Gulf expects Israel to 'take out' Iran nukes

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LONDON: Gulf states believe Israel will destroy Iran's nuclear program rather than allow it to acquire an atomic bomb, an adviser to the Kuwaiti government and Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) said yesterday. If Iran did build the bomb, said adviser Sami Alfaraj, then the Jewish state might be one of the countries - along with the United States (hey i thought israel was Arabs enemy what am i missing here)and Pakistan - Gulf Arab nations would ask to provide a "nuclear umbrella" to guarantee their security.

Alfaraj, president of the Kuwait Centre for Strategic Studies, said Israel might bomb Iranian nuclear facilities in the same way it destroyed Iraq's main atomic reactor at Osirak with a military strike in 1981. "I believe in something on the same Iraqi model...We are assuming in the Gulf that Israel will take it out. We are not saying that, but Israel would," Alfaraj told Reuters at the start of an analyst 'roadshow' organised by Realite-EU, an independent body which tracks Middle East security development
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Iran denies seeking atomic weapons, saying it wants to develop a civilian nuclear program to generate electricity and enable it to export more oil. The prospect of a US military strike on Iran receded sharply after a US intelligence report in December said Tehran had apparently halted an active atomic bomb program in 2003. Israel has continued to take a hawkish stance. "We are certain that the Iranians are engaged in a serious...clandestine operation to build up a non-conventional capacity," Prime Minister
Ehud Olmert said on a visit to Germany yesterday. Olmert said "no option is ruled out" in countering the alleged nuclear weapons program.

Alfaraj, who advises the GCC secretary general and the Kuwaiti prime minister, foreign ministry and National Security Bureau, said a nuclear-armed Iran would trigger a arms race beyond the Gulf region, drawing in states like Jordan, Egypt, Turkey and Kazakhstan. States that could not develop their own atomic weapons would seek a "nuclear umbrella", he said, adding: "I do not dismiss an Israeli nuclear umbrella, I do not".

Simon Henderson of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy said Iran could develop a bomb "under the radar" in the same way that Pakistan emerged as an atomic power in 1998. "The great danger is they will get to a point and surprise us, we'll wake up one morning and there's an announcement that there's been an Iranian nuclear test," he said. - Reuters
Gulf expects Israel to 'take out' Iran nukes » Kuwait Times Website

wow This puppet Alfaraj isn't there to create a rift between Muslims or divide and rule.

 

[Sino-PakFriendship]

Let us watch the war game between Israel and Iran

Gulf Arabian states want Iran to discard development of nuclear weapons, but also hate Israel.

Attitudes of India and Turkey toward Israel's action are the world concern because these three states are associate alliance encircling the Middle East for US interest.

 

[Neo]

I wonder if the Gulf countries realise that any foreign raid on Iranian facilities will have large ranging consequences including themselves.
Its impossible to take out or even fully paralise Iranian missile arsenal, some would be launched successfully and Iran would not spare large cities, they've demonstrated the capability during the Iran-Iraq War when cities of Baghdad and Mosul came under attack.

 

[su-47]

what's pakistan's stance on iran getting nukes? are pakistanis weary of having another nuclear neighbour, or are they happy that another muslim country will soon join the elite ranks of nuclear armed nations?

 

[IceCold]

what's pakistan's stance on iran getting nukes? are pakistanis weary of having another nuclear neighbour, or are they happy that another muslim country will soon join the elite ranks of nuclear armed nations?

Pakistan made it clear that iran has the right to develop nuclear energy for peaceful purpose and which comes under the rules&regulations of IAEA. Pakistan also said that it will oppose any US led attack on Iran. So pakistan's stance is very clear on the issue, however IMO i dont think pakistan has or might have any problem having a nuclear armed neighbour. Why would we

 

[su-47]

however IMO i dont think pakistan has or might have any problem having a nuclear armed neighbour. Why would we

for the simple reason that in the ever shifting world of geopolitics, friends and enemies change. iran might be pakistan's friend today, but in a few decades iean and pakistan could be bitter enemies. if that happens, pakistan will regret the fact that iran has nukes.

this is one of the reasons why countries dont sell nuclear technology to other friendly countries. because in geopolitical world, there are no friends and enemies. just interests.

 

[salman nedian]

for the simple reason that in the ever shifting world of geopolitics, friends and enemies change. iran might be pakistan's friend today, but in a few decades iean and pakistan could be bitter enemies. if that happens, pakistan will regret the fact that iran has nukes.

this is one of the reasons why countries dont sell nuclear technology to other friendly countries. because in geopolitical world, there are no friends and enemies. just interests.

History shows that Pakistan never had bad relations with any Muslim Country it is the matter of Ideology of Pakistan so don’t bother about that we have no problems with Iran’s nukes.

 

[Sino-PakFriendship]

In fact, both North Korea and Iran should not have nuke.

But both of them have right to defence themselves.

American containment policy toward North Korea and Iran will increase their sense of misgivings.

