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How 'Religious Defamation' Laws Would Ban Islam

by Raymond Ibrahim
FrontPage Magazine
September 26, 2012

As the Islamic world, in the guise of the 57-member state Organization of Islamic Cooperation, continues to push for the enforcement of "religious defamation" laws in the international arena—theoretically developed to protect all religions from insult, but in reality made for Islam—one great irony is lost, especially on Muslims: if such laws would ban movies and cartoons that defame Islam, they would also, by logical extension, have to ban the religion of Islam itself—the only religion whose core texts actively defame other religions.

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If films and cartoons defame Islam, the Quran itself defames other religions.

To understand this, consider what "defamation" means. Typical dictionary-definitions include "to blacken another's reputation" and "false or unjustified injury of the good reputation of another, as by slander or libel." In Muslim usage, defamation simply means anything that insults or offends Islamic sensibilities.

However, to gain traction among the international community, the OIC maintains that such laws should protect all religions from defamation, not just Islam. Accordingly, the OIC is agreeing that any expression that "slanders" the religious sentiments of others should be banned.

What, then, do we do with Islam's core religious texts—beginning with the Quran itself, which slanders, denigrates and blackens the reputation of other religions? Consider Christianity alone: Quran 5:73 declares that "Infidels are they who say Allah is one of three," a reference to the Christian Trinity; Quran 5:72 says "Infidels are they who say Allah is the Christ, [Jesus] son of Mary"; and Quran 9:30 complains that "the Christians say the Christ is the son of Allah … may Allah's curse be upon them!"

Considering that the word "infidel" (or kafir) is one of Islam's most derogatory terms, what if a Christian book or Western movie appeared declaring that "Infidels are they who say Muhammad is the prophet of God—may God's curse be upon them"? If Muslims would consider that a great defamation against Islam—and they would, with the attendant rioting, murders, etc.—then by the same standard it must be admitted that the Quran defames Christians and Christianity.

Similarly, consider how the Christian Cross, venerated among millions, is depicted—is defamed—in Islam: according to canonical hadiths, when he returns, Jesus supposedly will destroy all crosses; and Muhammad, who never allowed the cross in his presence, ordered someone wearing a cross to "take off that piece of idolatry."

What if Christian books or Western movies declared that the sacred things of Islam—say the Black Stone in the Ka'ba of Mecca—are "idolatry" and that Muhammad himself will return and destroy them? If Muslims would consider that defamation against Islam—and they would, with all the attendant rioting, murders, etc.—then by the same standard it must be admitted that the hadith defames the Christian Cross.

Here is a particularly odious form of defamation against Christian sentiment, especially to the millions of Catholic and Orthodox Christians. According to Islam's most authoritative Quranic exegetes, including the revered Ibn Kathir, Muhammad is in paradise married to and having sex with the Virgin Mary.

What if a Christian book or Western movie portrayed, say, Muhammad's wife, Aisha the "Mother of Believers," as being married to and having sex with a false prophet in heaven? If Muslims would consider that a great defamation against Islam—and they would, with all the attendant rioting, murders, etc.—then by the same standard it must be admitted that Islam's most authoritative Quranic exegetes defame the Virgin Mary.

Nor does such defamation of Christianity occur in Islam's ancient texts only; modern day Muslim scholars and sheikhs agree that it is permissible to defame Christianity. Qatar-based "Islam Web" even issued a fatwa that legitimizes insulting Christianity.

Now consider the wording used by Muslim leaders calling on the U.N. to enforce religious defamation laws in response to the Muhammad film on YouTube, and how these expressions can easily be used against Islam:

The OIC "deplored… an offensive and derogatory film on the life of Prophet Muhammad" and "called on the producers to show respect to the religious sentiments held sacred by Muslims and those of other faiths."

But what about the "offensive and derogatory" depictions of Christianity in Islam's core texts? Are Muslims willing to expunge these from the Quran and hadith, "to show respect to the religious sentiments held sacred … by those of other faiths," in this case, Christians?

Turkish Prime Minister Erodgan said the film "insults religions" (note the inclusive plural) and called for "international legal regulations against attacks on what people [not just Muslims] deem sacred."

Well, what about the fact that Islam "insults religions"—including Judaism and all polytheistic faiths? Should the West call for "international legal regulations against attacks on what people deem sacred," in the case of Christianity, regulations against Islam's teachings which attack the sanctity of Christ's divinity, the Cross, and Virgin Mary?

Even Saudi Arabia's Grand Mufti—who a few months ago called for the destruction of all Christian churches in the Arabian Peninsula (first reported here)—is now calling for a "global ban on insults targeting all" religious figures, while the Grand Imam of Egypt's Al Azhar is calling for "a U.N. resolution outlawing 'insulting symbols and sanctities of Islam' and other religions." Again, they, too, claim to be interested in banning insults to all religions, while ignoring the fact that their own religion is built atop insulting all other religions.

And surely this is the grandest irony of all: the "defamation" that Muslims complain about—and that prompts great violence and bloodshed around the world—revolves around things like movies and cartoons, which are made by individuals who represent only themselves; on the other hand, Islam itself, through its holiest and most authoritative texts, denigrates and condemns—in a word, defames—all other religions, not to mention calls for violence against them (e.g., Quran 9:29).

