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How the burka became 'cool'

Yes what you have said is also correct but the information I put up top what provided To us by the trainer on the course who was a senior special agent with the FBI so I'm going to take his word for it. :)
Yea of course same FBI who run havoc after 9/11 and dont negotiate with terroritsts unles sthey are white and go banging down people's doors and putting terror in them like any terroirsts...Sure he must be a saint to not want to get your mind to stop thinking itself and feed you even basics :agree:
 
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Yea of course same FBI who run havoc after 9/11 and dont negotiate with terroritsts unles sthey are white and go banging down people's doors and putting terror in them like any terroirsts...Sure he must be a saint to not want to get your mind to stop thinking itself and feed you even basics :agree:

Buddy I can think for myself don't you worry. But I was taught to respect my Ustad even if I don't agree wth the lesson.

Now coming to respect, can you respect my opinion when I say the Burka is a bad thing: :agree:
 
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I bet Niazi Bhai if Bhabi happens to find those photographs of you wearing a Burka she could threaten to leak them to the rest of the family when you don't want to take her out for shopping ! :whistle:

As shes my sister-in-law, I'll get right to getting those photographs for her ! :tongue:

Lol actually she found out about it and we laughed. It's still a running joke in the extended family.

I am not against the burqa, if women are comfortable with it heck who am I to care. But I do see it as a security threat! Yes I do !

@Akheilos - The Burqa ought to be banned - No ifs....no buts ! :mad:

Normal people shouldn't look like walking tents ! :whistle:

Lol
 
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Buddy I can think for myself don't you worry. But I was taught to respect my Ustad even if I don't agree wth the lesson.
There is respect and then there is blind swallowing and calling it facts....

Why kidnappers put a cover on the head: FACT is no one will think of dehumanizing you if they are ONLY kidnapping you for ransom...Their 1st priority will be not to be identified

Now coming to respect, can you respect my opinion when I say the Burka is a bad thing: :agree:
I can respect your difference of opinion but then there is no reason to accept it...

Respect doesnt mean blind acceptance...It just means I force you to go against what you believe...And in no way I am gonna put a burqa on you ;)

I am just questioning your choice which isnt lack of respect but a wake up call to think in a different direction...
 
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Nalin Mehta| Jul 5, 2015, 04.22 AM IST

When your four-year-old boy starts thinking of the burka as cool, it is time to sit up and take notice. Especially, when the burka comes repackaged as ninja-all-black on a Pakistani superheroine, destroying Taliban-like goons while moving to background music that sounds like a cross between Spiderman and Mission Impossible. An iron lady who despite living in the land of Malala Yusufzahi, uses books and pens as weapons to fight an enemy called Baba Bandook. Just as the mean streets of 1940s-New York led to the creative tensions that gave us Superman and Batman, the Talibanization of Pakistan and the recession of its modernity into an English-speaking ghetto has given rise to its first and possibly the world's most exciting animation experiment in years: the Burka Avenger.

While our very own kids' sensation Chota Bheem who lives in the timeless, make-believe world of Dholakpur where rajas still rule but kids also play T20-cricket and even go on expeditions to the North Pole, the Burka Avenger's world is set in in the North Pakistani town of Halwapur. It is constantly in danger of being taken over by the evil magician Baba Bandook, who looks like a Taliban commander, and is in cahoots with the corrupt politician Vader-Pajero. School-teacher by day, burka-clad avenger by night, Pakistan's new superwoman was created two years ago in Islamabad, got nominated for an Emmy in Hollywood, ranked among the world's most influential fictional characters by Time, and has now made her way into Indian television homes. This is the link with my four-year-old, who is among the many hooked on to this cleverly subtle social commentary on Pakistan's daily challenges, masquerading as a sweet children's caper.

The most delicious irony though is the use of the burqa as a super-uniform of real power, inverting its usual stereotype of suppression and inequality. Explaining the burka innovation, series creator AKA Haroon has been quoted as saying that the burka is simply hiding her identity like other superheroes and since the main character "is a woman, we could have dressed her up like Catwoman or Wonder Woman, but that wouldn't have worked in Pakistan."

Haroon's allusion to western superheroines points to another irony. America, the supposed bastion of modernity, feminism and individual freedom has created many super-heroines before but almost all of them were redolent with sexist imagery: more Barbie-doll than substance, conforming to male stereotypes of womanliness even when they were saving the world.

The early Wonder Woman comics in the 1940s, for example, were bizarrely full of women-bondage scenes, and the comic-book historian Tom Hanley has persuasively shown that Wonder Woman, during her curious career, became as much a feminist icon as a feminist failure.

So is Burka Avenger then a new feminist icon? It sits right in the middle of the visceral debate about the burqa itself and challenges orthodoxies. On one side of the argument are those like Nicolas Sarkozy, who as French President in 2009 denounced the burka as a "sign of subjugation and debasement". On the other, are women who defend their right to wear the burqa as an inalienable personal right.

Then there are sociologists like Z. Fareen Parvez who have done studies to show that the burka debates miss the point. Many burka-wearing women, in this view are not engaged in a form of politics but rather what may be called "anti-politics": a rejection of politics, a valorization of private life against the intrusive outside world and a retreat into a moral community. Other like the Sudanese writer and iconoclast Ayaan Hirsi Ali, who once wore a hijab, argue that many women don't have a choice in the matter of the burka. They just wear it because others around them do and it can't be restricted even if it is a symbol of oppression.

