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How would you divide, destroy and conquer USA?

I am not sure if you were responding to my post but, as I mentioned, every empire in history looks invincible until it crumbles. The US is no exception and can be brought down if the conditions I outlined above are met. The "checks and balances" are in place by the will of the people. If the people themselves can be brainwashed to reject and renounce those "checks and balances", then they become void. The only way to keep them in force is by military power.

If one State decides to secede, the Federal government can bring in the military to bring them in line. How far will the military go? Will they massacres hundreds of thousands of people to keep the State within the Union?
What happens if ten States decide to secede? Twenty?

Think it can't be done?
Think Americans are immune to mass brainwashing?
Think again!

All human societies can be manipulated.

Impossible.dissent- yes.Secession- never.U underestimate the patriotism of the american people.Yes america can decline from its current power state - however that will be marginal.Economic decline-very possible.But in that case too usa will continue to remain one of the most powerful countries in the world..just not the indisputable one.The scenario of balkanization that some fools here fantasizing abt is just impossible.Unless its a global apocalypse and meltdown of human civilization.
 
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Impossible.dissent- yes.Secession- never.U underestimate the patriotism of the american people.Yes america can decline from its current power state - however that will be marginal.Economic decline-very possible.But in that case too usa will continue to remain one of the most powerful countries in the world..just not the indisputable one.The scenario of balkanization that some fools here fantasizing abt is just impossible.Unless its a global apocalypse and meltdown of human civilization.

Nothing is impossible.

You are welcome to continue believing whatever you wish, but I know far more about American society than most here would care to admit. There are fault lines, as in any other society. The fault lines can be exploited, given the right conditions.

Americans are human beings, and all human societies are subject to well known principles of psychology and sociology.
 
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Nothing is impossible.

You are welcome to continue believing whatever you wish, but I know far more about American society than most here would care to admit. There are fault lines, as in any other society. The fault lines can be exploited, given the right conditions.

Americans are human beings, and all human societies are subject to well known principles of psychology and sociology.

Can America be divided. Sure it can happened during the Revolutionary War and the Civil War over states rights and slavery. But in this day and age anybody foreigner that attempts to instigate such action would take notice and CIA would do something about it back to its source. Even start a civil war in that country in response.o_O

Think about the 9/11 attacks and the response since. Whats going on in the Middle East? Think Osama Bin Laden wanted to see Muslims killing Muslims in the millions in the region? Could America be blamed for it? Who knows.
 
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How would you divide, destroy and conquer USA?



Step 1
Convert a part of US to Islam, say Florida and California

Step 2
Create and encourage differences between Muslims and other religions. and promote sectarian hatred.

Step 3
Demand that Muslims are different from Christians, Buddhists,Hindus atheists and need a separate homeland where they can practise their religion in "peace"

Step 4
Create a small nation in name of religion for Muslims of USA.
This nation will consist of Florida(East Muslimstan) and California(West Muslimstan) separated by thousands of kms

Step 5
Rule citizens of East Muslimstan like an overseas colony and do genocide on them when they seek equality.

Step 6
When Muslims of East Muslimstan revolt and secede go back on your word that Muslimstan was created for Muslims of USA.
Instead start calling West Muslimstan as just Muslimstan and say it was created for people who lived in West Muslimstan

Step 7
Promote a sense of victimhood in the people of this new state so as to foster a fortress mentality in people.
Use this fortress mentality to project military as their saviour and encourage hatred of their former countrymen at every level
Military enjoying undue power will make that country a failed state dependant on foreign aid

Step 8
Use this mercenary of a nation to keep rest of USA bogged down so that neither of two develops much.

Voila! you have achieved your goal.
Pop that Champagne!!

Disclaimer : Any resemblance to real events is purely coincidental .
 
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Can America be divided. Sure it can happened during the Revolutionary War and the Civil War over states rights and slavery. But in this day and age anybody foreigner that attempts to instigate such action would take notice and CIA would do something about it back to its source. Even start a civil war in that country in response.o_O

Think about the 9/11 attacks and the response since. Whats going on in the Middle East? Think Osama Bin Laden wanted to see Muslims killing Muslims in the millions in the region? Could America be blamed for it? Who knows.

I agree that America has the means to do this in other countries more than those countries have the means to do it in America. However, I was talking about the basic principles of psychology and sociology, and stating the fact that all our technological marvels haven't made us -- including the US -- immune to those behavioral patterns.

As to your point about CIA tracking down foreigners attempting any divisiveness, one of my points was the breakdown of law and order. The societal implosion is much easier once law enforcement has been sufficiently weakened, and any competent entity planning America's implosion would first assure that prerequisite.

Also, what makes you think all this would be done by foreigners? Are you sure there aren't powerful American interests who are convinced the America of today is no longer true to the founding fathers' vision?
 
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Canada will take Florida since we have snowbirds there in the winter already which make up half (exaggerated) of the population.

To destroy the US is simple. Just feed them cream puffs and Kardashian.
 
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If the groundwork is laid properly -- empowering local thugs to form factions -- then false flags are not even needed. All that is needed is to provide money, weapons and access to some hot-headed individuals, so they carry out the dirty deeds.

