Hizbullah Is No Longer A Resistance Organization, But An Occupier And Target For Resistance

[Brooklyn]

The article doesn't appear to support your assertion.

Are you sure you actually read the article?

<According to a very senior source in the Israeli Military of Defence the weapons deal with Iran were fraudulent. With each of the six joint projects, the Israelis planned to deceive the Iranians by providing them only an outdated version of the weapon in question, while using Iranian money to build a new generation for Israel's exclusive use.>

From the article.

 

[Solomon2]

Are you sure you actually read the article?

<According to a very senior source in the Israeli Military of Defence the weapons deal with Iran were fraudulent. With each of the six joint projects, the Israelis planned to deceive the Iranians by providing them only an outdated version of the weapon in question, while using Iranian money to build a new generation for Israel's exclusive use.>

From the article.

Yup. Pretty iffy to label such an effort "fraudulent", isn't it? Since the source isn't checkable this ranks as an anti-Israel smear right now, rather than fact. Also, I found other articles citing the same sources Wikipedia uses that did not use the term, "fraudulent". A decent news organization would have obtained documentation or verified the story with at least one other source before publishing such.

You've gotten way off the subject of Hizbullah. I presume doing so is on purpose.

 

[Bilad al-Haramayn]

There are many reasons why Hezbollah has lost tremendous support in recent years. They went from being arguably the most popular resistance movement in 2006 amidst the Lebanon War to being widely disliked/hated by the vast majority of the 450 million Arabs after their involvement in Syria. That involvement showed their true colors for all to see and most importantly their regional agenda.

Hezbollah remains a popular movement only among the 45 million or so Shia Arabs and specific political fractions within Lebanon and Palestine.

Their fatal decision to involve themselves in the Syrian conflict caused serious internal divisions that are still felt to this day. Hezbollah will never again be an widely supported Arab organization (they lived on that support on almost every front) but if the people of Southern Lebanon want to live under their rule forever then so be it. I just know that all other parts of Lebanon are thankful not to be ruled by them.

As an Arab I obviously sympathize with the people of Southern Lebanon and want the best for them but my support and sympathy for Hezbollah ended after their involvement in Syria.

 

[Solomon2]

There are many reasons why Hezbollah has lost tremendous support in recent years. They went from being arguably the most popular resistance movement in 2006 amidst the Lebanon War -

Did you forget that the Saudi King condemned Hezbollah's 2006 actions - kidnapping Israeli soldiers and rocketing Israeli civilians - in these terms:

...THE KINGDOM WOULD LIKE TO CLEARLY ANNOUNCE THAT A DIFFERENCE SHOULD BE DRAWN BETWEEN LEGITIMATE RESISTANCE AND RASH ADVENTURES CARRIED OUT BY ELEMENTS INSIDE THE STATE AND THOSE BEHIND THEM WITHOUT CONSULTATION WITH THE LEGITIMATE AUTHORITY IN THEIR STATE AND WITHOUT CONSULTATION OR COORDINATION WITH ARAB COUNTRIES, THUS CREATING A GRAVELY DANGEROUS SITUATION EXPOSING ALL ARAB COUNTRIES AND ITS ACHIEVEMENTS TO DESTRUCTION WITH THOSE COUNTRIES HAVING NO SAY.
THE KINGDOM VIEWS THAT IT IS TIME THAT THESE ELEMENTS ALONE BEAR THE FULL RESPONSIBILITY OF THESE IRRESPONSIBLE ACTS AND SHOULD ALONE SHOULDER THE BURDEN OF ENDING THE CRISIS THEY HAVE CREATED.

 

[Bilad al-Haramayn]

@Solomon2

Did you forget that public statements by regimes in the Arab and Muslim world (in fact the world as a whole) do not necessarily equal the opinions of the citizens?

Rest assured that almost everybody in KSA was supporting Hezbollah in 2006. Not only KSA but the entire Arab world. Just like the entire Arab world (there are of course always exceptions for whatever reasons) supports the plight of the Palestinians.

Just because many Arab countries and Sunni Arabs as a whole have grievances with the Iranian regime and their supporters (due to their policy in the region) it does not mean that this will continue forever or that people have started to like the Zionists that are in power in Israel. You are greatly mistaken if you believe so.

 

[Solomon2]

Did you forget that public statements by regimes in the Arab and Muslim world (in fact the world as a whole) do not necessarily equal the opinions of the citizens?

No. But I needed you to say that, to testify that the opinions of the Arab populace are much more viciously antisemitic than those of their rulers.

Thank you.

...it does not mean that this will continue forever or that people have started to like the Zionists that are in power in Israel.

I imagine that when baseless hate is inculcated so young, generation after generation, it's not easy to drop it, either in whole or in part, even if one wants to. Pride. Embarrassment. Fear of acknowledging personal and collective responsibility, or retaliation from larger society. Used to argue about this in college: the Indian Muslim member insisted that it was morally O.K. to fib to the next generation to maintain or extend one's standing, wealth, or power, and the Palestinian Arab agreeing, though adding that Islam was Arab's religion, and thus Arabs could do with it whatever they wanted, but not non-Arabs.

 

[Serpentine]

No. But I needed you to say that, to testify that the opinions of the Arab populace are much more viciously antisemitic than those of their rulers.

Being against Israel is a moral obligation, not antisemitism. Antisemitism is the most abused word in the world along with the word terrorism. Playing the victim only works for a certain time. Zionists have been milking the world in the name of Holocaust for 7 decades, eventually people (all people I mean) will understand their true nature and give them the treatment they truly deserve.

 

[Bilad al-Haramayn]

No. But I needed you to say that, to testify that the opinions of the Arab populace are much more viciously antisemitic than those of their rulers.

Thank you.

I imagine that when baseless hate is inculcated so young, generation after generation, it's not easy to drop it, either in whole or in part, even if one wants to. Pride. Embarrassment. Fear of acknowledging personal and collective responsibility, or retaliation from larger society. Used to argue about this in college: the Indian Muslim member insisted that it was morally O.K. to fib to the next generation to maintain or extend one's standing, wealth, or power, and the Palestinian Arab agreeing, though adding that Islam was Arab's religion, and thus Arabs could do with it whatever they wanted, but not non-Arabs.

Arabs as a whole view Zionism and Zionists negatively indeed. No sane person could possibly blame them for that.
Not Jews as a people or Judaism. How could Arabs be against Jews as a race when half of the world's Jews have ancestral ties to the Arab world? Arabs and Jews have lived together for millennia and have much in common.
The animosity that you see today towards Israel and Zionists is a consequence of Israel's state policies towards Palestine, the wider Arab world (I refuse to believe that Zionist-dominated Israel wants the best for its Arab neighbors) and the nature of Israel's foundation as a country.
The right-wing Israelis who dominate Israeli politics, business and the military would love nothing more than to kill off all Palestinians, steal their land (which they are occupying and doing while we speak in the West Bank) and preferably naturalize all other Arabs and Muslims.

Israel and Zionists know what to do if they want to have better relations with their Arab neighbors, the Arab world as a whole and the Muslim world as a whole.

 

[Pandora]

Looks like @Solomon2 is having another islamophobic and pro israeili day. Mate if you cant think up about posting anything other than islamophobic threads to please jewish israeil then you are suffering obsessive compulsive disorder. Go see yourself a doctor.

 

[The Sandman]

Looks like @Solomon2 is having another islamophobic and pro israeili day. Mate if you cant think up about posting anything other than islamophobic threads to please jewish israeil then you are suffering obsessive compulsive disorder. Go see yourself a doctor.

and now he will start bashing u and maybe me and will bring up that famous link of his