It is this issue, Islam's perceived "divine" right to defame and destroy, that the international community should be addressing—not silly cartoons and films.
 
show me the Ayats with full context which are defamatory to Judaism and Christianity.

oh yea my personal feeling is Jews are thankless creatuires , when europe was prosecuting them we the Muslims gave them refuge. but they are thankless yester day we were kind and we are suffering tommorow west will be saying same words.
I some time feel ashamed that I have Jewish blood in my Vains if the theory is true that Pashtuns are lost tribe of Israel.
 
Bill I am freaking out on your avatar.

Man that is what a healthy lion in his prime should look like.

I use to be under the misconception that tigers being lone hunters, in a one on one, would kick a lion's arse.

Till I one day had the opportunity of having a couple of drinks in Australia with a zoo vet at a common friend's party.

Its not even close!
 
Muslims call people of other religions as kafirs(infidels) is it not hate speech??
 
so what will you call Gentiles and Goyems?
are the Respectable words?

KAFIR MEANS the one who dont belive. and Its not a darogatery word as Islam dont belive in ZAAT PAAT(CASTE) and considers every human equal. See KHUTBA HAJJATUL WIDA.
where as according to TALMUD goyims are sub humans ment to seve israelis.

if not then dont fall pray to Jooish hate propoganda. Before Defaming and uttering venum against Islam as an Indian Look at the Ghrib Nawaz, Nizam uddin Aulia, Baba Faried.... All muslims and their love and contribution in Indian society. If you start judgeing people and nations on bases of minority, My friend then you have a psycological problem
 
so what will you call Gentiles and Goyems?
are the Respectable words?

KAFIR MEANS the one who dont belive. and Its not a darogatery word as Islam dont belive in ZAAT PAAT(CASTE) and considers every human equal. See KHUTBA HAJJATUL WIDA.
where as according to TALMUD goyims are sub humans ment to seve israelis.

if not then dont fall pray to Jooish hate propoganda. Before Defaming and uttering venum against Islam as an Indian Look at the Ghrib Nawaz, Nizam uddin Aulia, Baba Faried.... All muslims and their love and contribution in Indian society. If you start judgeing people and nations on bases of minority, My friend then you have a psycological problem

Where did i say anything about Indian muslims. Why are you bringing jews into this discussion?
Go through the below link and find out yourself

http://www.wvinter.net/~haught/Koran.html
 
should I give links about Hindu, Judaism where commandments are given about killings non Hindu's or goyims.

I dont want to answer you because I respect ur religon but never be in impression that we dont know about ur books.

The best way is to respect and get respect. Talk on politics, International issues but never insult religons or If you want then admit that u are frustrated loser who dwell in hate.

As a Jew posted an essay to critisize islam ,I responded in same manner.

secondly INDIAN MUSLIMS are Not MUSLIMS???????????
 
If this is indeed true, then practically would it not mean that if the ban is imposed, this would result in a worldwide ban on the Q'uran?
 
If this is indeed true, then practically would it not mean that if the ban is imposed, this would result in a worldwide ban on the Q'uran?

hmmm I think Bhagwat Gita , MahaBharat, Talmood ... all religous books will be banned. where as Quran will survive the Ban as read with context things are different then as propogated by Islamophobic people like you
 
hmmm I think Baghat geta , MahaBharat, Talmood ... all religous books will be banned. where as Quran will survive the Ban as read with context things are different then as propogated by Islamophobic people like you

Why do you get so defensive ? You do Islam no good by pointing fingers with accusations and hurling insults at other religions when people raise genuinely enquiring questions. If you cannot respond with an informative answer then refrain from responding. There are many intellectual Muslims on this forum who can responsibily counter the claims posted on this thread without making this seem a Taliban type Islam versus the rest of the world. Wake up
 
hmmm I think Baghat geta , MahaBharat, Talmood ... all religous books will be banned. where as Quran will survive the Ban as read with context things are different then as propogated by Islamophobic people like you

The Name is Bhagwat Gita.
 
Why do you get so defensive ? You do Islam no good by pointing fingers with accusations and hurling insults at other religions when people raise genuinely enquiring questions. If you cannot respond with an informative answer then refrain from responding. There are many intellectual Muslims on this forum who can responsibily counter the claims posted on this thread without making this seem a Taliban type Islam versus the rest of the world. Wake up

ok then allow me to respond in same manner as u are responding. and after that Dont cry.
secondly I am not defensive. I can talk in ur tone but I said Before I have many questions but will not ask because I respect ur religon and un like u I respect millions who follow ur religon and are not hare for malice.

SO SHOULD I LEAVE WAY OF GRACE AND JOIN U ON UR CHEAPNESS

The Name is Bhagwat Gita.

I apologize for the spell mistake and have edited it
thanks for pointing me out
 
See this moron who is he to say other religion are false. My foot, this type altitude and thoughts of illusions create lot issue in whole world, In every corner of world muslim having issue and creating problem whenever they increasing in number.

 
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