This is where Burka Avengers completely inverts the moral debates around the burka, making it a symbol of super power. Linking it to books and learning, it cuts through the politics to create real entertainment and empowering messaging. To yearn for "justice, peace and education for all" in Pakistan, as Burka Avenger does, is expected. But it takes special chutzpah to do this by re-inventing the garment and to turn it back like a ninja-weapon onto the mullahs of fundamentalism.

It is also, along with our very own Chota Bheem or Mighty Raju, part of a powerful new indigenous wave of compelling story-telling and counter-narrative of tales from the soil that challenge the Disney-dominated worlds of our children.

How the burka became 'cool' - The Times of India
:D By a similar TOI logic, methamphetamine (Breaking Bad fame) is cool too. :tup: In any case, no Indian knows about Burka Avenger, let alone consider it cool.* On the contrary, it makes sense to consider it hot, considering its use as a full body covering.

Also, Ayaan Hirsi Ali is no iconoclast. She is an atheist. The ISIS are iconoclasts for example, or the Taliban. Perhaps the meaning of iconoclasm was lost on the author. :)

*I am aware Zee brought it in April. And this is July by the way. :D
 
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@Akheilos - The Burqa ought to be banned - No ifs....no buts ! :mad:

Normal people shouldn't look like walking tents ! :whistle:
Too harsh words

:D By a similar TOI logic, methamphetamine (Breaking Bad fame) is cool too. :tup: In any case, no Indian knows about Burka Avenger, let alone consider it cool. On the contrary, it makes sense to consider it hot, considering its use as a full body covering.
denial attitude....TOI isnt your tabloid you know

Also, Ayaan Hirsi Ali is no iconoclast. She is an atheist. The ISIS are iconoclasts for example, or the Taliban. Perhaps the meaning of iconoclasm was lost on the author. :)
The very fact that many of you are dragging religion into it shwos your narrow mindset and inability to adapt/ like/ adjust to something new hitting charts esp when you are fearful of it....Islamophobia :tup:
 
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There is respect and then there is blind swallowing and calling it facts....

Why kidnappers put a cover on the head: FACT is no one will think of dehumanizing you if they are ONLY kidnapping you for ransom...Their 1st priority will be not to be identified


I can respect your difference of opinion but then there is no reason to accept it...

Respect doesnt mean blind acceptance...It just means I force you to go against what you believe...And in no way I am gonna put a burqa on you ;)

I am just questioning your choice which isnt lack of respect but a wake up call to think in a different direction...

I don't need a wake up call brother. I have seen enough to to learn to question and think out side the "box" this is something you and I will beg to differ on.

Perhaps if the roles were reversed I would ask you then and see how confident you in your thoughts.

Please don't judge all books by their covers.

Salam.
 
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Too harsh words


denial attitude....TOI isnt your tabloid you know


The very fact that many of you are dragging religion into it shwos your narrow mindset and inability to adapt/ like/ adjust to something new hitting charts esp when you are fearful of it....Islamophobia :tup:
'Islamophobia' - The Islamist's best tool to beat lesser Muslims/non Muslims. Keep it up. :tup:
 
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1) I dont know why men think they have a great say in what woman have to or can wear....

Some think they have to/ must cover and force it


Some think that they need to dress to please men and hence the heavily invested shitty advertisements where you dont understand who/what is being advertised and what it has to do with a woman in a mini skirt making people think its norm and should be - psychologically brainwashing it into acceptance....Just another form of force


2) The article is about a cartoon FOR GOD SAKES stop dragging religion in no one equated it to religion

3) The article is from INDIA and is read world over like other shitty articles from TOI but indians find those worth posting and beating their chest about but god forbid if the same people/ paper writes a good about their arch enemy :tsk: TYPICAL brainwashed hatred! :tup:

'Islamophobia' - The Islamist's best tool to beat lesser Muslims/non Muslims. Keep it up. :tup:
No it is a word that exists like some phobia lords use islamist when that word is grammatically wrong in terms of Arabic (from which the word Islam comes from)

and back to the same post :

The very fact that many of you are dragging religion into it shwos your narrow mindset and inability to adapt/ like/ adjust to something new hitting charts esp when you are fearful of it....Islamophobia :tup:

Oh come on ! :argh:

The Burka is not a part of Islam ! :pissed:

Its a part of Arab culture ! :taz:

The two are not the same.
I never accepted it or denied it...

1) I never said it is a part of Islam many on this thread are

2) I never said Arab culture and Islam are the same
 
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@Akheilos - The Burqa ought to be banned - No ifs....no buts ! :mad:

Normal people shouldn't look like walking tents ! :whistle:

Your normal may not be other peoples normal. I've never heard anyone on PDF complaining about banning nudity? So why should it be a problem for ''some'' when sisters want to cover up?

Here is a reality check:

1) Women wear burkha for Islamic reasons. I know Dawat-e-Islami Uliema Ikram have said it is fard on women as their are too many PERVERTS, as evident on PDF.

In fact Allah commands men FIRST.

''Tell the believing men to lower their gaze and be modest. That is purer for them. Lo! Allah is aware of what they do.'' (Surah Al-Nur v30)

2). Who will enforce the ban? In Syria, 2001 they banned the hijab and the Police were stabbed with screwdrivers. The ban was eventual overturned.

The above is an example of a country whose people are known to be soft. Pakistan is not a kafir country! We have principles, values and one of them is, ANY man touches another mans wife, sister, mother, etc HE DIES! ''No ifs...no buts !'' This is a reality!
 
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