Govt to unfreeze accounts of TLP seminaries: Sheikh Rashid

[Xestan]

Govt to unfreeze accounts of TLP seminaries: Rashid
Interior minister says cabinet to take up release of Saad Rizvi, other TLP demands on Wednesday

ISLAMABAD: The federal government has decided to unfreeze the bank accounts of seminaries associated with the banned Tehreek-e-Labbaik Pakistan (TLP) on the directives of Prime Minister Imran Khan, said Interior Minister Sheikh Rashid Ahmed on Monday.

Addressing the media, the federal minister said the accounts were being activated as of now, terming the ongoing dialogue with the banned outfit “good”.

The decision to unfreeze TLP’s assets came days after violent clashes in Lahore left three policemen and as many TLP workers dead. The TLP, however, managed to continue its march towards Islamabad despite hurdles.

Currently, they are staging a “peaceful protest” on GT Road, near Murdike, about 50km from the provincial capital, till the acceptance of their demands.

The decision to halt the march was taken after talks with Rashid who came back from Dubai to lead the dialogue.
As per the talks, Saad Rizvi, detained in a Lahore jail since April, will be released while his name will be removed from the Fourth Schedule as well. Moreover, cases against the banned outfit’s workers will be quashed.

Speaking about the dialogue process, the interior minister said he was chairing the meetings of the negotiating committee at the “insistence” of TLP chief Saad Rizvi. “Talks were still being held with the negotiating committee, and negotiations continued today as well,” he added.

According to Rashid, he signed the agreement and he will see to its compliance. “I am in favour of [peaceful] settlement,” he said, adding that after the government removed the containers, the banned religious part opened one side of the road for traffic.

Rashid added that Prime Minister Imran Khan will chair a cabinet meeting on Wednesday wherein the demands of the TLP, including the release of Saad Rizvi, will be discussed. For now, the government agreed to unfreeze the accounts linked to the outfits seminaries.

According to Rashid, peaceful protest is the right of political parties.

Govt accepts TLP’s conditions to end protests: Rashid | The Express Tribune

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tribune.com.pk

 

[Sayfullah]

Keep him locked up!
If we bow down to their demands today they’ll always blackmail the state forever.
Lock them all up if we need to!

including the release of Saad Rizvi,

 

[VCheng]

The federal government has decided to unfreeze the bank accounts of seminaries associated with the banned Tehreek-e-Labbaik Pakistan (TLP) on the directives of Prime Minister Imran Khan, said Interior Minister Sheikh Rashid Ahmed on Monday.

And then we complain about FATF being too harsh.

 

[313ghazi]

And then we complain about FATF being too harsh.

To be fair the accounts were locked as a political act, not as part of any legitimate criminal investigation.

 

[VCheng]

To be fair the accounts were locked as a political act, not as part of any legitimate criminal investigation.

The problem is the government may be perceived as caving in to protests by radicalized movements.

 

[R Wing]

Keep him locked up!
If we bow down to their demands today they’ll always blackmail the state forever.
Lock them all up if we need to!

Of course. Even a child understands that.

But what you are saying only applies in a functioning state, not a quasi banana republic where leaders only think about stability under their short-term power stints, not about what's better for the country in the longer term.

To be fair the accounts were locked as a political act, not as part of any legitimate criminal investigation.

Regardless --- is this the time in which to unfreeze them? When it is clearly apparent that the government is caving into multiple demands like dominos?

Govt to unfreeze accounts of TLP seminaries: Rashid
Interior minister says cabinet to take up release of Saad Rizvi, other TLP demands on Wednesday

ISLAMABAD: The federal government has decided to unfreeze the bank accounts of seminaries associated with the banned Tehreek-e-Labbaik Pakistan (TLP) on the directives of Prime Minister Imran Khan, said Interior Minister Sheikh Rashid Ahmed on Monday.

Addressing the media, the federal minister said the accounts were being activated as of now, terming the ongoing dialogue with the banned outfit “good”.

The decision to unfreeze TLP’s assets came days after violent clashes in Lahore left three policemen and as many TLP workers dead. The TLP, however, managed to continue its march towards Islamabad despite hurdles.

