‘Hindu ultras targeted Bhagwat’ (current RSS chief)

[EjazR]

'Hindu ultras targeted Bhagwat' - Arab News

MUMBAI: Maharashtra Home Minister RR Patil said during a session of the Maharashtra Legislative Assembly on Thursday, that hardcore Hindu outfits Abhinav Bharat and Sanathan Sanstha — responsible for the Malegaon bomb blasts in 2008 — had planned to target Mohan Bhagwat, the Rashtriya Sevak Sangh (RSS) chief, prior to his taking up the top post of RSS.

Patil said the police wiretapped telephone conversations between members of the Abhinav Bharat in which the Hindu militants passed derogatory remarks against Bhagwat. On demand made by Nationalist Congress Party (NCP) legislator Jitendra Awhad, urging the government to ban the two Hindu outfits just as it had done with the Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI), Patil said that the government was seriously considering the ban.

Patil also told the Assembly that the taped conversation also mentioned the use of a poisonous chemical that could be put into slippers and shoes resulting in the death of the wearer of the footwear in two to three days.

“The use of chemical in the footwear would baffle even the best of the chemical analyzer or doctors,” Patil said, adding that the conversation between the Hindu militants however did not mention the technique used in applying the chemical on footwear.

 

[Spring Onion]

'Hindu ultras targeted Bhagwat' - Arab News

MUMBAI: Maharashtra Home Minister RR Patil said during a session of the Maharashtra Legislative Assembly on Thursday, that hardcore Hindu outfits Abhinav Bharat and Sanathan Sanstha — responsible for the Malegaon bomb blasts in 2008 — had planned to target Mohan Bhagwat, the Rashtriya Sevak Sangh (RSS) chief, prior to his taking up the top post of RSS.

Patil said the police wiretapped telephone conversations between members of the Abhinav Bharat in which the Hindu militants passed derogatory remarks against Bhagwat. On demand made by Nationalist Congress Party (NCP) legislator Jitendra Awhad, urging the government to ban the two Hindu outfits just as it had done with the Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI), Patil said that the government was seriously considering the ban.

Patil also told the Assembly that the taped conversation also mentioned the use of a poisonous chemical that could be put into slippers and shoes resulting in the death of the wearer of the footwear in two to three days.

“The use of chemical in the footwear would baffle even the best of the chemical analyzer or doctors,” Patil said, adding that the conversation between the Hindu militants however did not mention the technique used in applying the chemical on footwear.

Why would Hindu militants want to kill the cheif of another Hindu militant organisation ??

 

[EjazR]

Well RSS is not a militant organisation per se. Its equivalant is the Jamaat Islami in Pakistan.

Its most likely the that they felt he was too "soft" and not radical enough to "save Hindus" The same concept that is used for example by Muslim extremists groups regularly like LeT, Hizb, HuJI, TTP e.t.c. Infact, these groups also target religious scholars who don't subscribe to their viewpoint.

 

[Spring Onion]

Well RSS is not a militant organisation per se. Its equivalant is the Jamaat Islami in Pakistan.

Its most likely the that they felt he was too "soft" and not radical enough to "save Hindus" The same concept that is used for example by Muslim extremists groups regularly like LeT, Hizb, HuJI, TTP e.t.c. Infact, these groups also target religious scholars who don't subscribe to their viewpoint.

comapring it with Pakistani political party was uncalled for in the first place. But even then JI had never advocated killing of minorities unlike RSS that has blood of Indian Muslims at its hands.

The reason for LeT and Hizb is liberation of Kashmir, HuJI and TTP are terrorist organisations so if you are comparing RSS with TTP and HuJI then i agree with you.

 

[RobbieS]

Though I want to believe that RSS per se doesn't advocate the so called Minority bashing policies, we cant condone the fact that its ideological offshoots like BJP, VHP and the Bajrang Dal have been responsible for the despicable acts committed in the last two decades in India. They are all a part of the same tree, just different branches.

 

[EjazR]

@Jana
It is an accurate description more or less. RSS has not been directly involved even as policy against muslims. You are confusing with militant groups like VHP, Bajrang Dal Ram Sene e.t.c. which are involved in such acts. However, some members linked to the RSS who are extremists may link up with these other groups to further their agenda.

One difference is that RSS is not directly involved in politics like JI although many would say (most likely rightly) that they remote control the BJP.

Just like JI involves in social service works so does the RSS. And just like JI is heavily involved in propaganda and rewriting history so is RSS. And just like JI ideology is related to religious nationalism i.e. use politcal power to impose a religious view point on the people so does RSS.

For the record, I completely disagree with the agendas of both groups as they are unhealthy for any society regardless of religion.

Coming to LeT e.t.c. and they liberating Kashmir, sorry to say but you are still dreaming. There is no difference between TTP ideology and LeT. Both are involved in killing muslims mostly i.e. those who oppose their politcal Islam ideology.

I might say the VHP, HJS, Bajran Dal, and the more extremists Abhinav Bharat and Sanathan Sanstha are more like LeJ and Sipaha Sahaba as they are involved internally within India and not in cross border attacks.

Moreover they lack capabilities as they were not "trained" like the muslim groups in Pakistan were during the Zia years under American/Western/Arab/Pakistani oversight and hence their lethality is less comparatively although still no reason for complacency. Better to nip them in the bud.

Again the root cause in both cases is a political religious ideology and extreme religious nationalism or linking nationalism with a particular religion and this should be tackled as well.

 

[RobbieS]

It is an accurate description more or less. RSS has not been directly involved even as policy against muslims. You are confusing with militant groups like VHP, Bajrang Dal Ram Sene e.t.c. which are involved in such acts. However, some members linked to the RSS who are extremists may link up with these other groups to further their agenda.

One difference is that RSS is not directly involved in politics like JI although many would say (most likely rightly) that they remote control the BJP.

Just like JI involves in social service works so does the RSS. And just like JI is heavily involved in propaganda and rewriting history so is RSS. And just JI ideology is related to religious nationalism i.e. use politcal power to impose a religious view point on the people so does RSS.

For the record, I completely disagree with the agendas of both groups as they are unhealthy for any society regardless of religion.

Agree with you bro. For me, they just violate the "live and let live" philosophy that is essential in multi-religious society like ours.