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The Greek government reacted strongly after Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez agreed with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan to enhance their countries’ collaboration in the defence industry.

When the two leaders met in Ankara on Wednesday (17 November), Erdoğan praised Sánchez announcing armament programs in cooperation with Spain.

In particular, he reminded that Turkey, in cooperation with Spain, built the amphibious assault ship of the Turkish Navy “Anadolu”, which can be configured as a light aircraft carrier.

The Turkish President also proposed the construction of an even larger aircraft carrier for his country.

“Our goal is to build a large aircraft carrier. Maybe we will make efforts in the submarines field too. We will take these steps. There are many things we can do together in the defence industry,” Erdoğan said.

Erdoğan added that Spain’s stance toward Turkey should be viewed as a “role model” by other EU nations and expressed his satisfaction about the investments of more than 600 Spanish companies in Turkey.

“The presence of Spanish bank BBWA is the most concrete sign of confidence in Turkey,” he said.

Spain has been opposing Greece’s request for EU sanctions against Turkey since the very beginning of the tensions in the Eastern Mediterranean over gas exploration activities.

Greece says Turkey had been violating the international law by conducting gas exploration activities in its territorial waters.

In October 2020, Greek foreign minister Nikos Dendias sent a letter to his counterparts from Germany, Spain, and Italy, pointing out the need to impose an arms embargo against Turkey.

According to official data of the Stockholm International Peace Institute, Spain and Italy are the main European suppliers of weapons to Turkey.

Particularly, for the 2015-2019 period, 43% of arms imports to Turkey came from Italy and Spain.

Athens, Spanish opposition ‘annoyed’

The Spanish-Turkish flirt has annoyed Athens.

Greek government spokesperson Giannis Oikonomou said it “goes without saying” that EU member states are bound by the decisions of the EU Council on matters concerning “relations with Turkey and the latter’s provocations and infringements of the international law”.

“The socialist Spanish prime minister should have taken into account the overall stance of the European Council,” the Greek official said.

In Athens, critics suggest that the Spanish-Turkish rapprochement is not a coincidence especially after a Greece and France signed a landmark military agreement that provides mutual assistance in the event of one party coming under attack by a third country, even if the latter belongs to NATO.

Analysts estimate that Spain does not see France’s increasing involvement in the Eastern Mediterranean in positive light.

Sánchez’s push for closer ties with Turkey also drew the criticism of the main opposition party in Spain.

Pablo Casado, leader of the centre-right People’s Party, stressed that his party continues to support the territorial integrity of Greece and Cyprus.

“After Sánchez’s visit to Turkey, we at the People’s Party (PP) reiterate that we stand for the territorial integrity of Greece and Cyprus as members of the European Union and respect for human rights and the common security and immigration policy in our international relations,” he said.

 
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The Greek government reacted strongly after Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez agreed with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan to enhance their countries’ collaboration in the defence industry.

When the two leaders met in Ankara on Wednesday (17 November), Erdoğan praised Sánchez announcing armament programs in cooperation with Spain.

In particular, he reminded that Turkey, in cooperation with Spain, built the amphibious assault ship of the Turkish Navy “Anadolu”, which can be configured as a light aircraft carrier.

The Turkish President also proposed the construction of an even larger aircraft carrier for his country.

“Our goal is to build a large aircraft carrier. Maybe we will make efforts in the submarines field too. We will take these steps. There are many things we can do together in the defence industry,” Erdoğan said.

Erdoğan added that Spain’s stance toward Turkey should be viewed as a “role model” by other EU nations and expressed his satisfaction about the investments of more than 600 Spanish companies in Turkey.

“The presence of Spanish bank BBWA is the most concrete sign of confidence in Turkey,” he said.

Spain has been opposing Greece’s request for EU sanctions against Turkey since the very beginning of the tensions in the Eastern Mediterranean over gas exploration activities.

Greece says Turkey had been violating the international law by conducting gas exploration activities in its territorial waters.

In October 2020, Greek foreign minister Nikos Dendias sent a letter to his counterparts from Germany, Spain, and Italy, pointing out the need to impose an arms embargo against Turkey.

According to official data of the Stockholm International Peace Institute, Spain and Italy are the main European suppliers of weapons to Turkey.

Particularly, for the 2015-2019 period, 43% of arms imports to Turkey came from Italy and Spain.

Athens, Spanish opposition ‘annoyed’

The Spanish-Turkish flirt has annoyed Athens.

Greek government spokesperson Giannis Oikonomou said it “goes without saying” that EU member states are bound by the decisions of the EU Council on matters concerning “relations with Turkey and the latter’s provocations and infringements of the international law”.