Currently, they are staging a “peaceful protest” on GT Road, near Murdike, about 50km from the provincial capital, till the acceptance of their demands.

The decision to halt the march was taken after talks with Rashid who came back from Dubai to lead the dialogue.
As per the talks, Saad Rizvi, detained in a Lahore jail since April, will be released while his name will be removed from the Fourth Schedule as well. Moreover, cases against the banned outfit’s workers will be quashed.

Speaking about the dialogue process, the interior minister said he was chairing the meetings of the negotiating committee at the “insistence” of TLP chief Saad Rizvi. “Talks were still being held with the negotiating committee, and negotiations continued today as well,” he added.

According to Rashid, he signed the agreement and he will see to its compliance. “I am in favour of [peaceful] settlement,” he said, adding that after the government removed the containers, the banned religious part opened one side of the road for traffic.

Rashid added that Prime Minister Imran Khan will chair a cabinet meeting on Wednesday wherein the demands of the TLP, including the release of Saad Rizvi, will be discussed. For now, the government agreed to unfreeze the accounts linked to the outfits seminaries.

According to Rashid, peaceful protest is the right of political parties.

Govt accepts TLP’s conditions to end protests: Rashid | The Express Tribune

Signals unfreezing accounts, releasing its chief; minister says it is the third largest political party of Punjab

tribune.com.pk

Message (shorter version):
Please don't hurt us, we'll do anything you say! And more! We want to spread the message loud and clear that anybody can use thuggery to effectively blackmail the government and bring the entire nation to a halt.

Message (longer version):
Threaten a march toward capital like a bunch of thugs (and also kill policemen), and we --- as the State of Pakistan --- will:
1.) Distribute cash to you via DG Rangers Punjab
2.) Do a deal with you via the internal wing Maj Gen of the ISI (it was Faiz back then as a 2-star)
3.) Release your people held in jail for destruction of property, etc.
4.) Unfreeze the accounts of your seminaries
5.) Initiate legal proceedings against judges that question the Army's involvement in appeasement of these elements (at the IHC and SCP)
6.) Try our best to bend over backwards to accommodate your other demands

 

[313ghazi]

The problem is the government may be perceived as caving in to protests by radicalized movements.

I agree. In reality it is doing just that.

They make a rod for thier own back. First they cave into these stupid demands. Then they label them terrorists. Then they backtrack.

 

[Vapnope]

Caving in to extremists...
Wait for taliban 2.0 in future..

Pakistan ka Khuda hafiz !

 

[313ghazi]

Regardless --- is this the time in which to unfreeze them? When it is clearly apparent that the government is caving into multiple demands like dominos?

IK govt and Bajwa have consistently mishandled extremism. A few examples that come to mind...

1. Letting PTM contest a seat unchallenged in the election, all that misunderstood brothers nonsense.
2. Buckling to the anti Qaidiyani pressure wrt Atif Mian
3. Negociating with TLP on the French issue in the first place
4. The release of Ehsanullah Ehsan
5. Failure to curb the return of the TTP
6. Failure to launch a full scale operation in Balochistan
7. Failure to fence and mine the border with Iran

Of course our legal system and judicary is to blame too. CJP Drama-baaz Saqib Nisar eventually freed Asia Bibi - but what was done of the 3 judges who convicted her in the presence of such shoddy/flimsy evidence? Or the police who charged her? Nothing. Why were hundreds of terrorists set free by the courts?

The govt itself is now playing a hypocritical role. Saad Rizvi was detained under some flimsy draconion anti terror legislation, they didn't respond to his lawyers and the courts declare his detention illegal months ago. Yet the govt continued. Imran Khan seems to have forgotten how Musharraf arrested him illegally under the same draconion laws in 2007.

You make mistake after mistake - at some point you're so exposed anyone and everyone can have their way with you.

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

And then we complain about FATF being too harsh.

TLP is Pakistan internal problem not of FATF. They don't have links with any militant group. So whats with your illinformed comment ?
P.S. don't consider me their supporters, they are irritant and undesirable bunch of people but so far they don't have any militant link.