The puppeteers only need to make sure "the house alarm is broken or turned off", so to speak...

Once the deed is done, the puppets can be "exposed" and quickly finished off by the puppeteers themselves in a valiant show of righteousness.
I don't think so. Creating thugs is not enough, they need mediatic and military commanding

For example AQIM is useless in Mali when they are not commanded by NATO: they only killed 5 french soldiers. And they kill hundreds of thousands when they have NATO behind them

They won't be willing to fight if they don't feel a strong support behind them and they don't have the guarantee that their war crimes won't be punished
 
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He is another clown hiding with china and France flag..crazy guy.. If USA goes down..then I don't like it live talibani people in stone age...
 
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He is another clown hiding with china and France flag..crazy guy.. If USA goes down..then I don't like it live talibani people in stone age...
Yes we gonna give you your medicine

You are a satanist country that use the worst forbidden strategies, now everything is gonna be burnt because of Israhell
 
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I agree that America has the means to do this in other countries more than those countries have the means to do it in America. However, I was talking about the basic principles of psychology and sociology, and stating the fact that all our technological marvels haven't made us -- including the US -- immune to those behavioral patterns.

As to your point about CIA tracking down foreigners attempting any divisiveness, one of my points was the breakdown of law and order. The societal implosion is much easier once law enforcement has been sufficiently weakened, and any competent entity planning America's implosion would first assure that prerequisite.

Also, what makes you think all this would be done by foreigners? Are you sure there aren't powerful American interests who are convinced the America of today is no longer true to the founding fathers' vision?

Take more than bravado like willpower and resources to to achieve such aims. Especially against the U.S. govt. Anti-govt militias and stand alone terrorists just won't cut it. This kid killed two police officers after dispute by his father over his rights. You know how that ended in the video. What do you think the police did in the end of the video?
 
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How would you divide, destroy and conquer USA?



Step 1
Convert a part of US to Islam, say Florida and California

Step 2
Create and encourage differences between Muslims and other religions. and promote sectarian hatred.

Step 3
Demand that Muslims are different from Christians, Buddhists,Hindus atheists and need a separate homeland where they can practise their religion in "peace"

Step 4
Create a small nation in name of religion for Muslims of USA.
This nation will consist of Florida(East Muslimstan) and California(West Muslimstan) separated by thousands of kms

Step 5
Rule citizens of East Muslimstan like an overseas colony and do genocide on them when they seek equality.

Step 6
When Muslims of East Muslimstan revolt and secede go back on your word that Muslimstan was created for Muslims of USA.
Instead start calling West Muslimstan as just Muslimstan and say it was created for people who lived in West Muslimstan

Step 7
Promote a sense of victimhood in the people of this new state so as to foster a fortress mentality in people.
Use this fortress mentality to project military as their saviour and encourage hatred of their former countrymen at every level
Military enjoying undue power will make that country a failed state dependant on foreign aid

Step 8
Use this mercenary of a nation to keep rest of USA bogged down so that neither of two develops much.

Voila! you have achieved your goal.
Pop that Champagne!!

Disclaimer : Any resemblance to real events is purely coincidental .
The best thing is that just do the step1 and 2 and everything will follow automatically.
 
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Reading this thread is hilarious, for two reasons. Both those who are clearly not serious but also those who try to be serious about it but know little to nothing about America.

For some reason, religion keeps being invoked. If you truly understand anything about America then it is that it is race not religion which is the defining feature of the social fabric. That's been the case since day one and continues today.

In other words, if you want to break up America, race is where it begins and ends. As for high prison intake and high murder rates, people who are ignorant about America don't know that this is mostly racial policing of blacks in America by the white establishment. The so-called "war on drugs" launched in the 70s was a thinly veiled campaign to introduce mass-incarceration onto the most criminial segment of the population: young black men and boys(some of them so young as 13,14 or 15).

Thus, by merely being caught with a few grammes of marijuana could send you into prison for 20 years or more. Why was this the case? Because after the 60s, there was a black crime wave that swept through the country and the rise and rise of Republican ideas after this decade is not a coincidence.

How do you divide America today? It is already dividing itself. The previous period of mass immigration ended in the mid-1920s and it was mostly European in origin. From there on until 1965, these immigrants became forged into one nation. They became assimiliated into one giant white America.

That's not the case this time. There has been no pause and even if there would be, you can't assimilate all these immigrants into one racial/cultural group. Americans will often say that this doesn't matter but that's because the media is constantly saying it doesn't, but it does. We now have the outgrowth of disparate racial identities, some of whom are built on racial resentment against whites. This resentment is shallow, however, since it is mostly done due to the fact that many ethno-nationalists of minority communities feel that their group are melting away, tradition-wise.

Ask 2nd generation Chinese kids how proficient they are in Mandarin and prepare to get shocked.
So by demonizing white people, you get an "external enemy" to organize against. Just like the American authorities demonized yellow people with the "Yellow Peril" campaign, in order to de-empathize differences between the various European groups(Italian, Jewish, Irish, Polish etc).

