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Hamid Karzai is not an idiot

Sher Malang

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THE much-underrated and maligned Hamid Karzai is after all not such a dunce. On May 1, the Afghan president pulled off a major diplomatic deal to give Afghanistan an edge it had never enjoyed over Pakistan. Nominated at Bonn more than a decade ago as Afghan chief and ‘elected’ twice in ballot exercises of doubtful validity, Mr Karzai must now be scoffing at Pakistan to his heart’s delight.

The 10-year Strategic Partnership Agreement (SPA), signed by President Barack Obama and Mr Karzai a day before the first anniversary of the SEALs’ Abbottabad raid, has brought about a radical shift in the regional balance of power, with Afghanistan emerging in a stronger position vis-à-vis Pakistan in terms of security guarantees from America.

Because Islamabad failed to satisfy the US that it was acting in a way commensurate with Pakistan’s status as a ‘major non-Nato’ ally, Washington has had the pleasure of twisting Islamabad’s arm by deciding to give the same status now to Afghanistan. As the SPA’s sub-clause 3 of article III says, America will designate Afghanistan a major non-Nato ally to “help provide a long-term framework for mutual security and defence cooperation”. In short, while Pakistan is no more America’s ally, Afghanistan is. The agreement expires in 2024, a long time, and has enviable room for Mr Karzai’s friends in New Delhi.

Another clause — 9 of article III — has immense and frightful implications for Pakistan: it recognises that Afghanistan’s stability contributes to the development and stability of South-Central Asia, and therefore the United States affirms that “it shall regard with grave concern any external aggression against Afghanistan. Were this to occur”, America and Afghanistan will “hold consultations on an urgent basis” to develop “an appropriate response, including … political, diplomatic, economic, or military measures …”

Who is suspected of having committed or who may commit “external aggression” against Afghanistan? Most certainly no other neighbour save the one on the east of the Durand Line. The agreement by implications is Pakistan-specific, and to expect any Kabul government not to use this agreement to its maximum advantage against Pakistan is to be naïve. Pakistan’s newly developed foreign policy mechanism is ponderous — ponderous not because it is inherently so, but because it is new, untested and is in the process of evolution. The parliamentary committee’s recommendations and its adoption by parliament took five months. In these five crucial months we stood motionless while Mr Karzai had the common sense to move with speed. While he clinched a deal with the superpower, we continued to lament Salala and expected the world to shed tears with us. Nobody bothered to.

The gravity of a crisis that perpetuated itself in various forms — Raymond Davis, Abbottabad and Salala — had required a quick response acceptable to both Pakistan and the US. Instead, if there was any activity that was visible, it was the ‘religious’ mobocracy whose howls and shrieks occupied centre stage. The brains behind this street demagogy did not realise that at stake was the future of Pakistan’s relations not just with the superpower but with 49 other nations, including EU countries, Canada, Australia, Japan and many others.

Pakistan’s non-Nato ally status had a potential — but a potential which Islamabad never had the wisdom to exploit. Mr Karzai exploited our stupidity with remarkable success and may now adopt a stance much tougher than he ever has towards Pakistan.

All said and done, Mr Karzai is not an idiot.

Source: Hamid Karzai is not an idiot | DAWN.COM
 
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So Pakistan is no longer Ghulam, but Karzai has sold Afghanistan.


Very smart man indeed. :tup:

You are very khush-kismati, Sher ji.

Lol a ghulam of ghulam wasn't good yea? if this assures that Afghanistan is soled so as the rest of the other countries and I wouldn't mind if we are aligned with them :)
 
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Lol a ghulam of ghulam wasn't good yea? if this assures that Afghanistan is soled so as the rest of the other countries and I wouldn't mind if we are aligned with them :)


If you are happy sir, so am I!
 
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Pakistan’s non-Nato ally status had a potential — but a potential which Islamabad never had the wisdom to exploit. Mr Karzai exploited our stupidity with remarkable success and may now adopt a stance much tougher than he ever has towards Pakistan.

Actually , first he should try to control Kabul !
 
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Smart Move, I still belive that Pakistan's ISI is interested in a foot hold in Afganistan by bringing back Taliban to power, but with this deal and the continued assistance or presence of US troops in Afganistan will make sure Taliban will be flused out by the time they leave the land.

