How Pakistan helped India during 1962 war with China

[Cr.7]

Your Indian IQ is showing.

We respect the sovereign nation of Pakistan and its borders.

We don't accept Indian neo-colonialists trying to claim our land by using British colonial lines



And you are worthless now, a country with more poverty than Africa and ruled by a non-Indian, a white European Catholic (Sonia).

Arhe mere chiney bhai, Akhey KHOLO, posting karne se pehle socha karo

 

[KRAIT]

Delusion at its finest.

Nobody in China cares about India enough to start any "conspiracies" against you.

Pakistan is essential to us for geopolitical reasons. (1) Gwadar port for an alternative to the Malacca straits, (2) a land-link to the Middle East for pipelines, (3) a method to ensure stability on our Xinjiang border, and most importantly (4) to act as our gateway into the resource-rich Muslim world.

Even a single one of those points above is more important to us then India, don't overestimate yourself.

That's the basis of your friendship rather than friendship and mutual respect. You ask Pakistan for take action against Islamic fundamentalist on their land which are causing trouble in Xinjiang province. Out of some many decades, you are now helping them with space program. Built JF-17 and Al Khalid co-jointly, coz now the need to access middle east is more than ever as China is expanding its influence in the area.

You think India overestimate themselves regarding China, NATO couldn't defeat Taliban in a decade, and here there is a country with with both you and us don't want any conflict, just trade relation, live and let live. Admit it or not, China is wary of India. Ex.- Why chinese channels and experts talked to much of Agni-5. We are behind you in many fields, but that doesn't mean we are not worthy adversaries. That's why leaders of both nations wants cordial relationship rather than strained one. Its international politics and I think you will grasp it.

Major contribution to Pakistan from China came after 2000 not before, i am not counting nuclear weapons or missiles coz there are no striking proofs and i don't believe in conspiracy theory btw it seems obvious to many people.

Strategically you want India to be on its toes from western side due to Pakistan and eastern side due to yo, same way India is doing to Pakistan by keeping them indulged in their eastern side, and increasing its influence in their western side to create conditions that worries Pakistan in Afghanistan.

There are no friends or allies, just strategic and economic partners in international level.

 

[kumarkumar1867]

I don't care about Zionism. The only thing about Israel that interests me is their Water Management technologies, which are amazing.

Did I say You care?? Keep Reading my post again & again.

Pakistan's definition of Zionist is - anything that doesnt agree with ISI, PA & their terroristic offsprings is Zionist.

Muslim Uyghur ethnic group is a new born child in china, let it flourish & then start it cleaning soon you will learn how you can be anti-muslim, zionist out of nothing.

Dont forget America was their Ally for 6 decades, now according to Zaki sir's statement 99% population is against their all weather ally.

 

[deep.ocean]

Arhe mere chiney bhai, Akhey KHOLO, posting karne se pehle socha karo

Hey mann what you did... Now he will start accusing us as racist.. and will start nuking this thread with copy pasted links..

 

[kumarkumar1867]

And you are worthless now, a country with more poverty than Africa and ruled by a non-Indian, a white European Catholic (Sonia).

Is this best that you can talk when you get out of logic. Or you can be more low life than this one??

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

That's the basis of your friendship rather than friendship and mutual respect. You ask Pakistan for take action against Islamic fundamentalist on their land which are causing trouble in Xinjiang province. Out of some many decades, you are now helping them with space program. Built JF-17 and Al Khalid co-jointly, coz now the need to access middle east is more than ever as China is expanding its influence in the area.

You think India overestimate themselves regarding China, NATO couldn't defeat Taliban in a decade, and here there is a country with with both you and us don't want any conflict, just trade relation, live and let live. Admit it or not, China is wary of India. Ex.- Why chinese channels and experts talked to much of Agni-5. We are behind you in many fields, but that doesn't mean we are not worthy adversaries. That's why leaders of both nations wants cordial relationship rather than strained one. Its international politics and I think you will grasp it.

Major contribution to Pakistan from China came after 2000 not before, i am not counting nuclear weapons or missiles coz there are no striking proofs and i don't believe in conspiracy theory btw it seems obvious to many people.

Strategically you want India to be on its toes from western side due to Pakistan and eastern side due to yo, same way India is doing to Pakistan by keeping them indulged in their eastern side, and increasing its influence in their western side to create conditions that worries Pakistan in Afghanistan.

There are no friends or allies, just strategic and economic partners in international level.

Yes, geopolitics is all about interests.

If India hates the Sino-Pakistani connection, then they should try to offer more to either side.

Or reduce the aligned interests between China and Pakistan regarding India, for example by solving the border dispute with one or the other.

Is this you best you can talk when you get out of logic. Or you can be more low life than this one??

Your friend deep.ocean was being rude, so now I have zero obligation to be polite in return.

 

[asad71]

It might be a one side but lets put this in grey area than black and white.

We Indians or may be Pakistanis (can't speak for them) plan future by cursing the far past. Its high time we should start thinking about the near future without hyphenating it to the far past and start doing right things in present. Small baby steps you know.

1. Peoples of SA have always wanted peace, progress, prosperity and friendship among themselves. We are not only neighbors but largely ethnic kin also. Instead our leaders have given us slaughter, hunger, poverty, animosity, mutual hatred and destruction.

2. An analysis of SA's history - and one has been done by Jaswant Singh, clearly points the finger of blame on the Hindu leadership of India. Having been subjugated for millenniums, the Hindu has found himself free at last. He feels unsure. He is skeptical, suspicious and nervous. He is ever on the guard to an extent much beyond necessity fearing the new found freedom may not be lost again.

