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Humans on Mars One mission would start dying off in 68 days - MIT study

Those hoping to send humans to Mars in just over a decade might have to wait. According to a new study, humans living on the Red Planet would begin dying off within 68 days of landing on the fourth rock from the sun.

The Mars One plan to send humans to Mars by 2025 has certainly captured a lot of imaginations. After the application deadline came and passed earlier this month, more than 200,000 people from 140 countries had applied to make mankind’s maiden voyage to the Red Planet.

According to researchers at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, there is one problem: if they did make the trip, they would all die off within a couple months.

Drawing on data from the Mars One group, the team used computer modeling to determine the required amounts of oxygen, food and technology needed for the project.

According to their 35-page report, the problem, ironically, is not too little oxygen, but rather, too much of it. So far, Mars One plans to grow its crops in the same space where people live. According to the data, the first wheat crop would reach maturity at around 68 days, causing a spike in oxygen.

The problem is, all of that oxygen is highly flammable and will need to be vented out. Existing technology, however, does not allow for vents to distinguish nitrogen from oxygen, so as the oxygen is sucked out, so goes the nitrogen.

That would leave the colonizers with two choices: die due to suffocation from low air pressure or watch your entire Martian colony erupt in a ball of fire. If that’s not enough, the colonists would be living in sweltering 100 degree humidity while the wheat reached maturity. The students also found that the Dutch-based Mars One group had drastically underestimated the cost of spare parts, logistics and maintenance required to keep the station up and running.

“The continued operation of the ISS [International Space Station] is dependent upon regular (and even unplanned) resupply of replacement parts from Earth, and in the event of an unrecoverable system failure the crew have the option to quickly return to Earth. On Mars, resupply logistics will be much more challenging and there will be no feasible option for the crew to return to Earth in a timely manner,” the report read.

It added that the ability to repair and sustain systems on the planet, as well as having access to the parts necessary to do this, “is critical to mission safety.”

The team said that after 130 months on the Martian surface, spare parts would begin to take up 62 percent of the mass transported there. It added that in the most optimistic scenario, “the first crew of a Mars settlement will require approximately 15 Falcon Heavy launches costing $4.5 billion, and these values will grow with additional crews.”

Psychological strain, limited diet, constrained living space and repetitive social interactions are also noted as potential problems.

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The longest any human being has ever stayed in space was 437 days. The cosmonaut to achieve the feat was Valery Polyakov, who spent his time aboard the Mir space station nearly two decades back.

Polyakov spoke at the time of having a rough time adjusting to conditions on the station, though mentally he rebounded within three weeks’ time.

A doctor by trade, Polyakov volunteered for the mission to prove the human body could survive the strains of microgravity for a long enough period to survive the journey to Mars.

As it stands, Polyakov’s record will unlikely be broken until humans venture to the Red Planet.

In line with its tentative schedule, Mars One plans to send their first crew of four astronauts to Mars in 2025 following a seven-month voyage from Earth. Additional teams would be sent every other year, with the hope that by 2033, more than 20 people will be living on the planet. Mars One intends to send a communication station, habitat modules and a rover to the planet before humans make their grand appearance.

For those who boldly go where no man has gone before, one thing remains certain: whether they live 68 days or 68 years, Mars One has stressed to its potential astronauts that there’s no going back.

But for the pioneers willing to take the trip, that small sacrifice will be worth the next great leap they hope to make for mankind.

Link: Humans on Mars One mission would start dying off in 68 days - MIT study — RT News

Looks like the fatwa warning Muslims to stay away from this death trap of a mission was right.
 
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Humans on Mars One mission would start dying off in 68 days - MIT study

Those hoping to send humans to Mars in just over a decade might have to wait. According to a new study, humans living on the Red Planet would begin dying off within 68 days of landing on the fourth rock from the sun.

The Mars One plan to send humans to Mars by 2025 has certainly captured a lot of imaginations. After the application deadline came and passed earlier this month, more than 200,000 people from 140 countries had applied to make mankind’s maiden voyage to the Red Planet.

According to researchers at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, there is one problem: if they did make the trip, they would all die off within a couple months.

Drawing on data from the Mars One group, the team used computer modeling to determine the required amounts of oxygen, food and technology needed for the project.

According to their 35-page report, the problem, ironically, is not too little oxygen, but rather, too much of it. So far, Mars One plans to grow its crops in the same space where people live. According to the data, the first wheat crop would reach maturity at around 68 days, causing a spike in oxygen.

The problem is, all of that oxygen is highly flammable and will need to be vented out. Existing technology, however, does not allow for vents to distinguish nitrogen from oxygen, so as the oxygen is sucked out, so goes the nitrogen.

That would leave the colonizers with two choices: die due to suffocation from low air pressure or watch your entire Martian colony erupt in a ball of fire. If that’s not enough, the colonists would be living in sweltering 100 degree humidity while the wheat reached maturity. The students also found that the Dutch-based Mars One group had drastically underestimated the cost of spare parts, logistics and maintenance required to keep the station up and running.

