Gun battles on the LOC continuing thread.

[Suriya]

we have sent our solders tactical gear yesterday

They must be some Teflon gears .
Where can india buy those gears to make her security men bullet proof ?

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

okay so when pakistani mortars starts towards Indians civilians first they stop to check if its a baniya hindoo kamina or a pious muslim?
pakistani army has full on strategy right now to take aim at civilians, there used to be a gentleman agreement until 90s where its was understood not to target civilians even in full blown war. Now pakistani army has gone beyond limits and radicalizing even more day by day. Let/Jem and Pa is so much interlinked as per US Indian agencies that these terrorists are acting as arm of pakistani official forces.

Kashmir is a Muslim majority state.

 

[A.M.]

Logged in after a long while. Nice to see PA kicking ***.

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

Every time Pakistan army soldiers suffered multiple casualties are basically Indian surgical strikes including the latest one where indian claimed seven while pakistan accepted 4 soldiers died . Indian media quoting army inside sourced confirmed it was cross border raid .


Simple answer to your question is because they didn't die together at same place , at same time or even belonged to same force e,g BSF men get martyred in LOC firing but they aren't Indian army .

the 4 were killed in firing and all 4 were doing maintenance job.
the incident you are referring had been rejected based on facts. all those who planted bomb were arrested. now raw moles will be hanged soon.

and about different force thing. that's my point you only accept single causality in any incident. imagine a mortar bomb falling on a patrol party or on a post killing only one and that too someone from minority.

 

[Imran Khan]

They must be some Teflon gears .
Where can india buy those gears to make her security men bullet proof ?

its not only bullet but bomb and rocket also

 

[Suriya]

Thousands flee border villages as firing continues between India, Pak in J&K

http://www.theweek.in/news/india/th...ring-continues-between-indian-pak-forces.html

 

[Tumba]

Kashmir is a Muslim majority state.

kashmir valley is smaller than hydrabad/western UP/north bengal area where around 200 million muslims live do you think that gives you right to send afgan/panjabi terrorists to these areas?

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

kashmir valley is smaller than hydrabad/western UP/north bengal area where around 200 million muslims live do you think that gives you right to send afgan/panjabi terrorists to these areas?

Burhan wani was not Punjabi or pathan.

and what do you expect. you kill innocent civilians and we sit quietly. sorry we are a party to Kashmir dispute.

 

[Suriya]

and about different force thing. that's my point you only accept single causality in any incident. imagine a mortar bomb falling on a patrol party or on a post killing only one and that too someone from minority.

someone from minority ?
Three of these men are Hindus .
-
Lance Naik Yogesh Muralidhar
- Sepoy Mandeep Sing
-Lance naik Sam Abraham
-Head Constable A Suresh
- head constable Jagpal Singh

 

[Tumba]

Having been around the area a few years ago, I can tell you that Pakistani posts are built amongst the population because unlike on the IoK side, Pakistan has never pacified that area. They are free to stay or leave. Pakistani positions are built in areas that are completely void of any population and also in areas where the locals have their dwellings, cultivation and livestock. This is because that is how the people lived in that area prior to 1947 and they do so to do this day.

To your last point, each side can continue to believe that for each of their casualty, the other side will be inflicted with 2,3 or 5x more casualties because perhaps it makes people feel better. That is a fantasy and you and others are well within your right to continue believing that. Factually I can tell you that there is not a soldier, officer worth his salt on our side (I can say from experience) who would sit and take up 2x, 3x or 5x more casualties and not inflict the same on your side and I am sure you would say the same for your side. This is the reality of the LoC/IB. Weapon for weapon, caliber for caliber, both sides maintain parity. In some areas, Indian positions are more dense, in others, Pakistani positions are at a better vantage point and vice versa. So when the statements are made for public consumption that "we responded effectively or inflicted x,y or z casualties", its just talk because reciprocal firing, damage and casualties are being taken. The hard reality is that neither side can militarily overcome the response from the other side. They can take out posts in one area/sub-sector, but then there is response from other sectors and the damaged posts are rebuilt after quiet returns.

emotional pouring aside we all know a soldier will hit as hard as possible with the gear he has, only limitations he has are position/reconnaissance/supply support Indian forces are actually has advantage in these parameters over pak forces in most of the areas although in many areas Indian forces are in direct line of fire from not one or two but even three sides<these posts are mostly targeted by pak bat teams>, coming to international border
IA enjoys much more firepower support that can totally route out the green areas that inhabited by pakistan civilians because of India's policies not to target them on the other hand Indian civilians are being regularly pulled back and mostly farms are being allowed under an umbrella, if I have to bet my life which side will have advantage in taking out more positions or puncturing the economy of that particular area India is easy winner. Now why this option is not utilized there are many political/military considerations. But causalities in X terms will always be on paksitani side simple math and facts will tell you that.

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

someone from minority ?
Three of these men are Hindus .
-
Lance Naik Yogesh Muralidhar
- Sepoy Mandeep Sing
-Lance naik Sam Abraham
-Head Constable A Suresh
- head constable Jagpal Singh

really. Sikhs and Christians are not Hindus.
Sam Abraham couldn't be a Hindu.
mandeep Singh is a Sikh.take the list of all indian soldiers killed in last 2 years and you will know the truth.

 

[Suriya]

really. Sikhs and Christians are not Hindus.
Sam Abraham couldn't be a Hindu.
mandeep Singh is a Sikh.

Lance Naik Yogesh Muralidhar
Head Constable A Suresh
- head constable Jagpal Singh all hindus .

 

[Tumba]

Burhan wani was not Punjabi or pathan.

and what do you expect. you kill innocent civilians and we sit quietly. sorry we are a party to Kashmir dispute.

do you know what your pak army did in late 80s in kashmir, the terrorists trained by pak army literally flushed our Kashmiri hindoos around 15% of population, 1000 kashmiri hindus were killed every single month before they were forced to move out, women and small girls raped and cut into pieces by this islamist jihadis.
Debt is still due the bluff will surely be called one day.

 

[CHI RULES]

kashmir valley is smaller than hydrabad/western UP/north bengal area where around 200 million muslims live do you think that gives you right to send afgan/panjabi terrorists to these areas?

The disputed territory as per UN charter. India refusing right of plebiscite. Then u question so called intervention in Indian occupied Kashmir that's ridiculous. The people entering Kashmir valley voluntarily not for monetary benefits.
Further in current situation u should not have a blind eye on Pakistan flags hoisted Srinagar and other areas of Kashmir. The burden of whole situation lies on India and Moody Govt.

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

do you know what your pak army did in late 80s in kashmir, the terrorists trained by pak army literally flushed our Kashmiri hindoos around 15% of population, 1000 kashmiri hindus were killed every single month before they were forced to move out, women and small girls raped and cut into pieces by this islamist jihadis.
Debt is still due the bluff will surely be called one day.

do you know in 90s your terrorist army killed 100k Kashmiri's and buried them in mass graves of thousands.
do you know a whole kashmiri village was raped by your army.
do you know your military is still killing local Kashmiri's in fake encounters and calling them infiltrators.

if you don't know than you need to get out of the matrix and know the truth.