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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-spacex-elon-musk-russia-20180207-story.html

Leonid Bershidsky
Nowhere did Tuesday's launch of SpaceX's Falcon Heavy rocket echo as powerfully as in Russia. The private U.S. company continues to produce technical feats on which the Russian space industry has given up: First the consistent reuse of rockets, and now the successful launch of a rocket with as many as 27 engines.

The Soviet Union tried something similar in the 1960s and early 1970s. Sergei Korolev, the rocket designer who launched the first satellite and the first man into space, began the development of what came to be known as the N-1, a 30-engine superheavy rocket capable of taking a 75-ton space station to orbit and perhaps to the Moon, Mars and Venus. Finished after Korolev's death in 1966, the N-1 was test-launched four times. Each of the launches failed, largely because of the difficulty of running so many engines at the same time.

Now SpaceX has pulled off a similar task, and even though it's not clear yet who will contract for the Falcon Heavy's services, SpaceX founder Elon Musk now has the most capable missile in the world: It can deliver up to 64 tons into orbit. Russia's plans to build such a rocket, capable of flying to the Moon or to Mars, aren't even complete yet, and certainly not fully funded, though Igor Komarov, head of Roskosmos, the Russian space agency, has promised a first launch in 2028. Even China is likely to have a superheavy launch vehicle before Russia. But it's the success of upstart Musk that smarts. Roskosmos has the full power of the state behind it, after all. And yet here's this boyish-looking showman launching his roadster into space, David Bowie blasting from the car's speakers and "Don't Panic" — a quote from Douglas Adams' "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" — lit up on the central console.

The corniness didn't make it less bitter. Russians laugh when it hurts and there were plenty of Russian memes that gamely acknowledged defeat by suggesting what Russia could have launched into space in place of a Tesla Roadster:

But the undertone is serious. Vitaly Egorov, spokesman for Dauria Aerospace, a private Russian satellite manufacturer that works with Roskosmos, posted bitterly on Facebook:

"In fact, Musk hasn't done anything fantastical. Korolev has done this kind of thing, and so did [rocket engine designer Valentin] Glushko. Soviets did it, and Russians can do it too. But now we're onlookers and we see it as the stuff of fantasy. Many people have asked me: "Could we replicate the success of SpaceX?" Technically, we can. In the final accounting, landing a stage or making a superheavy rocket is a mathematical task, and we aren't out of mathematicians. What we are out of is dreamers. To know how to fly and where to fly, we need to know why we're flying."

Musk, with his crude salesmanship and nerdish cultural references, has a dream, described in a white paper he published last year: to colonize Mars. Musk admitted in the white paper that was his only motivation for getting rich.

Russia doesn't really have a dreamer to match. It has Dmitri Rogozin, the nationalist deputy prime minister in charge of the defense and aerospace industry, who publicly squabbled with the Roskosmos management after the latest launch failure in November. Roskosmos officials hired a private Gulfstream jet to fly to the launch from a new pad in Russia's Far East, but the Soyuz rocket, carrying 18 satellites, burned up in the atmosphere. Rogozin then accused Roskosmos of programming the Fregat upper stage for a launch from a different pad. "One tailor sews the pocket, another the lapel, but the suit doesn't work as a whole," Rogozin said. Roskosmos denied making the error. But, after a series of criminal investigations in the Russian aerospace industry — with cases including the improper use of cheap components in building rockets — not even the silliest explanations are out of the question.

Ever since the Soviet Union's collapse, the Russian space program has been run pragmatically for cash. Using time-tested technology, Russia seized leadership in the commercial launch market. But SpaceX's persistence and ingenuity, and its success in bringing down costs by reusing rockets, made it the likely market leader last year and possibly even profitable. The Falcon 9 was certainly the most successfully-launched rocket in the world.

Roskosmos has acknowledged the SpaceX threat, which it spent years pooh-poohing, and is working to reduce launch costs by 20 percent and reuse rocket components. But Musk's company is ahead of the game for now, and it won't be easy to catch.

Many Russians who are jealous of Musk's success point out that he hasn't gotten where he is without government support — technical assistance from NASA as well as billions in government subsidies. But the rest of the U.S. aerospace industry gets lots of government money, too, and so do European, Chinese, Japanese and Indian space programs. Egorov probably put his finger on the difference. The private passion of a socially clumsy, irritating, science fiction-reading, electric roadster-driving geek has done more to establish SpaceX's leadership than any state support could have done. The dream behind the engineering and the enterprise may not look as serious as the state considerations of Rogozin and Komarov — but it sure helps propel some heavy objects into space.
 
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Russia has launched 1000+ Missions
Elon Musk , has not even launched 1 manned mission

Reality
 
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who cares about manned missions right now other than landing on mars?

What spaceX has done is revolutionary because of the reduced costs in launching stuff into space. Something like 10 times cheaper than other competitors.

Also the Falcon Heavy can carry more than any other rocket and can fly further than any rocket.
 
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I wonder how the publisher forgot about Energia or Saturn V both of them were a lot stronger , they both are retired but not because they failed ,there were no demand for them but both USA and Russia did it before Space-x and they did it 50 years ago

i wonder how SpaceX would have managed if they wanted to build their launcher by half a century old technologies ?
 
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With all due respect to Elon Musk, SpaceX doesn't even comes close compared to the milestones Russian (Soviet) space program achieved during Cold War, with computers less powerful than an average smartphone today.
 