The "problem" is that this is still low-intensity, as of now. But over time, you could well be seeing a seperate identity for hispanics, who are still today fooling themselves that they are white, while they are mestizo at best and part of an American Indian tribal culture long wiped out.

Blacks will, ironically, not really be the key here. Most blacks have lived in America for centuries. Whatever their grievances, they have no other diaspora or cultural background than American. Southern U.S. could easily pass to Mexicans. Trying to defeat the U.S. military is a fool's errand, but it is not sufficient. A silent demographic takeover, fulled by massive immigration, is already under way in California, Texas, Nevada and so on. So South-Eastern U.S. becomes very hispanic.

The key, then, is to seperate these hispanics from the general population. And this requires a lot of education over a long period of time. I'm skeptical of this, that it can be done in sufficent numbers to actually initiate a secession from the hispanics. But this is really where it should start.

The role of Asians is interesting. They are by and large a successful group. They do, however, have a clear outsider's identity and vote overwhelmingly for the democratic party, not the Republican party(which is getting 60% of the white vote and more than that in the South).

Still, their racial relations with whites in the U.S. is mostly excellent, especially for Indians. If there would be any major issues, I'm guessing many of them would go home, especially the Korean and Chinese who have well-functioning home countries to return to. Other Asians, like the Pakistianis or the Bangladeshis have pretty shitty countries back home, so it's more unclear if they would return.

Not all would go, of course. Those who would remain would likely move into the multicultural camp, but at the same time, they would most likely not join the radical anti-white factions. The most likely camp would be the moderate white liberal, pro-"unity" camp. Overall, the role of Asians in any such conflict would be muted.
Jews in America would line up with whites, but not the nationalistic whites, but the same group of moderate status quo-type of whites like the Asians.

The intermarriage rate of secular Jews(who comprise 9 out of 10 Jews in America) is 71%. In other words, 71% of Jews of the most dominant stream are married to non-Jews, most of whom of are other whites. The small Orthodox population heavily leans Republican. The era of black-Jewish loyalty is all but over. Jews have become very ingrained into the white power structure of America, and heavily assimiliated.

Blacks are interesting. I return to them. They are the most criminal segment of the population. There is also a strong taboo in the U.S. of policing blacks. We saw in the aftermath of Katrina in 2005 of what life would look like in anarchy, roving bands of black criminals looting and killing. In any true chaotic situation, the blacks would force whites to become more militant. But I do not see this happening, as Katrina was a one-off.
There is a deep-seated anti-white sentiment in the black community, but attempts to ally blacks and hispanics have thus far failed. Whenever hispanics move into new neighbourhoods and schools, fights and conflicts often escalate between these two groups.

This is also a problem, because hispanics want to identify with whites, even if most of them are not white. They want to identify with the dominant culture. In 2008, when the Obama-mania cult was at its peak, hispanics still voted for Clinton in the democratic primary by 2-1, the same rate as the white working class(and we're only talking left-wing white working class voters here).

This is why, ultimately, I think that America will not be ripped apart from within by itself. Race is the way to do it, if you are going to do it at all, but of the three groups, only one has the intellectual resources to attack the establishment and that is the Asian population. Yet it is mostly assimilating. Of the other two, the biggest and fastest-growing, the Hispanics, are identifying with whites much more strongly than with blacks(although this may change, but even if it does, the relations with blacks will remain mixed at best). Blacks have the most clear anti-white animus, but they are also the weakest of them all. Plus they do not have a diaspora identitiy like Asians or hispanics. This is a fatal weakness, because that means there is no identify that is not American is ready to assume. A new one has to be created, and preferably a completely African one. Yet how many blacks consider themselves only African? If they did, many of them would emigrate to Africa yet nobody is doing that. And not just for economic reasons. America has been their home for such a long time. Africa is a foreign place for them.

In brief, while there are ways to divide America, whites will continue to dominate the culture for a long, long time to come. Asian and Hispanic influence over American culture is almost zero. Black influence on low-brow culture is substantial. But the higher up you go, the whiter it gets. This will have to change, necessarily, as the country changes demographically. But will it be enough to push separatism? I doubt it.

America isn't as culturaly strong as it once was. That unity is over. America is unlikely to be destroyed, instead we are going to see an American more withdrawn into its own domestic affairs. Just managing the wide diversity of the country is going to take more energy from henceforth. Plus racial minorities tend to be a lot less in favor of foreign intervention more generally, which is not really a bad thing anything.
 
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Its like the south park episode goobacks, one day America will be a mix of every race and speak a mixture of every language haha.
 
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Canada will take Florida since we have snowbirds there in the winter already which make up half (exaggerated) of the population.

To destroy the US is simple. Just feed them cream puffs and Kardashian.

Are you serious...during the wintertime a percentage of your population skips out of the country...to Florida?
Oh just give up and become the 51st state.
 
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Are you serious...during the wintertime a percentage of your population skips out of the country...to Florida?
Oh just give up and become the 51st state.

If you ever go to Florida in the wintertime, make sure you can speak Canadian, or you won't make many friends.
If you want us, we can be your 58th state.
 
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