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how to sensibly React against Jamaat ul Ahraar

Discussion in 'Pakistan's Internal Security' started by shahbaz baig, Feb 17, 2017 at 8:04 PM.

  1. shahbaz baig

    shahbaz baig FULL MEMBER

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    Immediate Strategy
    1. Close the entire pak-afghan border infinitely
    2. find out who is the most beneficiary behind Jamaat ul Ahraar[in landlocked country] (Dont pass any comment until you dont find proofs)
    3. keep demanding and pressurize Afghan Govt to hand over militant to Pak
    4. Negotiate with Iran that they should not let go the indian or afghan across afghan-pak-iran border.
    5. Do not threat to any nation either from military or Civilian platform. or else pros and corns would be horrible. untilll you dont have proofs against state terrorism (india)

    Perfect Strategy
    1. Rise your voice in UN that we have doubt india is supporting Jamaat Ul Ahraar as they are biggest beneficiary. as india did after Mombai attack.
    2. NACTA should start working properly without any political influence
    3. Engage China as a Pakistani Collaborating partner at UN platform in this matter.
    4. if India say they are not involve then demand them either get out from Afghanistan if you are not involve or take an action against Jamaat Ul Ahraar inside Afghanistan.
    5. Deal with Russia to Deploy their naval forces in Gawadar.

    (I know you will not agree with me) and i dont know how you can do this but that is the final Solution. write down my words you cant stop Next bomb but can stop entirely by eradicating the Root

    kindly put some effort for the sensible solutions. i heard that Jamaat ul Ahraar is also Threatening to India but i think JA is defending his Boss.. but if it is true then there could be terrorist attack in india or else JA is defending to india.

     
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    Starlord FULL MEMBER

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    Nuke Afghanistan ..
     
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  3. I S I

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    You just gave a solution to World peace.
     
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    Little Falcon FULL MEMBER

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    :D when there is no human on earth. PEACE
     
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    maybe they don't have as robust a network in India as they obviously do in Pak to carry out an attack, would you like to see one anyway ? sure sounds like you do..

    this whole accusation sounds quite ridiculous anyway, because should India actually be involved in propping these groups and their activities in Pak, it would have to be in collusion with the Afghan NDS and will be hidden behind many layers of untraceable fail safe proxies.

    Jamaal ul Ahraar, TTP etc are Islamic supremacists, very deeply rooted ideological zealots, not ones who will knowingly partner with Hindus or Jews etc. To say that no attacks in India is proof of anything is just a silly conspiracy. If the ISI is any good, it'll find a proper trail and let the whole world know, everything else is just hot air till then.

    I think the problem is within Pakistan itself, you have so many indoctrinated sheep and crooked mullahs that you don't even need a foreign player to stoke trouble, and some power hungry politicians and an all powerful military establishment and you have a pretty volatile mix.

    stop blaming India.
     
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    Yeah, Mars is so peaceful.
     
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  7. Sheikh Rauf

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    Involve local police deep in hire more intelligence units in police. Also involve local nazims to keep an eye on their neighbours. Local shop keepers can be very helpful and people who take garbage from door to door..
    May be local cable people can be helpful too I have seen people with one bulb in house but they have tv and cable.
     
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    you want a Stasi style paranoid military police state where everyone spies on everyone else ?

    in wastelands like Afghanistan people often 'snitched' on others, or crooked warlords would round some local enemies up and have them shipped to Guantanamo, not good.
     
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    Well if that's what bring peace why not. Look what's going on around u.
    All these people or snitches from different prospects of life still exist gov sud involve them more comprehensively.
    Check and balance is very important and it can't happen if judiciary won't play it's vital role.
     
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    I don't agree in principle but sure, if that's what it will take to clean out the terror problem in Pakistan.

    The reality is that there already exists a very robust intel network and your agencies have been operating and coordinating with a lot of these 'non state' actors for very long but you can't ever fully control these snakes, this whole thing about your eastern border rats being halal but the exact same breed of filth from your north western border are haram is ridiculous.

    They have to be wiped out, there is no other way, venomous snakes do not make for good pets.
     
  11. shahbaz baig

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    Jamaat Ul Ahraar threaten you not Pakistan... but in your case you have threaten many time Officially to Pakistan so it could be India behind those terrorist. they dont need a Proper network which can be easily visible they run their Organization through Sleeper Cells which is almost hidden in any country. dont forget you have enough Muslims in india then Pak

    it sound simple to world that india is involved to sabotage CPEC. and create the hurdle in Pakistan to stop the upcoming prosperity

    if this is not a Conspiracy then there will be defiantly Continues attack by Jamaat Ul Ahraar. ISI will Surely expose your Puppet Jamaat Ul Ahraar. and if this Terrorist Orginzation is not your puppet then why not take action against this Organization in Afghanistan with the help of your bloody NDS.
    This is our internal matter. we are Successfully overcoming on corrupt politicians, Mullahs bit by bit. it will take alot of time
    who is the biggest beneficiary behind this kind of proxies war? it is india obviously
     
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  12. Sheikh Rauf

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    I don't agree with this kind of intelligents in country but I believe it need of time, like u said the combination is imp between these agencies and Gov is not financing what NECTA needs
    Gov is all about "looto or phuto" panama is going to be stuck in their neck and they can't run away no matter how many blasts and firing on LoC.
     
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    how does India benefit from internal chaos in Pakistan ?
     
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    because india support separatist movement of baluchistan, to Separate it from pak as you did in 1971. Definetly you are the only beneficiary to get your own satisfactions which shows how much you hate with PAK
     
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    There is only one way to destroy these outfit and its only as old as humanity itself, penetrate and destroy