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Space Race is endless. The poorest country on earth could be a leading space power in 500 years time. Statements like USA won the space race is premature.
 
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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-spacex-elon-musk-russia-20180207-story.html

Leonid Bershidsky
Nowhere did Tuesday's launch of SpaceX's Falcon Heavy rocket echo as powerfully as in Russia. The private U.S. company continues to produce technical feats on which the Russian space industry has given up: First the consistent reuse of rockets, and now the successful launch of a rocket with as many as 27 engines.

The Soviet Union tried something similar in the 1960s and early 1970s. Sergei Korolev, the rocket designer who launched the first satellite and the first man into space, began the development of what came to be known as the N-1, a 30-engine superheavy rocket capable of taking a 75-ton space station to orbit and perhaps to the Moon, Mars and Venus. Finished after Korolev's death in 1966, the N-1 was test-launched four times. Each of the launches failed, largely because of the difficulty of running so many engines at the same time.

Now SpaceX has pulled off a similar task, and even though it's not clear yet who will contract for the Falcon Heavy's services, SpaceX founder Elon Musk now has the most capable missile in the world: It can deliver up to 64 tons into orbit. Russia's plans to build such a rocket, capable of flying to the Moon or to Mars, aren't even complete yet, and certainly not fully funded, though Igor Komarov, head of Roskosmos, the Russian space agency, has promised a first launch in 2028. Even China is likely to have a superheavy launch vehicle before Russia. But it's the success of upstart Musk that smarts. Roskosmos has the full power of the state behind it, after all. And yet here's this boyish-looking showman launching his roadster into space, David Bowie blasting from the car's speakers and "Don't Panic" — a quote from Douglas Adams' "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" — lit up on the central console.

The corniness didn't make it less bitter. Russians laugh when it hurts and there were plenty of Russian memes that gamely acknowledged defeat by suggesting what Russia could have launched into space in place of a Tesla Roadster:

But the undertone is serious. Vitaly Egorov, spokesman for Dauria Aerospace, a private Russian satellite manufacturer that works with Roskosmos, posted bitterly on Facebook:

"In fact, Musk hasn't done anything fantastical. Korolev has done this kind of thing, and so did [rocket engine designer Valentin] Glushko. Soviets did it, and Russians can do it too. But now we're onlookers and we see it as the stuff of fantasy. Many people have asked me: "Could we replicate the success of SpaceX?" Technically, we can. In the final accounting, landing a stage or making a superheavy rocket is a mathematical task, and we aren't out of mathematicians. What we are out of is dreamers. To know how to fly and where to fly, we need to know why we're flying."

Musk, with his crude salesmanship and nerdish cultural references, has a dream, described in a white paper he published last year: to colonize Mars. Musk admitted in the white paper that was his only motivation for getting rich.

Russia doesn't really have a dreamer to match. It has Dmitri Rogozin, the nationalist deputy prime minister in charge of the defense and aerospace industry, who publicly squabbled with the Roskosmos management after the latest launch failure in November. Roskosmos officials hired a private Gulfstream jet to fly to the launch from a new pad in Russia's Far East, but the Soyuz rocket, carrying 18 satellites, burned up in the atmosphere. Rogozin then accused Roskosmos of programming the Fregat upper stage for a launch from a different pad. "One tailor sews the pocket, another the lapel, but the suit doesn't work as a whole," Rogozin said. Roskosmos denied making the error. But, after a series of criminal investigations in the Russian aerospace industry — with cases including the improper use of cheap components in building rockets — not even the silliest explanations are out of the question.

Ever since the Soviet Union's collapse, the Russian space program has been run pragmatically for cash. Using time-tested technology, Russia seized leadership in the commercial launch market. But SpaceX's persistence and ingenuity, and its success in bringing down costs by reusing rockets, made it the likely market leader last year and possibly even profitable. The Falcon 9 was certainly the most successfully-launched rocket in the world.

Roskosmos has acknowledged the SpaceX threat, which it spent years pooh-poohing, and is working to reduce launch costs by 20 percent and reuse rocket components. But Musk's company is ahead of the game for now, and it won't be easy to catch.

Many Russians who are jealous of Musk's success point out that he hasn't gotten where he is without government support — technical assistance from NASA as well as billions in government subsidies. But the rest of the U.S. aerospace industry gets lots of government money, too, and so do European, Chinese, Japanese and Indian space programs. Egorov probably put his finger on the difference. The private passion of a socially clumsy, irritating, science fiction-reading, electric roadster-driving geek has done more to establish SpaceX's leadership than any state support could have done. The dream behind the engineering and the enterprise may not look as serious as the state considerations of Rogozin and Komarov — but it sure helps propel some heavy objects into space.

China's Long March 5B lifted the new generation Space capsule weighing 21,600 kg to LEO in May 2020 successfully. Has Falcon Heavy lifted anything like that yet ? Anything over 20,000 kg ?

Just asking.
 
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How Elon Musk beat Russia's space program

China's Long March 5B lifted the new generation Space capsule weighing 21,600 kg to LEO in May 2020 successfully. Has Falcon Heavy lifted anything like that yet ? Anything over 20,000 kg ?

What does this have to do with the OP topic of Russia? The author is Russian BTW.

 
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A world infested by evil lying thieving Nazi fascists who infest a nation as beggars then turn traitor to loot it via credit, hot potato, poisoning citizens and money printing. Much like the parasite Ra did to Osiris in Egypt. Left the world in ruins and most people dead. Nazis don't care, more for them if everyone else is dead.
 
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