3. Ayub in 1962 and Musharraf in 2001 had been sincere in proposing peace with India. In the first one a pompous Nehru had spurned Ayub. In Agra Bajpai and Musharraf were in agreement. A draft had been approved. But the Hindu hawks in Indian power corridors sabotaged this at the last moment causing an irate Musharraf to leave Agra before the schedule.

4. No, you cannot move forward without drawing your lessons from the past.

 

[KRAIT]

Yes, geopolitics is all about interests.

If India hates the Sino-Pakistani connection, then they should try to offer more to either side.

Or reduce the aligned interests between China and Pakistan regarding India, for example by solving the border dispute with one or the other.

They don't hate it , just concerned about transfer of weapons and co-development which is affecting India's edge over Pakistan. If China hadn't helped in JF-17 and AL Khalid, do you think India will be more worried....we will be having good sleep rather than working *** off to complete LCA, FGFA, Arjun MKII, AMCA, INS Vikadi, Rafale, IAC-1, IAC-2, Arihant, Akula and what not.

Resoltion of border disputes in our lifetime may be difficult, we just have to live the way it is....and increase our trade instead. We also want equal trade with China.Same is happening with Pakistan as they have given India MFN status.

In a way, your friendship has been a driving force for Indian defense expenditure for which atleast I thank you as it has made as formidable regional power. Thanks to china or babus are scared and trying to work things out in national interest.

 

[clmeta]

1. The onus for solving disputes does not lie with India alone.
2. India will never accept any solution that involves giving up its sovereignty and territorial integrity. For this if nation thinks India is an enemy we can't help. India never thought of Pakistan as an enemy. 99 % of Indians, Indian Media, Indian Politicians have never used the word enemy for Pakistan even though they believe Pakistan is sponsoring terror against India. Indians see China as a bigger powerful neighbour bent on containing India. The word hate is too strong. We don't hate anyone.

Yes, geopolitics is all about interests.

If India hates the Sino-Pakistani connection, then they should try to offer more to either side.

Or reduce the aligned interests between China and Pakistan regarding India, for example by solving the border dispute with one or the other.

 

[kumarkumar1867]

1. Peoples of SA have always wanted peace, progress, prosperity and friendship among themselves. We are not only neighbors but largely ethnic kin also. Instead our leaders have given us slaughter, hunger, poverty, animosity, mutual hatred and destruction.

Very True !

An analysis of SA's history - and one has been done by Jaswant Singh, clearly points the finger of blame on the Hindu leadership of India. Having been subjugated for millenniums, the Hindu has found himself free at last. He feels unsure. He is skeptical, suspicious and nervous. He is ever on the guard to an extent much beyond necessity fearing the new found freedom may not be lost again.

Yes, Peaceful Persian, moghuls, Turkish came and offered us flowers, made up our temples, gifted us with wealth & went back to their homes.
Its hindus who started bloodshed, ruined their cultural texts, mandirs,monastries & looted themselves & blamed it on muslim invaders & british oppresors.

Man, you need to smoke coffee, Indian subcontinent was a peaceful civilization not wary in the past so many war-mongers invaded it now having learnt our lessons from history, we indian (hindus & muslims) will never let foreign or external factors govern our interest or influence our regions. its simple & clear.

3. Ayub in 1962 and Musharraf in 2001 had been sincere in proposing peace with India. In the first one a pompous Nehru had spurned Ayub. In Agra Bajpai and Musharraf were in agreement. A draft had been approved. But the Hindu hawks in Indian power corridors sabotaged this at the last moment causing an irate Musharraf to leave Agra before the schedule.

Peace with what??

Right when Atal Bihari Vajpayee was travelling to Pakistan by BUS for peace talks & pacts between India & Pakistan in 2001,the jihadi insurgents were loading weapons & ammunitions on peaks of Kargil under supervision of PA/ISI.

No, you cannot move forward without drawing your lessons from the past.

Well You are a Bangladeshi, read the last line well & figure where you want to go yourself.

Remember your history,It was Muslim King from Bangladesh who brought british to India & it was hindus who liberated your land from british & also from west Pakistanis.

Liberators of Bangladesh will be ashamed of their lives & struggle to see how you people forgot your history.

 

[ajtr]

When was the last time India helped pakistan or if ever there was any such instance from india?one more instance of pakistani help to india was when benazir bhutto in her 1st term as PM helped india to put down khalistan movement.

 

[peep]

When was the last time India helped pakistan or if ever there was any such instance from india?one more instance of pakistani help to india was when benazir bhutto in her 1st term as PM helped india to put down khalistan movement.

India campaigned for a UN security council seat for pakistan.. although your khalistan movement claims need links to prove... mine needs none. Its a fact.

 

[xuxu1457]

And china's economy is how many times bigger than pakistani economy ?

That's normal. India is a democracy, its people aren't considered slave workers like in china
China is a dictatorship, the biggest dictatorship ever, so you can do whatever you want

It's not the case in india, a democracy, its people are free and can defend themselves

Any wrong can find a reason, and said proudly"bcs we are democracy", naive, "we power cut, bcs we are democracy, full talk about every power plant"; "we bad road, bcs we are democracy, every road should be full talk "; "we food short, bcs we are democracy....... "; It's the case in india, a democracy, its people are free but power cut,water cut, food short, bad road, poor, bcs we are democracy....

 

[Cr.7]

Any wrong can find a reason, and said proudly"bcs we are democracy", naive, "we power cut, bcs we are democracy, full talk about every power plant"; "we bad road, bcs we are democracy, every road should be full talk "; "we food short, bcs we are democracy....... "; It's the case in india, a democracy, its people are free but power cut,water cut, food short, bad road, poor, bcs we are democracy....

No you changed the discussion , you failed.
We are talking about workers/economy, liberty

 

[xuxu1457]

No you changed the discussion , you failed.
We are talking about workers/economy, liberty

Ok let's go on slaming Pak and China, others are all off topic