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HAL AMCA India’s fifth generation fighter update

Let start counting:
1- We are ahead of you in the state-of the-art, Our proud our thunder.....
2- We have outclass relationships with the world than India and participating in many fields...
3- Arfa Karim Was a Pakistani who was the youngest Microsoft certified In the World...
4- We have the best known military and airforce in the world....
5- World youngest expert GAMER belongs to Pakistan....
6- Pakistan has far superior missile technology than India...
7- Pakistan has tremendous Surface-to-air defence systems...
8- Pakistan is ahead of India for making UAV's
9- COAS General Raheel Sharif is the worlds best army chief...
10- ISI is the worlds number 1 secret agency...

In reply of these what you have....???

Wow Lets get this started...My statements are in bold.

1- We are ahead of you in the state-of the-art, Our proud our thunder.....

Whats Pakistan's contribution is the so called State of the Art. Chinese engineers left the aircraft with C++ codes instead of the sophesticated ADA just so that the Pakistani engineers dont get confused. So much for your state of the Art. Btw LCA's codes are written in ADA by ADA.. Lol..

2- We have outclass relationships with the world than India and participating in many fields...

I can see that.lol. India is 7th Most valued nation Brand. I dont see Pakistan anywhere close.

3- Arfa Karim Was a Pakistani who was the youngest Microsoft certified In the World...

Wrong. Its M Lavinashree from India.. 9 Years old. Youngest charted accountant is Indian too and Youngest Microsoft certified Tech specialist is again an Indian.

4- We have the best known military and airforce in the world....

Joke of the millenium. Quote one neutral source wherein your country comes anywhere near top 5.

5- World youngest expert GAMER belongs to Pakistan....

Meanwhile Reuben Paul, the 8-year old Indian is a CEO of gaming firm Prudent Games.

6- Pakistan has far superior missile technology than India...

List out the names of Missiles Pakistan has developed inhouse.

SLBM
SLCM
SA Missile
AA Missile
MBRL
A-Tank Missile System
Supersonic Cruise Missile


7- Pakistan has tremendous Surface-to-air defence systems...

We saw that when the Americans intruded to take Osama out from your military capital of Abottabad.


8- Pakistan is ahead of India for making UAV's

Let me tell you a secret. You guys dont have a running industry that can make anything better than what Colleges in India can offer.

9- COAS General Raheel Sharif is the worlds best army chief...

Really. Source Please.

10- ISI is the worlds number 1 secret agency...

Really. Source Please.
 
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I read in the most expensive school and have certified teacher not every Pakistani learn from mullah and become a terrorist and I think you have turned the topic and don't reply to the post #43
Well I don't want to banned but should I answer you?
Let start counting:
1- We are ahead of you in the state-of the-art, Our proud our thunder.....
It still called CAC/PAC JF-17 Thunder
I don't why China haven't inducted this state of art aircraft in PLAAF.
2- We have outclass relationships with the world than India and participating in many fields...
Congrats..
Pakistan is a member of the United Nations, the Commonwealth of Nations, the Next Eleven Economies, Shanghai Cooperation Organisation, ECO, UfC, D8, Cairns Group, Kyoto Protocol, ICCPR, RCD, UNCHR, Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank, Group of Eleven, CPFTA, Group of 24, the G20 developing nations, ECOSOC, founding member of the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation, SAARC and CERN.

India was one of the founding members of several international organisations, most notably the United Nations, Asian Development Bank, G-20 major economies and the founder of the Non-Aligned Movement. India has also played an important and influential role in other international organisations like East Asia Summit,World Trade Organisation,International Monetary Fund (IMF),G8+5 and IBSA Dialogue Forum. Regionally, India is a part of SAARC and BIMSTEC. India has taken part in several UN peacekeeping missions and in 2007, it was the second-largest troop contributor to the United Nations. India is currently seeking a permanent seat in theUN Security Council, along with the other G4 nations.