India on the other hand should earn the trust and respect of the Afghans by involving themself in the Afgan civil building process. Pakistan should abondon its idea of bringing back Taliban and work with INDIA in building the nation which is now in rubles and 100s of years backword
 
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they day USA left karzai will run to peshawar :)

USA's is loosing a war here and making these sort of agreements does not matter now
 
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So Pakistan is no longer Ghulam, but Karzai has sold Afghanistan.


Very smart man indeed. :tup:

You are very khush-kismati, Sher ji.

Well....one has to be happy if his master just brought out a new place.
 
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Smart Move, I still belive that Pakistan's ISI is interested in a foot hold in Afganistan by bringing back Taliban to power, but with this deal and the continued assistance or presence of US troops in Afganistan will make sure Taliban will be flused out by the time they leave the land.

India on the other hand should earn the trust and respect of the Afghans by involving themself in the Afgan civil building process. Pakistan should abondon its idea of bringing back Taliban and work with INDIA in building the nation which is now in rubles and 100s of years backword

Afghans are not against the return of Taliban! they want them to lay down their guns and stop working on 'others' directions and join their brothers! Taliban in this government will bring significant changes to the system, the major problem with the current government is not giving justice to locals and Taliban can give justice to them; by justice I mean the whole thing that's going wrong in Afghanistan today, from bribe to social violence! the rest is almost OK with this government.

Both India and Pakistan can contribute to a better future of Afghanistan and today if anyone who blames us for signing this pact should first look into what they did to Afghans and Afghanistan than blame themselves.
 
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Because Islamabad failed to satisfy the US that it was acting in a way commensurate with Pakistan’s status as a ‘major non-Nato’ ally, Washington has had the pleasure of twisting Islamabad’s arm by deciding to give the same status now to Afghanistan

How exactly is it " twisting Pakistan's arm " ? :rofl:

I am sure majority of the Pakistanis are extremely happy with the development :lol:

Giving non-Nato ally status to whom ? A country in deep anarchy , drug trafficking , overrun with terrorist and no such thing as central Government ... How will it support US interests in the region ? :lol:

What if you provide military assistance and when you depart , the Taliban have the pleasure of taking control of them :rofl: How long can Karzai last post 2014 ? :P

How much area of Afghanistan is under the jurisdiction of Karzai administration even now ? :azn:
 
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Lol Afghan stop acting like a bhangee.A nuclear armed Pakistan with one of the largest armed forces in the world does not need support of any country against Afghanistan.I mean you guys have a government whose control does not extend beyond capital unless supported by NATO.
 
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LoL Indians openly admit on this forum that they want to steal the Afghan's mineral resources.


I hope the Indo-Afghan friendship is a strong one. :lol:
you my friend are poor at comprehending or is it the self guilt that you are trying to cover up by saying that we are after the mineral.
Probably remember the days when you created Taliban to steel the resorces of Afganistan.
I have clearly specified about a partnership between INDIA and PAKISTAN to develop Afganistan so that they become a part of the civilized world and become a more stable nation. on the other hand i suspect your intension is to keep the Afganis under your joystick to make them dance for your tune, but that aint going to happen.

Afghans are not against the return of Taliban! they want them to lay down their guns and stop working on 'others' directions and join their brothers! Taliban in this government will bring significant changes to the system, the major problem with the current government is not giving justice to locals and Taliban can give justice to them; by justice I mean the whole thing that's going wrong in Afghanistan today, from bribe to social violence! the rest is almost OK with this government.

Both India and Pakistan can contribute to a better future of Afghanistan and today if anyone who blames us for signing this pact should first look into what they did to Afghans and Afghanistan than blame themselves.
Taliban is good at doing justice when it comes to punishing the currupt because they enjoy punishing some one and enjoy the suffering of others. In a civilized world punishments are ment for two purpose.
1) One make the accused/convict realize that he/she has made a sin and that has caused some one his fortune or life.
2) Send a message to the general public and make them aware that its ackward to become a convit and feel the guilt for what you do.
On the other hand, the Taliban punish people by amputatuing some ones hand, leg or head, this is not punishment but barbarism or hanabalism. a good Taliban is a dead Taliban.
Finally Taliban are founded on the basis of religious fanatism by understanding the teaching of the Quran and the teaching of Allahs messengers, so for sure they can not be good administrator
 
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