How much does the ISI know of CIA networks in Pakistan?

[khurasaan1]

we should all use common sense, who is behind letting CIA spread and web its complicated networks inside pakistan, CIA/mossad/MI6/blackwater must be fully disbanded, time is now, enough damage they have done

the CIA agents in our elites...especially Rehman Malik , Fauzia Wahab..etc etc....

 

[King Solomon]

@khurasaan. Indeed the likes of Satan Malik, Ghaddari and Hussain Haqqani are the biggest and the most dangerous CIA agents in Pakistan. Their time will surely come.

 

[Respect4Respect01]

Im sure that ISI keeps an eye on CIA. They should know a lot about CIA network in Pakistan. But they wont just tell you yet.

 

[a. hussain]

When the Pakistani govt. allowed visas for CIA officers, thats how far it was penetrated.

Hi, to my Pakistani Brothers. In my opinion ISI must have been an effective tool to safeguard Pakistan's interests but then some question arises i.e.
1. If it has an effective network through out the country then why for more than a decade no solid proofs are presented to the world to show the hidden hands. We claim that there are antipakistani forces involved (Both Internal & External players) but why no major culprits have been apprehanded & presented?
2. What is the role of MI? Is there any conflict or proper working relationship b/w ISI & MI? Why despite presence of these sound agencies anti-pak elements are growing and rising within the society and in our key defence institutions? Is it due to our Govt. Policies or Is there something grossly wrong with our mind-set/ environment?
3. If foreign agencies have hands in destroying & disrupting the whole of pakistan & its nationals i.e. No city or Town or Institution/ Our assets are safe from their reach? Which shows how deeply they have penetrated us? Why we have not been able to counter their evil advances/ activities?
In this regard a point to consider is that 'if we accept that Pakistan was involved in Kashmir or Indian Punjab - Self determination/ Freedom movements so it shows that we were just restricting our area of activities to only a part of India with may be some occassional cases here & there (If Pak. agencies were involved). But when you compare the counter approach adopted by Indian agency (RAW) it is altogether a different one as it has opened a much broader play ground by playing all over Pakistan with the help of other antipakistani elements including other devlish agencies. In this regard do ISI have to revisit its Planning & Operational approach.
There are no. of considerations and questions which arises and need to be explored. I hope someone with much knowledge and analytical understanding might enlighten with his/ her feedback.

Thanks

 

[53fd]

Hi, to my Pakistani Brothers. In my opinion ISI must have been an effective tool to safeguard Pakistan's interests but then some question arises i.e.
1. If it has an effective network through out the country then why for more than a decade no solid proofs are presented to the world to show the hidden hands. We claim that there are antipakistani forces involved (Both Internal & External players) but why no major culprits have been apprehanded & presented?

The ISI is like a silent assassin, it operates extremely discretely, & most people in Pakistan are not even aware of its presence inside Pakistan, but they know its there of course. The ISI interacts directly with other intelligence agencies, & doesn't give out proofs to the media. No one really knows anything about the ISI, Pakistanis don't know about it, the media doesn't know about it, they just keep hearing that its an extremely powerful entity. The intelligence agencies the ISI interacts with know about it only, & have an extreme contempt for it.

2. What is the role of MI? Is there any conflict or proper working relationship b/w ISI & MI? Why despite presence of these sound agencies anti-pak elements are growing and rising within the society and in our key defence institutions? Is it due to our Govt. Policies or Is there something grossly wrong with our mind-set/ environment?

3. If foreign agencies have hands in destroying & disrupting the whole of pakistan & its nationals i.e. No city or Town or Institution/ Our assets are safe from their reach? Which shows how deeply they have penetrated us? Why we have not been able to counter their evil advances/ activities?
In this regard a point to consider is that 'if we accept that Pakistan was involved in Kashmir or Indian Punjab - Self determination/ Freedom movements so it shows that we were just restricting our area of activities to only a part of India with may be some occassional cases here & there (If Pak. agencies were involved). But when you compare the counter approach adopted by Indian agency (RAW) it is altogether a different one as it has opened a much broader play ground by playing all over Pakistan with the help of other antipakistani elements including other devlish agencies. In this regard do ISI have to revisit its Planning & Operational approach.
There are no. of considerations and questions which arises and need to be explored. I hope someone with much knowledge and analytical understanding might enlighten with his/ her feedback.

Thanks

These are questions no one but the ISI has answers for, & they keep these things to themselves.