India participates in the following international organisations:
List of state visits to India
3- Arfa Karim Was a Pakistani who was the youngest Microsoft certified In the World...
Congrats, it's realy a good achievement.
Are you talking about same microsoft CEO: Satya Nadella
4- We have the best-known military and airforce in the world....
What do you want to say, can you define best known military & airforce?
5- World youngest expert GAMER belongs to Pakistan....
Congrats, didn't know about this.
Can you put some light on it as no info on google available about it.
6- Pakistan has far superior missile technology than India...
Congrats, name some which are better than Indian counterpart...
7- Pakistan has tremendous Surface-to-air defence systems...
8- Pakistan is ahead of India for making UAV's
Can you name any?
9- COAS General Raheel Sharif is the worlds best army chief...
What qualities should an army chief have to become best army chief.
Best army chief?
or army chief more powerful than civilian govt
10- ISI is the worlds number 1 secret agency...
Congrats, how much it helps you than RAW helps us?
 
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Let start counting:
1- We are ahead of you in the state-of the-art, Our proud our thunder.....
2- We have outclass relationships with the world than India and participating in many fields...
3- Arfa Karim Was a Pakistani who was the youngest Microsoft certified In the World...
4- We have the best known military and airforce in the world....
5- World youngest expert GAMER belongs to Pakistan....
6- Pakistan has far superior missile technology than India...
7- Pakistan has tremendous Surface-to-air defence systems...
8- Pakistan is ahead of India for making UAV's
9- COAS General Raheel Sharif is the worlds best army chief...
10- ISI is the worlds number 1 secret agency...

In reply of these what you have....???

Kid did you dike your own grave? ??
 
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I believe you can have 2D with flat nozzle but 3d has to be round.
@Abingdonboy or @PARIKRAMA might have an answer on this.

Not really, mate! Thrust vectoring can be sided, axial, deformable or a combination.

Sided adds plates to deviate flux :
Rockwell-MBB_X-31_landing.JPG

Axial moves the whole nozzle :
Jet_engine_F135(STOVL_variant)'s_thrust_vectoring_nozzle_N.PNG


Deformable moves parts in 3D :
MiG-29OVTnozzles.jpg

You are right that most modern solutions are round though ... and yet the top dog sports sided TV :
hqdefault.jpg

Good day, mate, Tay.
 
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I read in the most expensive school and have certified teacher
Hi,

Kid that certainly doesn't demonstrate that you study (Read according to you) in the most expensive school with Qualified
(certified Teacher that too according you) . An advice from an old soul like me, one should keep their mouth shut until they have something better to say, you dont have to prove that youre one confused teenager who is still struggling to get over his puberty age.

HAL AMCA India’s fifth generation fighter update
BY DEFENCEUPDATE · MARCH 1, 2016


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Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA) is an Indian programme of a fifth-generation fighter aircraft. It is being developed by an aerospace industry team which consist of Aeronautical Development Agency as a design firm and to be manufactured by Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL). It is a single-seat, twin-engine, stealth supermaneuverable all weather multirole fighter aircraft. Unofficial design work on the AMCA started in 2008 with official work started in 2011 and completed in 2014. In 2008 Indian Navy joined the programme for the naval variant optimized for the aircraft carriers operation. The first flight is scheduled to occur in 2023–2024.

It is a multirole combat aircraft designed for the air superiority, ground attack, bombing, intercepting, Strike and other types of roles. It combines supercruise, stealth, AESA radar, maneuverability, and advanced avionics to overcome and suppress previous generation fighter aircraft along with many ground and maritime defences.

The AMCA preliminary design was changed several times, to adopt new model engines, Radar’s and long range missiles. Like how the A 10 developed to carry the GAU 8 Avenger cannon. The AMCA also developed to carry multi national equipment’s like Missiles, Radar’s and Engines.

Currently more than 4000 employers assigned into the AMCA project,where they extracted from ADA, DRDO, HAL and some other leading private companies. The AMCA team identified three major technical works. Which are Thrust vectoring, super cruise Engines, Active radar’s and other processing system and the radar absorbent material.

Engine
India asks for a joint development of fifth generation engines with foreign nations. It’s reported India might need more than 2000 plus Engines for AMCA. India already has initiated a Engine project named Kaveri. India wants the new engine who powers the AMCA must be based on the Kaveri. In response many foreign nations responded for the Joint Engine development program.