 

[su-47]

History shows that Pakistan never had bad relations with any Muslim Country it is the matter of Ideology of Pakistan so don’t bother about that we have no problems with Iran’s nukes.

bangladesh was once known as east pakistan. during the time of partition, or even in the 1960s, nobody would have ever even dreamt that west and east pakistan would ever be at war. and yet in 1971 they were killing each other in a state of civil war. if that can happen, then an iran vs pak scenario is not out of the question.

remember that iran is a shia majorit country whereas pakistan is sunni majority. in iraq sunnis and shias are blowing each other up en masse. what if in the future it becomes a sunni vs shia war? pakistan will definitely face an attack from iran. do you want to fight a nuclear power?

also, even if there is no pak vs iran scenario, pak will still have to worry about hardcore shia fanatics stealing iranian nukes. its not out of the question. what if a fanatic shia group seizes a nule and launches it at pakistan? ofcourse, pak will retaliate, but that wont solve anything. pak economy will be crushed like a bug under a lorry tyre.

so its in everybody's interest that no more countries gain nuclear weapons. the west already considers it a mistake that india and pakistan ever gained nukes. they are spending sleepless nights worrying over the security of pak nukes. they think it was a mistake not to attack pak when pak was still enriching uranium. they are not going to make that mistake with iran.

 

[IceCold]

for the simple reason that in the ever shifting world of geopolitics, friends and enemies change. iran might be pakistan's friend today, but in a few decades iean and pakistan could be bitter enemies. if that happens, pakistan will regret the fact that iran has nukes.

this is one of the reasons why countries dont sell nuclear technology to other friendly countries. because in geopolitical world, there are no friends and enemies. just interests.

Well US gave it to Britan and France which inturn gave it to Israel. So i would say that though its all about interest, yet countries have sold it to other friendly countries. Pakistan and iran will enter in a long term relationship with the IP project, so IMO there will be no problem between iran and pakistan in the long run dispite of the fact that iran is a shia majority country while pakistan is a sunni but above the all both countries are muslims. Now you gave the example of iraq, well no doubt that shia and sunni are fighting there but you cant rule out the possible involvement of a third source that always take advantage in such a case and make it look like a fight between shia sunni. However that wouldnt be the case with pakistan and iran.

 

[IceCold]

they are spending sleepless nights worrying over the security of pak nukes. they think it was a mistake not to attack pak when pak was still enriching uranium. they are not going to make that mistake with iran.

By they i guess you mean the western media Because they are the only ones trying to protay pakistan's nukes as a threat. As far as attacking another country is concerned, you need to realize that its not that simple otherwise in case of iran that would have been done by now. To simply locate the targets then to target them and achieve the objective 100% is not a joke even for the worlds most sofisticated army airforce and US is in no position to do it. It was then and it isnt now. The declining US economy wont allow the US to continue with its misadventures.

 

[Awesome]

The exact quotes talk about what is expected, not want is desired.

The Arab states are looking forward to Iran's nukes, IMO.

 

[IceCold]

The exact quotes talk about what is expected, not want is desired.

The Arab states are looking forward to Iran's nukes, IMO.

I have the same opinion it is expected not desired. Iran having nukes means it will keep israel in its place, i dont see why arabs would have a problem.

 

[Awesome]

Remember Iran also offered nuclear tech to all the 6 Arab countries who are now incidentally all going nuclear.

There's more to it than what meets the eye!

We all know the general impression Saudis have been giving Pakistan is that they expect a few nuclear devices to be handed to them whenever they are in a bad position. Nowadays they are settling for a nuclear umbrella.

It won't be surprising if those cheeky fellas have managed to score a deal with the Iranis to pass on their devices once its done.

If I was Iran would be thinking in this way. If I go nuclear they can attack me. If all 7 (6 + 1) of us go nuclear together, they can't do squat.

If anyone wants to suggest that Iran is looking forward to become a regional bully with its weaponry, then I find that really off-the-mark. Iran KNOWS its on thin ice. I think it will be ready to beg, borrow and steal any friends it can get.

 

[su-47]

Remember Iran also offered nuclear tech to all the 6 Arab countries who are now incidentally all going nuclear.

There's more to it than what meets the eye!

We all know the general impression Saudis have been giving Pakistan is that they expect a few nuclear devices to be handed to them whenever they are in a bad position. Nowadays they are settling for a nuclear umbrella.

It won't be surprising if those cheeky fellas have managed to score a deal with the Iranis to pass on their devices once its done.

If I was Iran would be thinking in this way. If I go nuclear they can attack me. If all 7 (6 + 1) of us go nuclear together, they can't do squat.

If anyone wants to suggest that Iran is looking forward to become a regional bully with its weaponry, then I find that really off-the-mark. Iran KNOWS its on thin ice. I think it will be ready to beg, borrow and steal any friends it can get.

iran's nukes arent ready yet. i think the west is bidding its time. they need time to pull out of iraq. so they keep slamming sanctions on iran to try slow their enrichment process. once iran's nukes are about ready, they'll attack the nuclear reactors, blowing them to dust.

even if america does squat, israel will react. remember in 1980 they attacked osirak. thats when USA and USSR were supporting iraq agiants iran. israel still attacked them. to israel, national security is most important, not world opinion. its not a question of if, but of when, israel will attack Iran if USA doesnt.