How Bhutto wrecked a Kashmir solution

[Guynextdoor]

How Bhutto wrecked a Kashmir solution

There was only one period of four months, between December 1962 and March 1963, when there could have been a peaceful, negotiated settlement of the Kashmir dispute. India had just been humiliated in the autumn 1962 war against China, changing equations in the region. Pakistan used the Indo-China breach to its advantage, ceding China's border claims in Kashmiri territory under its control to initiate an alliance that has held for more than four decades. Britain and America persuaded Pakistan not to open a second front while Indian troops were retreating along the Himalayas in 1962, and Pakistan wanted compensation for good behaviour.

Bhutto, then Ayub Khan's young foreign minister, led the Pakistan delegation; the elderly Swaran Singh headed the Indian side. Talks were held in Rawalpindi, Delhi, Karachi and Calcutta. Both sides agreed that Kashmir should be divided, and India offered 1,500 square miles to seal the deal. Bhutto was contemptuous of this gesture from a 'defeated nation'. He demanded the whole of the Valley, graciously leaving only the small district of Kathua for India.


How Bhutto wrecked a Kashmir solution - The Times of India

I know that there are many pak people who are infatuated with Bhuttto but it can't be ignored that he was full of himself and this kind of 'contempt' and stuff was very natural to him, and he more than anyone else led you guys to 1971.

 

[Guynextdoor]

No. India would have invaded Kashmir illegally like they invaded Hyderabad and Junagadh.

They were legal occupations. We don't have to jistify throwing out rulers who no longer had the trust of the people. We don't have to respect anyone's 'historic rights'. They were little hindrances in the path of our glorious historic revolution.

 

[PRACTICAL PATRIOT]

bhutto was a RAW agent too. hence he didnt accept such a nice offer.lol

 

[luckyyy]

most of pakistani saying they lost a chance by verture of butto......but i think there is still time.......i must say accept LOC as international boundery ......... after another 25 year , might be even this be a lost chance..coz kashmir is a dragon whose face is towards pakistan and eating it gradually......kashmir is eating pakistani youth in every city , in every islamic teaching school......

 

[FreekiN]

can someone highlight on this map over paint, what was offered?

 

[Nair saab]

can someone highlight on this map over paint, what was offered?

The brown part marked as Aksai Chin was offered But since it was under chinese control bhutto refused the offer jk

 

[pak-marine]

Bhutto, then Ayub Khan's young foreign minister

it was ayub ,bhutto wasnt the decision maker here it was mr no good feild marshal

 

[aakash_2410]

No. India would have invaded Kashmir illegally like they invaded Hyderabad and Junagadh.

'Adha sach juth se bhi khatarnak!!'
Actually hyderabad's nizam didn't sign his province with pakistan either he was going to announce it a free sovereign country. And pro-pakistani [pro-pakistani not pakistani] province in middle of india can not even be imagined from indian point of view so our forces annexed it and joined it with indian sangh like its' public wanted it.
And junagadh same case. 90% hindus wanted to join with indian sangh so we annexed it as well just like you did with kashmir but kashmir's public didn't even want to join with pak.

 

[Majnun]

'Adha sach juth se bhi khatarnak!!'
Actually hyderabad's nizam didn't sign his province with pakistan either he was going to announce it a free sovereign country. And pro-pakistani [pro-pakistani not pakistani] province in middle of india can not even be imagined from indian point of view so our forces annexed it and joined it with indian sangh like its' public wanted it.
And junagadh same case. 90% hindus wanted to join with indian sangh so we annexed it as well just like you did with kashmir but kashmir's public didn't even want to join with pak.

Bullshit. What was your Army doing in Kashmir then?

 

[jbond197]

Bullshit. What was your Army doing in Kashmir then?

IA was called in by the ruler of Kashmir to check the invasion of irregulars supported by Pakistan army. Believe me, had there been even a small amount of Kashmiri support for the Pakistani invasion back then, I am sure Pakistani offensive would have been more successful. But sadly for you, that was not the case and IA arrived at time and halted you from entering Srinagar.

 

[rubyjackass]

Whose effect gets nullified after the pakistani leadership shows its brilliance like......
1.Had Jinnah been little more Patient Pakistan would have got kashmir through accession.

2. other example is as of quoted above in news.
3. is of siachin.
4.assam

what did their leadership do with regards to sicahin and assam?