Currently three countries tries to seal the AMCA engine development program. US, France and England offers their known engine companies like General Electric, Snecma and Rolls Royce respectively. GE from America offered engine development based on the F 414 engine, and the Snecma announced the M 88 engine who powers the Rafale and the Rolls Royce also offered the EJ 200 engine for joint development with Kaveri.

As per last known reports, US company General Electric leads in the program. who already supplying F 404 engines for LCA Tejas. GE also set ups manufacturing plants in India to produce aviation engines in India.

Radar
As same like every other fifth generation fighters, The AMCA too hosts superior avionics and sensor suites. The AMCA hosts new generation GaN based AESA for superior detection and performance. Currently there is no fighter jets has GaN based AESA radars. However many ground based radar available with GaN transceiver modules.

Some information’s reported that, state owned LRDE is initiated a project to develop a small size air borne X band GaN based AESA radar for AMCA. LRDE already shows a model of AESA radar in last years Aero India exhibition. However the Uttam is not good for fifth generation fighters like AMCA.

It’s reported earlier that, India and Israel working for a joint project to develop a GaN based AESA for fighter jets. However due to the importance of the program the information’s are highly classified. It’s clear the Radar too be a joint venture between either US or Israel.

Sensor
The infrared based systems like IRST, missile warning systems, laser warning system also added internally in the AMCA. The IRST sensors are placed in all sides of the AMCA to provide full angle coverage like in Rafale and F 35. The proposed IRST system is work similar to the F 35’s EOTS who shares the information’s to friendly units like via the satellite and highly secured data links.

AMCA also comes with self protection jammer system to jam enemy radar guided missiles from both air and ground. electronic counter measure systems to confuse the infrared guided missiles and a radar warning receiver too added to detect enemy radar frequency’s.

The Senor suites in AMCA led by the LRDE and BEL which include many private and foreign contributes.

Propulsion and Avionics
AMCA is a twin-engines aircraft which is powered by 2X GTRE k9 + or K 10 engine that can capable of producing 11-Kn-125Kn thrust each.The aircraft has a maximum take off weight is 29 tonnes:2 tonnes of internal weapons and 4 tonnes of internal fuel.It can achieve maximum speed of 2.5+ Mach (2665 + Km/h) at altitude and Mach 1.2 at sea level and have a cruise speed of Mach 1.6 at supercruise.The AMCA would have range of 2800 km and climb at the altitudes @ 13,716m/min.

The HAL AMCA has integrated with latest avionics suite which include AESA radar,Integrated avionics systems,Helmet Mounted Display,Datalink capabilities,IRST,E/O Targeting System (EOTS),Multi-functional integrated radio electronics system (MIRES),ECM Suite,Laser-based counter-measures against infrared missiles,IRST for airborne targets,Ultraviolet warning sensors and Targeting pod.

Armaments
The armaments includes 23 mm GSh-23 cannon gun and 8 hardpoints in stealthy configuration and 12 maximum hardpoints id non stealth load.The aircraft is mounted with Astra missile for long range BVRAAM combat ,Python 5 all aspect short range missile and Vympel R-73 short/visual range combat missile.



It’s Reported the AMCA will be ready by early 2020 or before and HAL starts flying the first flight of fully developed AMCA by 2021. with the initial low rate initial production by 2024. And the air force gets the first AMCA squad by 2025. If all things goes per schedule
Hi,

Please excuse me for my limited understanding here. If IAF is going for stealth fighter then would they have two type of stealth fighter in its inventory ? PAK FA and this one ?

From my understanding, I believe that this project is more to explore and mature the aviation industry to whole new level rather than about functionality of the craft. I could be wrong though.

Kindly enlighten me with your deep insight guys
 
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Hi,

Hi,

Please excuse me for my limited understanding here. If IAF is going for stealth fighter then would they have two type of stealth fighter in its inventory ? PAK FA and this one ?

