Hekmatyar’s men supplying Taliban intelligence to Nato: officials

[rohailmalhi]

Hekmatyar’s men supplying Taliban intelligence to Nato: officials

KABUL, July 8: A militant Afghan group is supplying intelligence on the
Taliban to government and foreign troops leading to the capture or death of several commanders in the north, senior officials have said.

In what could signal a split within the militants, Hezb-i-Islami fighters have been tipping off US and Afghan forces over the past few months, revealing locations of key Taliban figures in Baghlan and Kunduz provinces, said General Murad Ali Murad, commander of Afghan troops in the north.

“We get intelligence on the Taliban’s whereabouts and movements, especially their commanders, from members of Hezb-iIslami,” Gen Murad told Reuters in a telephone interview.

“The flow of intelligence is working very well. It really helps us eliminate those who pose a serious security threat,” said Gen Murad, who commands the 209th Army Corps in northern Afghanistan.

A senior Afghan provincial official in the north confirmed the claim. “Intelligence comes from the armed forces of Hezb-i-Islami. We buy information from the fighters,” said the official who spoke on con dition of anonymity.Hezb-i-Islami, led by the veteran anti-Soviet guerilla commander Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, is one of three major militant groups fighting the Karzai government and foreign forces in Afghanistan, mainly in the east and pockets of the north.

The other two, both seen by Nato as bigger threats, are the Taliban, with strongholds in the south, and the Haqqani network, based mainly in the southeast.

While Hezb-i-Islami shares some of the aims of the Taliban, it has largely led a separate movement. Earlier this year, Taliban fighters pushed into Hezb-i-Islami strongholds in the north, leading to clashes between the two groups.

Hezb-i-Islami later played down the clashes, but Gen Murad said Hekmatyar’s men, who came off worse in the fighting, now sought revenge and were passing on information about their Taliban rivals.

The increased localised squabbling could signal divisions among the militants’ ranks after Hezb-iIslami distanced itself from the Taliban earlier this year when it sent a delegation to Kabul to meet President Hamid Karzai.

The talks ended without break through. Gen Murad said intelligence from Hezb-i-Islami’s ranks was also due to better coordination between Afghan and foreign forces.

The senior Afghan provincial official said this was due to the arrival of US forces into the area. “It has been working very well since the Americans arrived. The flow of intelligence was very weak with the Germans but now it is flowing very well,” the official said.

The comments by Afghan officials about Hezb-i-Islami come after a series of Nato reports saying its forces had either killed or captured several Taliban commanders in the north.

On May 14, Mullah Ruhullah, the Taliban shadow governor for Baghlan, and his deputy were killed by Afghan and foreign forces. Mawlawi Jabbar, his replacement, was killed with two Taliban commanders in a US air strike only two weeks later.

Three days after Mawlawi Jabbar was killed, his successor was captured by Afghan and US forces as he prepared to leave for Pakistan, Nato said. Then on June 21, the recently appointed Taliban chief of finance for Baghlan was captured while visiting southern Helmand.—Reuters

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i think there might be a split in Talibans as might be might USA has offered Hekmatyar tht if he supports NATO he will not be prosecuted plus he will be given a share in the Government.
or might be this is a tactic by NATO to divide Talibans over this issue and create confusion among them about who is tyrant.

 

[Ahmad]

Hekmatyar’s men supplying Taliban intelligence to Nato: officials



i think there might be a split in Talibans as might be might USA has offered Hekmatyar tht if he supports NATO he will not be prosecuted plus he will be given a share in the Government.
or might be this is a tactic by NATO to divide Talibans over this issue and create confusion among them about who is tyrant.

Hekmatyar's men or i should say his party members are already in the gov. Hope he comes to sense and stop killing his own people even further, nothing is too late.

 

[TaimiKhan]

Well some Gen talking so openly means one thing, to bring bad blood between the taliban and hekmatyar's men, a new strategy, ti defeat them, divide them and then engage them.

If Hekmatyar's men had been in reality supplying information, the Afghans would never reveal it, rather keep up with their campaigns of eliminating the Talibans, but since they are saying it publicly, the Afghans want to use the recent success stories to their advantage by blaming the HeI guys.