 

[Itachi]

TLP aside. People are unhappy with the Govt. so they went on to do protests.......Govt detained Saad Rizvi in April under the Pakistan's Anti-Terrorism Act (1997), which lead to more protests....

On July 8th, the LHC (Lahore High Court) rejected extending Saad's detention, stating the government had no evidence to keep him in custody. Fyi he was booked under the "anti-terrorism" act.....where and when did he do terrorist activities??

His detention was however later extended by the government for 90 days under the Anti-Terrorism Act 1997.

But he'll be released soon since the case against him makes no sense. Detaining him made no sense either since he's just a figurehead. If/when he dies, another person among the 220M Pakistanis will rise up demanding justice. What'll the govt. do then??

Sources:

1) https://tribune.com.pk/story/2309482/review-board-orders-release-of-tlp-chief

2) https://www.dawn.com/news/1634769/plea-against-saad-rizvis-detention-disposed-of


Don't quote me if you're gonna state your personal opinion on the matter......I only reply to facts.

IK govt and Bajwa have consistently mishandled extremism. A few examples that come to mind...

1. Letting PTM contest a seat unchallenged in the election, all that misunderstood brothers nonsense.
2. Buckling to the anti Qaidiyani pressure wrt Atif Mian
3. Negociating with TLP on the French issue in the first place
4. The release of Ehsanullah Ehsan
5. Failure to curb the return of the TTP
6. Failure to launch a full scale operation in Balochistan
7. Failure to fence and mine the border with Iran

Of course our legal system and judicary is to blame too. CJP Drama-baaz Saqib Nisar eventually freed Asia Bibi - but what was done of the 3 judges who convicted her in the presence of such shoddy/flimsy evidence? Or the police who charged her? Nothing. Why were hundreds of terrorists set free by the courts?

The govt itself is now playing a hypocritical role. Saad Rizvi was detained under some flimsy draconion anti terror legislation, they didn't respond to his lawyers and the courts declare his detention illegal months ago. Yet the govt continued. Imran Khan seems to have forgotten how Musharraf arrested him illegally under the same draconian laws in 2007.

You make mistake after mistake - at some point you're so exposed anyone and everyone can have their way with you.

While I'm a supporter of TLP (in moral and some political matters), I wholeheartedly agree with the rest of your points. The govt. has mishandled many issues, especially the ones you mentioned.

And to me and I'm sure to many others, actual terrorism and terrorists in Baluchistan and rest of Pakistan are a bigger threat than TLP will ever be.

The kill count of BLA/BLF/TTP and other terrorists way outweighs TLP's.............not to mention the economic disruption or regression caused by the aforementioned 3 groups and their allies in or outside Pakistan.

Of course our legal system and judicary is to blame too. CJP Drama-baaz Saqib Nisar eventually freed Asia Bibi - but what was done of the 3 judges who convicted her in the presence of such shoddy/flimsy evidence? Or the police who charged her? Nothing. Why were hundreds of terrorists set free by the courts?

Actual terrorists freed by the court and civilians detained under the terrorist act. What an irony.


As they say, Allah hi malik hai.

 

[VCheng]

I agree. In reality it is doing just that.

They make a rod for thier own back. First they cave into these stupid demands. Then they label them terrorists. Then they backtrack.

Such policies are self-defeating in the end. U-turns and roundabouts make for a needlessly long journey to the destination.

 

[VCheng]

TLP is Pakistan internal problem not of FATF. They don't have links with any militant group.

LOL. Right. Try making the claim that internal banking and non traceable cash flows to and from organizations like TLP are Pakistan's internal matter, and see what happens with FATF.

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

What was the PTI Government thinking doing panga with TLP?

Yes, the very same TLP it relied on to win religious sentiment during the 2018 elections. Like it also relied on the Tahir-ul-Qadri's PAT fanatics during the failed 126-day long foreign funded siege of the Pakistani capital in 2014.

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

LOL. Right. Try making the claim that internal banking and non traceable cash flows to and from organizations like TLP are Pakistan's internal matter, and see what happens with FATF.

TLP is not TTP.