From my understanding, I believe that this project is more to explore and mature the aviation industry to whole new level rather than about functionality of the craft. I could be wrong though.

Kindly enlighten me with your deep insight guys

AMCA project would be based on the lessons learnt from LCA, LCA1A, LCA Mk2 and ToT that India has received till date or would receive as part of RAFALE, US Fighter project and FGFA projects.

AMCA would materialize much much down the line. India would be happy if AMCA is ready by the time FGFA is ready for its MLU.
 
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Please excuse me for my limited understanding here. If IAF is going for stealth fighter then would they have two type of stealth fighter in its inventory ? PAK FA and this one ?

From my understanding, I believe that this project is more to explore and mature the aviation industry to whole new level rather than about functionality of the craft. I could be wrong though.

Kindly enlighten me with your deep insight guys
AFAIK
India isn't going to buy FAK FA as when it will be operational but will buy FGFA which will be based on FAK FA but include several modification according to Indian requirements, Russia also will produce FGFA for themselves, India will invest about 5 billion dollar for development of Sukhoi/HAL FGFA.
HAL AMCA is purely Indian project but include several technology from foreign mainly engine tech till now GE414 based engine have most probability or Snecma M88 based engine because we are getting Rafales, Roll Royce also expressed help for engine development.
However India may develop Kaveri based engine for AMCA as several claims are made by HAL as well as foreign company that it is a good engine can be developed into suitable engine for AMCA.
These engines will be 2xK9+ or 2xK10 based on whatever existing design.
Earlier prototypes of AMCA will fly with GE414 & first prototype is expected in 2019.
IN have share in AMCA as it is clear that IAC-II will get 5G aircrafts.
 
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Hi,

Kid that certainly doesn't demonstrate that you study (Read according to you) in the most expensive school with Qualified
(certified Teacher that too according you) . An advice from an old soul like me, one should keep their mouth shut until they have something better to say, you dont have to prove that youre one confused teenager who is still struggling to get over his puberty age.


Hi,

Please excuse me for my limited understanding here. If IAF is going for stealth fighter then would they have two type of stealth fighter in its inventory ? PAK FA and this one ?

From my understanding, I believe that this project is more to explore and mature the aviation industry to whole new level rather than about functionality of the craft. I could be wrong though.

Kindly enlighten me with your deep insight guys

The Answer is USAF have two 5th Gen. fighter plane F-22 and F-35, Why ??

Because F-22 the real marvel in the engineering and the king of the Sky, is just for the Air Defence of the USA.
F-35 is the one, which will be used inside the enemy airspace to fulfill the USAF mission. Similarly FGFA would be for the Air Superiority/Air Defence, and AMCA would be to breach the enemy Airspace/Air defence. Offcource, the air superiority supports to provide the cover. You forgot an important Piece of the hardware in this 5th Generation warfare which is the Stealth USAV/UAV, which in India is called the AURA Project.
So theoratically its FGFA, AMCA, and AURA.
 
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Let start counting:
1- We are ahead of you in the state-of the-art, Our proud our thunder.....
2- We have outclass relationships with the world than India and participating in many fields...
3- Arfa Karim Was a Pakistani who was the youngest Microsoft certified In the World...
4- We have the best known military and airforce in the world....
5- World youngest expert GAMER belongs to Pakistan....
6- Pakistan has far superior missile technology than India...
7- Pakistan has tremendous Surface-to-air defence systems...
8- Pakistan is ahead of India for making UAV's
9- COAS General Raheel Sharif is the worlds best army chief...
10- ISI is the worlds number 1 secret agency...

In reply of these what you have....???

Too bad he got banned.
 
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The Answer is USAF have two 5th Gen. fighter plane F-22 and F-35, Why ??
Hi,

They have far better industrial capacity and their budget also allows them to operate more than two types of crafts plus they have different set of operational requirements
 
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Hi,

They have far better industrial capacity and their budget also allows them to operate more than two types of crafts plus they have different set of operational requirements

You are right, then take the example of PLAAF -- J-20 for Air Defence, and J-31 for the tactical strike, and Chinese Stealth UCAV.
 
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