Good tactic, but results are to be seen, which may not yield as expected.

 

[rohailmalhi]

Well some Gen talking so openly means one thing, to bring bad blood between the taliban and hekmatyar's men, a new strategy, ti defeat them, divide them and then engage them.

If Hekmatyar's men had been in reality supplying information, the Afghans would never reveal it, rather keep up with their campaigns of eliminating the Talibans, but since they are saying it publicly, the Afghans want to use the recent success stories to their advantage by blaming the HeI guys.

Good tactic, but results are to be seen, which may not yield as expected.

Yeah Exactly y would they gonna expose there source of information to Whole world .
the only reason is the divide Talibans and defeat them .or atleast before leaving Afghanistan they can say we are not completely defeated.

 

[Ahmad]

The taliban and Gulbudin are not each other's friends, they have had a history of big clashes and rivaliry. In one point Gulbudin's men were fighting against the talibna along side Rabani's men!! They are still having fights and killing among each other and even Hekmatyar's commandars and men have surrended to the gov in large numbers to put pressure on the taliban, if GoA want to exploit this, then why not, good for them, even if it doent do any good, it wont do any harm either. This tactic has been used by GoP as well in wazirstan.

 

[rohailmalhi]

The taliban and Gulbudin are not each other's friends, they have had a history of big clashes and rivaliry. In one point Gulbudin's men were fighting against the talibna along side Rabani's men!! They are still having fights and killing among each other and even Hekmatyar's commandars and men have surrended to the gov in large numbers to put pressure on the taliban, if GoA want to exploit this, then why not, good for them, even if it doent do any good, it wont do any harm either. This tactic has been used by GoP as well in wazirstan.

So u mean to say tht Nato is empploying and strategy used by GOP.
hmmmmmm............

 

[Ahmad]

So u mean to say tht Nato is empploying and strategy used by GOP.
hmmmmmm............

I dont think this idea was inveted by GoP, this tactic has been used widely in the past for long long time and it will be used again in the future, in some areas it brings success but in other areas it doesnt, but it is worth trying it.

 

[Spring Onion]

Hikmatyar groups is not fighting against US/NATO hence nothing new and no wonder they are providing info about Taliban fighters

 

[rohailmalhi]

I dont think this idea was inveted by GoP, this tactic has been used widely in the past for long long time and it will be used again in the future, in some areas it brings success but in other areas it doesnt, but it is worth trying it.

yeah Ahmad brother i knw tht i was asking coz i heard after sucessful clearance opreation in swat Americans are studying out strategies .
so actually i think they are trying sumthing similar in Afghanistan to.

 

[Ahmad]

Hikmatyar groups is not fighting against US/NATO hence nothing new and no wonder they are providing info about Taliban fighters

I think they were fighting, but if what you say is true, then this is the best thing i can hear, at least he is not participating in destroying his country anymore. i personally will stop condemning him and instead praise him.

 

[Ahmad]

yeah Ahmad brother i knw tht i was asking coz i heard after sucessful clearance opreation in swat Americans are studying out strategies .
so actually i think they are trying sumthing similar in Afghanistan to.

brother, as i said before, this tactic has already been used in the past, the americans used this in iraq to separate sunni militias from al qaeda.

 

[Spring Onion]

I think they were fighting, but if what you say is true, then this is the best thing i can hear, at least he is not participating in destroying his country anymore. i personally will stop condemning him and instead praise him.

Ahmad as far as my information is. Hikamtyar and co had kept low profile avoiding taking part in fight. They had also held several meetings with US officials and recently (from last year) also with Karzai under his patronage on behalf of US. Hikamtyar groups is not an issue for US/NATO currently.

 

[Ahmad]

Ahmad as far as my information is. Hikamtyar and co had kept low profile avoiding taking part in fight. They had also held several meetings with US officials and recently (from last year) also with Karzai under his patronage on behalf of US. Hikamtyar groups is not an issue for US/NATO currently.

Gulbudin is not strong anymore as he used to be, that is right, he also held talks with the GoA openly and his rep was in kabul awhile ago. but he was engaged in anti gov activities, hope this has come to an end and hope he starts living like the others from now on.