope for the best and prepare for the worst"

Rather than hoping FGFA will further delay or worse will end up in a failure, let us see you pulling project of this magnitude, let us see you developing an anti-biotic for FGFA.

Ignore trolls but as far as bolded part is concerned these are SAD times for PAF...or may i say they have lost a decade of modernization......When a country yet to induct a plane(JF17) which is inferior to your adversary decade old plane(MkI) then surely these are sad affairs...One has to be nuts to overlook the obvious facts...

However i am sure there economy will come back to track and they would be able to counter our moves...Remember F22 is a reality and FGFA is still a prototype....So yes there are times when you have to play catching game with your adversaries that does not mean that we can run over Pak(i know you did not mean that but jsut saying for clarification)....

I am sure in good times PAF will pull something. As of now Pak need to concentrate on their SAM's, BM and CM's...Unfortunately as of current geo-politics they have little or no hope to match IAF might but nothing is permanent...

 

[faithfulguy]

I doubt IAF can afford Stealth assets in its inventory at mere $100 million and that's even in 2018 which is very unlikely economic projection as far as ever rising inflation in Global market is concerned. At the same time, by 2018, Russia may not be only source for its Fifth Generation needs, even ever growing relationship with US will fructify fifth generation supply of jets from US to India, as India sees US as major supplier of ultra modern weapon through collabrative methods.

You definitely have more insight than your countryman. Many in India believe that as Russia was friend of India before, it will always be. Sometimes, its important to look into hte future and the newer options.

 

[chinapakistan]

Than Chinese cannot built a 5th generation aircraft in next three decades. so India will be the oly one with fifth generation fighter.




So what is India and what is not depends on you?

Any src?
BTW: How many years did your LCA project delay? How many years did your tank project delay, and how many years did your PM words of "Let the world only remember mumbai foget shanghai" project delay? How many years did your "Let indian use 2M internet service for free" project delay? So we all know the creditability of this army chief's words. Show the fact, but not future plan or words.

 

[faithfulguy]

Any src?
BTW: How many years did your LCA project delay? How many years did your tank project delay, and how many years did your PM words of "Let the world only remember mumbai foget shanghai" project delay? How many years did your "Let indian use 2M internet service for free" project delay? So we all know the creditability of this army chief's words. Show the fact, but not future plan or words.

LCA and Arjun are strickly Indian only projects and so it took them many years to produce any results. However, PAKFA is a Russian project and Russia has record excellent results. Indian AF is just going to open up the wallet and once the plane is ready, paint it Indian colors. So the chances of this plane becoming successful is much higher than LCA and Arjun.

Having say that, PAKFA won't be ready until 2025 time range as it take time to develop all other components, test them and make sure it won't crash all the time. It took F-22 about 15 years from winning the competition to be able to field the first squadron. It should take PAKFA about that much time. However, you won't see the LCA type of delay.

 

[jbond197]

Giving time get more knowledge.....
Real thing is that

There is no LCA in air.
No MRCA AC with Indian flag

Post some practical things, which is done

What LCA /MRCA has to do with this thread. You are proving yourself to be a senior TROLL

 

[Merilion]

Arjun--->124 tanks(LSP) after trails being over the number will eventually go up.
NAG------> All trails completed and 400+ missiles initial order was made with number eventually going into 1000`s.
Derivative of NAG--HeliNa will be ordered in 1000`s again considering the number of attack helis in the inventory or being inducted.

Akash----->8 sqads for Airforce on order and 2 of army on order with numbers to eventually go up.

Trishul------> The only technology demostrator so far for India,while other nations carried away with numerous TD`s.Good thing with Trishul is ,it proved a highly complex 3 beam guidance and a quick reaction of a mere 6 sec with sucessfull hits during its trails.But the naval variant fell short of naval requirements.

Astra-------> Will become a backbone in terms of BVRAAM for IAF.It will be a weapon of choice for all fighters in the indian inventory.

--snipped---

some people just love to live in future

 

[holysaturn]

some people just love to live in future

don just say something if u hav nothing else to speak.

 

[holysaturn]

LCA and Arjun are strickly Indian only projects and so it took them many years to produce any results. However, PAKFA is a Russian project and Russia has record excellent results. Indian AF is just going to open up the wallet and once the plane is ready, paint it Indian colors. So the chances of this plane becoming successful is much higher than LCA and Arjun.

Having say that, PAKFA won't be ready until 2025 time range as it take time to develop all other components, test them and make sure it won't crash all the time. It took F-22 about 15 years from winning the competition to be able to field the first squadron. It should take PAKFA about that much time. However, you won't see the LCA type of delay.

so u r the project manager for these machines and u set the timelines right...........if pak-fa(whose prototype has flown and two good industrial nations are working on it) is not going to happen before 2025 then j-xx which is still on the drawing board might happen in 2040, may be even later since only china is developing it.