“The socialist Spanish prime minister should have taken into account the overall stance of the European Council,” the Greek official said.

In Athens, critics suggest that the Spanish-Turkish rapprochement is not a coincidence especially after a Greece and France signed a landmark military agreement that provides mutual assistance in the event of one party coming under attack by a third country, even if the latter belongs to NATO.

Analysts estimate that Spain does not see France’s increasing involvement in the Eastern Mediterranean in positive light.

Sánchez’s push for closer ties with Turkey also drew the criticism of the main opposition party in Spain.

Pablo Casado, leader of the centre-right People’s Party, stressed that his party continues to support the territorial integrity of Greece and Cyprus.

“After Sánchez’s visit to Turkey, we at the People’s Party (PP) reiterate that we stand for the territorial integrity of Greece and Cyprus as members of the European Union and respect for human rights and the common security and immigration policy in our international relations,” he said.

Turkey got angry when they heard of our deal with the French and then they got even more annoyed by our deal with the Americans 🤷🏻‍♂️ So now they want to get even.
 
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The sick man of Europe is also a cry baby lolz.
You have to acknowledge that Turkey was crying first,after they learned of our frigate and mutual defence deal with France. Later the escalated when the Americans started unloading forces in Alexandroupoli for exercises.


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It's like Indians calling Pakistan a "crybaby" every time they have a deal.

Admit it,we all nag about each other's arms deals. India talks about Pakistan all day,Pakistan talks about India all day,Israelis about Arabs,Arabs about Israelis,Iranians about Israel and America,Greece about Turkey,Turkey about Greece,Ukraine about Russia,South Korea about North Korea,North Korea about South Korea.
 
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Greece is a superpower according to him.
Greeks are funny and distort their pathetic history just like Indians. They claim Alexander, the Macedonian as a "Greek". The fact is that in the Greek city states, only Thracians and Macedonians were good soldiers. That is why they have a problem with the name Macedonia. The Turks ruled over them and Balkans and they conveniently cease to overlook that or the FACT that Turkey is 10 times bigger in every sense. Greece is totally broke and living on German money.
 
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Greece is a superpower according to him.
I think you're mistaking him with MMM-E. The boy doesn't say that Greece is a superpower. On the contrary,it's people like MMM-E who present Turkey as a world superpower that can destroy the US fleet and has weapons that others don't. Apollon is very emotional,well like I used to be at his age,but he doesn't say something crazy when it comes to this. There's a lot of people here though who do see the Turkish Army as a kind of WWII Wehrmacht that can march undefeated thanks to drones and indigenous new systems.

Why did our government and some others protest to the Spaniards? Because we're supposed to be the EU and have a common foreign policy when it comes to Erdogan's provocations. And here's the thing: If Erdogan played by the book and was a good neighbor to everyone and a good ally to whoever he is allied too (that's not just NATO),Turkey would not have diplomatic problems. Neither we nor others would have protested about Turkey acquiring aircraft carriers from Spain or F-16Vs from USA or S-400s from Russia etc.
Greeks are funny and distort their pathetic history just like Indians. They claim Alexander, the Macedonian as a "Greek". The fact is that in the Greek city states, only Thracians and Macedonians were good soldiers. That is why they have a problem with the name Macedonia. The Turks ruled over them and Balkans and they conveniently cease to overlook that or the FACT that Turkey is 10 times bigger in every sense. Greece is totally broke and living on German money.
If you think that Alexander and Macedonians were not Greek,then you are in some serious denial or ignorance. I could give you a very long list of sources proving what the whole world knows,that Alexander and ancient Macedonia being 100% Hellenic,but it would derail the thread completely.
 
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Greeks are funny and distort their pathetic history just like Indians. They claim Alexander, the Macedonian as a "Greek". The fact is that in the Greek city states, only Thracians and Macedonians were good soldiers. That is why they have a problem with the name Macedonia. The Turks ruled over them and Balkans and they conveniently cease to overlook that or the FACT that Turkey is 10 times bigger in every sense. Greece is totally broke and living on German money.


I couldnt care less. I never claimed that Greece is a superpower, maybe you are not fluent in english, so i pardon you.

As for our soldiers, still sad that all your soldiers became fertilizer on greek soil at Marathon and Plataea? And food for the fish at Salamis.

As for the spain / turkey deal, i dont care either. Spsin needs money, let them get money, beside that there is nothing more behind it.
Greece is a superpower according to him.


When did i say Greece is a superpower? Never. I assume your english is not the best, so you misunderstood.
 
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