“The continued operation of the ISS [International Space Station] is dependent upon regular (and even unplanned) resupply of replacement parts from Earth, and in the event of an unrecoverable system failure the crew have the option to quickly return to Earth. On Mars, resupply logistics will be much more challenging and there will be no feasible option for the crew to return to Earth in a timely manner,” the report read.

It added that the ability to repair and sustain systems on the planet, as well as having access to the parts necessary to do this, “is critical to mission safety.”

The team said that after 130 months on the Martian surface, spare parts would begin to take up 62 percent of the mass transported there. It added that in the most optimistic scenario, “the first crew of a Mars settlement will require approximately 15 Falcon Heavy launches costing $4.5 billion, and these values will grow with additional crews.”

Psychological strain, limited diet, constrained living space and repetitive social interactions are also noted as potential problems.

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The longest any human being has ever stayed in space was 437 days. The cosmonaut to achieve the feat was Valery Polyakov, who spent his time aboard the Mir space station nearly two decades back.

Polyakov spoke at the time of having a rough time adjusting to conditions on the station, though mentally he rebounded within three weeks’ time.

A doctor by trade, Polyakov volunteered for the mission to prove the human body could survive the strains of microgravity for a long enough period to survive the journey to Mars.

As it stands, Polyakov’s record will unlikely be broken until humans venture to the Red Planet.

In line with its tentative schedule, Mars One plans to send their first crew of four astronauts to Mars in 2025 following a seven-month voyage from Earth. Additional teams would be sent every other year, with the hope that by 2033, more than 20 people will be living on the planet. Mars One intends to send a communication station, habitat modules and a rover to the planet before humans make their grand appearance.

For those who boldly go where no man has gone before, one thing remains certain: whether they live 68 days or 68 years, Mars One has stressed to its potential astronauts that there’s no going back.

But for the pioneers willing to take the trip, that small sacrifice will be worth the next great leap they hope to make for mankind.

Link: Humans on Mars One mission would start dying off in 68 days - MIT study — RT News

Looks like the fatwa warning Muslims to stay away from this death trap of a mission was right.
This study is a sham, they wouldn't die at all from the mission, because it's never getting off the ground, and yes pun intended.
 
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Humans on Mars One mission would start dying off in 68 days - MIT study

Those hoping to send humans to Mars in just over a decade might have to wait. According to a new study, humans living on the Red Planet would begin dying off within 68 days of landing on the fourth rock from the sun.

The Mars One plan to send humans to Mars by 2025 has certainly captured a lot of imaginations. After the application deadline came and passed earlier this month, more than 200,000 people from 140 countries had applied to make mankind’s maiden voyage to the Red Planet.

According to researchers at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, there is one problem: if they did make the trip, they would all die off within a couple months.

Drawing on data from the Mars One group, the team used computer modeling to determine the required amounts of oxygen, food and technology needed for the project.

According to their 35-page report, the problem, ironically, is not too little oxygen, but rather, too much of it. So far, Mars One plans to grow its crops in the same space where people live. According to the data, the first wheat crop would reach maturity at around 68 days, causing a spike in oxygen.

The problem is, all of that oxygen is highly flammable and will need to be vented out. Existing technology, however, does not allow for vents to distinguish nitrogen from oxygen, so as the oxygen is sucked out, so goes the nitrogen.

That would leave the colonizers with two choices: die due to suffocation from low air pressure or watch your entire Martian colony erupt in a ball of fire. If that’s not enough, the colonists would be living in sweltering 100 degree humidity while the wheat reached maturity. The students also found that the Dutch-based Mars One group had drastically underestimated the cost of spare parts, logistics and maintenance required to keep the station up and running.

“The continued operation of the ISS [International Space Station] is dependent upon regular (and even unplanned) resupply of replacement parts from Earth, and in the event of an unrecoverable system failure the crew have the option to quickly return to Earth. On Mars, resupply logistics will be much more challenging and there will be no feasible option for the crew to return to Earth in a timely manner,” the report read.

It added that the ability to repair and sustain systems on the planet, as well as having access to the parts necessary to do this, “is critical to mission safety.”

The team said that after 130 months on the Martian surface, spare parts would begin to take up 62 percent of the mass transported there. It added that in the most optimistic scenario, “the first crew of a Mars settlement will require approximately 15 Falcon Heavy launches costing $4.5 billion, and these values will grow with additional crews.”

Psychological strain, limited diet, constrained living space and repetitive social interactions are also noted as potential problems.

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The longest any human being has ever stayed in space was 437 days. The cosmonaut to achieve the feat was Valery Polyakov, who spent his time aboard the Mir space station nearly two decades back.

Polyakov spoke at the time of having a rough time adjusting to conditions on the station, though mentally he rebounded within three weeks’ time.

A doctor by trade, Polyakov volunteered for the mission to prove the human body could survive the strains of microgravity for a long enough period to survive the journey to Mars.