 

[S.M.R]

In my view ISI is fully aware of all the CIA networks, even the proper monitoring system is always active. Just take the recent cases as example. I.e. RD, false number plate vehicles in Islamabad and peshawar etc. It keep following them and when they seem crossing their limits, they are stopped through police and / or other means. Those two guys were definitely ISI informers on duty but unexpectedly shot dead by RD. That was the anger that ISI didnt let run RD from the spot, even after attempt. ISI silently works with achievement of goals at any cost in its mind, that is the quality which differentiates it from intel agencies of rest of the world.

 

[King Solomon]

The CIA's network of foreigners for HUMINT has been considerably decreased in Pakistan, not completely. However, local recruits number in the hundreds and thousands, approximately 6000 which includes HUMINT by the TTP and "Al Qaeda".

Little known is the fact that ISI has a large foreign network as well.

- Recent busting of Israeli covert commando unit Sayaret Matkal in egypt was by intelligence provided by ISI.

- Arrest by Iran of Jundullah brothers (rigi) was also by intelligence provided.

- Recent arrest of Mohammad Niaz in France who was heading a RAW sponsored terror network.

- Pakistan's information about Israeli Mossad operating in Iraq against Iran posing as "Sunnis" (to create sectarian war, averted by Pakistan).

- Saudi Arabia has reportedly been provided with some Nuclear devices to use against Israel in case of a unconventional war, the Nukes are totally in control of Pakistani forces, their security and maintenance is provided by Pakistan.

- Elite troops of retired Pakistan armed forces and SSG personnel have been stationed since long across the Arab states for surveillance and analysis of security threats and counter-response strategies in case of red alert. They are known as Greenwater Elites and are assigned as an Islamic taskforce especially for the protection of Hijaz (Makkah and Madinah). Details are classified.

^ The above may seem like fairytale, but its true.

 

[53fd]

The CIA's network of foreigners for HUMINT has been considerably decreased in Pakistan, not completely. However, local recruits number in the hundreds and thousands, approximately 6000 which includes HUMINT by the TTP and "Al Qaeda".

Little known is the fact that ISI has a large foreign network as well.

- Recent busting of Israeli covert commando unit Sayaret Matkal in egypt was by intelligence provided by ISI.

- Arrest by Iran of Jundullah brothers (rigi) was also by intelligence provided.

- Recent arrest of Mohammad Niaz in France who was heading a RAW sponsored terror network.

- Pakistan's information about Israeli Mossad operating in Iraq against Iran posing as "Sunnis" (to create sectarian war, averted by Pakistan).

- Saudi Arabia has reportedly been provided with some Nuclear devices to use against Israel in case of a unconventional war, the Nukes are totally in control of Pakistani forces, their security and maintenance is provided by Pakistan.

- Elite troops of retired Pakistan armed forces and SSG personnel have been stationed since long across the Arab states for surveillance and analysis of security threats and counter-response strategies in case of red alert. They are known as Greenwater Elites and are assigned as an Islamic taskforce especially for the protection of Hijaz (Makkah and Madinah). Details are classified.

^ The above may seem like fairytale, but its true.

I actually recognize a lot of these feats, reading about them in different news reports, from various sources. I just recalled these achievements of the ISI after reading your post. Excellent post. If this is what is known about the ISI, & judging on the extremely stealth & discrete nature of the ISI, just imagine what else they have been doing that isn't being noticed by others.

 

[Last Hope]

We do know about most of the network and are rounding up the agents without much media coverage.
Can not specify more, but ISI has its departments looking and searching for 'illegal' agents, and if some of them are probably reading this, those illegal agents (or the ones suspected to be) are under 24/7 spy by Iner-Services-Intelligence.

Although ISI doesn't know about all, they are working to trace them.
Source: My official/unofficial links with the ISI.

 

[53fd]

We do know about most of the network and are rounding up the agents without much media coverage.
Can not specify more, but ISI has its departments looking and searching for 'illegal' agents, and if some of them are probably reading this, those illegal agents (or the ones suspected to be) are under 24/7 spy by Iner-Services-Intelligence.

Although ISI doesn't know about all, they are working to trace them.
Source: My official/unofficial links with the ISI.

Yes, even I have some unofficial family friends links with some officers there, so I have a brief idea about what's going on. There's no point really going into the details. But the ISI is doing what it is best at: being discreet. The ISI is one of the most intriguing institutions in the world in my opinion.

 

[AAtish]

Simple solution of CIA problem..

Target killers in Pakistan, and they are haqqani network, MQM, BLA, and Indian Agents right? so no one can blame Pakistan for any "mishap"..