How come Japan is not capable to build large Jets ?

[Developereo]

The same applies to jumbo jets. We live in a global economy. Just because a nation can build and sell something, doesn't mean they can do so successfully against established and stiff competition. Excluding the USSR for a moment, Boeing had only one real competitor in the 1960's, and that was Douglas aircraft (which became McDonnell-Douglas). Boeing crushed Douglas with brilliant designs like the 7X7 series.

Along comes Airbus, a European consortium. It took massive government subsidies, and the sales of Airbus jets below cost, to become competitive with Boeing. Now, they are, and produce a fine aircraft, but it was a very difficult start-up.

Japan has (IMO) the technical expertise to do just about anything, from making nukes to spacecraft. The simply choose not to do much of this. Just because a nation can do something, doesn't mean they must.

That's the key point.

I remember Boeing and the US government complained very loudly about the huge government subsidies to prop up Airbus. Boeing was able to compete only because it is such a huge and established player in the market.

The Japanese can build a large commercial airliner, but they would have a hard time staying competitive. China, on the other hand, has a huge domestic market and deep pockets, so it can mount a successful bid against Boeing and Airbus. The only issue will be establishing a reputation.

 

[Hafizzz]

Let me give an example.

Who makes the most large cargo ships in the world?


It's not the US, it's not China. It's South Korea. By a WIDE margin.

Shipbuilding - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Does this mean the U.S. cannot build large cargo/container ships? Of course not. We build nuclear aircraft carriers. But economically, South Korea does it better. It is cheaper to buy them from South Korea than produce them in the U.S.

The same applies to jumbo jets. We live in a global economy. Just because a nation can build and sell something, doesn't mean they can do so successfully against established and stiff competition. Excluding the USSR for a moment, Boeing had only one real competitor in the 1960's, and that was Douglas aircraft (which became McDonnell-Douglas). Boeing crushed Douglas with brilliant designs like the 7X7 series.

Along comes Airbus, a European consortium. It took massive government subsidies, and the sales of Airbus jets below cost, to become competitive with Boeing. Now, they are, and produce a fine aircraft, but it was a very difficult start-up.

Japan has (IMO) the technical expertise to do just about anything, from making nukes to spacecraft. The simply choose not to do much of this. Just because a nation can do something, doesn't mean they must.

Blame the author of the News article. He said Japan, S. Korea and Indonesia all failed to build their own commercial Jets.

"Failed" = Have tried but did not succeed.

 

[Chogy]

Blame the author of the News article. He said Japan, S. Korea and Indonesia all failed to build their own commercial Jets.

"Failed" = Have tried but did not succeed.

In English, failed does not always equal attempted. I agree it usually implies it, but it's not a 100% thing.

Semantically, I can say "I failed to get the oil changed in the car today" meaning I had meant to, but forgot. No attempt made.

If the Japanese had a burning desire to build the equivalent of a 777 or A-330, they could. It would be a waste of money, but they have the technology.

Engines are always the wild card. It might take many, many years to produce the equivalent of a Rolls-Royce Trent engine.

 

[nightcrawler]

With the size Japan has; for the national flights I would recommend propeller driver planes

 

[MYSTIC]

How come a "High Tech" country such as Japan cannot build her own Large Jet ? And same question for S. Korea !

Lack of resources could be a major reason. Airbus is made with components from all over europe and assembled through many countries. Japan is a very small country and is already to doing exceptionally well in all fields of business.

ECON101 tells us that countries should manufacture products in which they have a competitive advantage over others. For Japan it is electronics and automobiles.

 

[MYSTIC]

How come a "High Tech" country such as Japan cannot build her own Large Jet ? And same question for S. Korea !

Lack of resources could be a major reason. Airbus is made with components from all over europe and assembled through many countries. Japan is a very small country and is already to doing exceptionally well in all fields of business.

ECON101 tells us that countries should manufacture products in which they have a competitive advantage over others. For Japan it is electronics and automobiles.

 

[qwerrty]

i believe japan is more than capable of making large aircraft..

MRJ bags $4 Billion order from US carrier

TOKYO - An ambitious project to build Japan's first ever passenger jet received a huge boost Friday, landing a 100-plane order worth up to four billion dollars from a US regional airline.

*ttp://www.eturbonews.com/12112/mrj-bags-4-billion-order-us-carrier

Bombardier's CSeries to face Japanese competitor, the YPX

Japan's Kawasaki Heavy Industries, maker of fuselage sections for Boeing's 787 Dreamliner, is working on designs for a competitor to Bombardier Inc.'s 110-149 seater CSeries commercial airliner.

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