As it stands, Polyakov’s record will unlikely be broken until humans venture to the Red Planet.

In line with its tentative schedule, Mars One plans to send their first crew of four astronauts to Mars in 2025 following a seven-month voyage from Earth. Additional teams would be sent every other year, with the hope that by 2033, more than 20 people will be living on the planet. Mars One intends to send a communication station, habitat modules and a rover to the planet before humans make their grand appearance.

For those who boldly go where no man has gone before, one thing remains certain: whether they live 68 days or 68 years, Mars One has stressed to its potential astronauts that there’s no going back.

But for the pioneers willing to take the trip, that small sacrifice will be worth the next great leap they hope to make for mankind.

Link: Humans on Mars One mission would start dying off in 68 days - MIT study — RT News

Looks like the fatwa warning Muslims to stay away from this death trap of a mission was right.
Good. Brave explorers are giving their lives for our advancement.
to the OP:
Use your own brains instead of following a mullah's fatwas.
 
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MarsOne seems like a hoax. If they are hoping to initialise the mission in 2020s then they should have some preparations right now but they are totally clueless on what they are doing. Selection of astronauts is the most comical thing ever. Participants have no past experience in space or idea about the dangers of the mission.
 
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well it was ambitious and we all pretty much knew this wouldn't get off the ground.

I think a better more feasible solution would be to lasso a 50 to 100 meter asteroid, hollow it out, and use the concept of nuclear explosions as propulsion. if it can get near one percent speed of light would cut the journey down to a few days.

Project Orion (nuclear propulsion) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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"An important aspect of this new material is that it does not react irreversibly with oxygen - even though it absorbs oxygen in a so-called selective chemisorptive process. The material is both a sensor, and a container for oxygen - we can use it to bind, store and transport oxygen - like a solid artificial hemoglobin", says Christine McKenzie.
The material is so effective at binding oxygen, that only a spoon of it is enough to suck up all the oxygen in a room. The researchers' work indicates that the substance can absorb and bind oxygen in a concentration 160 times larger than the concentration in the air around us.
"It is also interesting that the material can absorb and release oxygen many times without losing the ability. It is like dipping a sponge in water, squeezing the water out of it and repeating the process over and over again", Christine McKenzie explains.
Once the oxygen has been absorbed you can keep it stored in the material until you want to release it. The oxygen can be released by gently heating the material or subjecting it to low oxygen pressures."

New material steals oxygen from the air


Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2014-09-material-oxygen-air.html#jCp
 
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well it was ambitious and we all pretty much knew this wouldn't get off the ground.

I think a better more feasible solution would be to lasso a 50 to 100 meter asteroid, hollow it out, and use the concept of nuclear explosions as propulsion. if it can get near one percent speed of light would cut the journey down to a few days.

Project Orion (nuclear propulsion) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
it was pulse propelled design
the outer space treaty forbids the use of nukes in space so u would have to find a way to contain the fission/fusion reactions with in the space craft which is not possible
 
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the scientist in me says:

why not just dilute the oxygen with argon or other inert gases pumped in from the external atmosphere...?
 
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If that’s not enough, the colonists would be living in sweltering 100 degree humidity while the wheat reached maturity. The students also found that the Dutch-based Mars

what, these students think the colony people will live in the same chamber as the crops??

One group had drastically underestimated the cost of spare parts, logistics and maintenance required to keep the station up and running.

bloody capitalist thinking !!!

Selection of astronauts is the most comical thing ever. Participants have no past experience in space or idea about the dangers of the mission.

yours is quite a wrong ... did yuri gagarin have experience in space before he went up??

the "mars one" plan is to build a settlement on mars, not a little expedition of college professors on earth who know that help is a vailable with a cell phone call or sat phone call.

good riddance

let people have ambitions, okay??

expensive though !

compared to what?? buying of western weapons by certain governments??

Use your own brains instead of following a mullah's fatwas

yes, sanghi space agency isro is the most ambitious and capable ever... isro's vyomanonauts visited mars in their vedic spaceships 5000 years ago.
 
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yes, sanghi space agency isro is the most ambitious and capable ever... isro's vyomanonauts visited mars in their vedic spaceships 5000 years ago.
Ja gaddafi aerospace me ja...par pehle college pass kar le. Fir ISIS join kar lena
 
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what, these students think the colony people will live in the same chamber as the crops??



bloody capitalist thinking !!!



yours is quite a wrong ... did yuri gagarin have experience in space before he went up??

the "mars one" plan is to build a settlement on mars, not a little expedition of college professors on earth who know that help is a vailable with a cell phone call or sat phone call.



let people have ambitions, okay??



compared to what?? buying of western weapons by certain governments??



yes, sanghi space agency isro is the most ambitious and capable ever... isro's vyomanonauts visited mars in their vedic spaceships 5000 years ago.
there is some difference in being ambitions and being a chutiya ~! look at urself !
 
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