Gora Grana
Afghanistan and Pakistan shouldn't be enemies. They both have alot in common. The religion, culture and languages are common to both the countries. That's what I have been trying to explain to both Pakistanis and Afghans. Afghanistan's longest border is with Pakistan and Pakistan's with Afghanistan. Neither of them can be towed away to let's say the Caribbean or the Middle East no matter how much the hatters want. If the two work together they can dominate the whole of South/Central Asia as was done in the past.
Ashna:-
1) What Afghanistan need is a determined leadership at the top who has the courage to stand up to this terror machine coming across the border, you don't need billions what you need is to provide a clear definition of the ENEMY to the Afghan people which in this case is the Pakistani Establishment, once the enemy is identified then policies will be enacted accordingly and people can be mobilized.What Karzai is saying most of the time is self contradictory,sometimes he labels Pakistan a brother and the next day as an enemy, therefore a change in leadership is needed, please note we have no hatred of the common Pakistani but your Establishment is the enemy period. It is actively supporting elements over the last 10 years to subvert Afghanistan. Once Pakistan is marked as an enemy people will be forced to do whatever they have to make a fence, put landmines do whats needed, remember the great wall of China!! I remember pretty well when Dr Najib came out to Ariana square in Kabul stating that Jalalabad is being attacked by Afghan traitors with the assistance of Pakistani military, people were mobilized and suddenly the tide of the battle changed and the so called Mujahidden got such a beating with loads of them rotting on the streets.
Other commentators on this page will not understand but you as a Pakhtoon (an Afghan by blood) know this very well that once Afghans are shown a direction and a clear vision of the enemy then a far superior force matters not, we will bleed you and hurt you and don't give a damn about our losses. You really don't want an active AFGHAN enemy on your Border!!!
Afghanistan should not be backward and a conflict zone forever, we don't want international players to come and settle their scores with Afghan blood. And I disagree that the Pakistan establishment is a problem for Afghanistan, their is no point in having an enemy next door, especially one with which you have to meet everyday. It's in the interest of the Pakistani people and government to have a stable and prosperous Afghanistan along with Pakistan. There has been conflict in the past as Pakistan and Afghanistan were in the opposite blocs during the cold war years.
But I will say is that if you are upset about Pakistani conduct during the cold war, then you should have the same opinion about the US, Saudi Arabia and others as well, what amazes me is that the old Shoravyan of Afghanistan are best pals with the turbo-capitalists today, is that stupidity or opportunism.
As for the last decade is concerned it is actually an Afghan insurgency, the worst Pakistan would have done is to not apprehend the insurgency's leadership. But on the other hand they have provided intelligence and land-routes to the Western Alliance as well. So overall the Pakistani impact on the conflict would be neutral. As it has probably supported both the parties to the Afghan conflict. I would call it hedging your bets.
2) As for the Afghans in Pakistan, I would say that once you are termed as a hostile state, then those self respecting Afghans must leave your country immediately, those who don't you are most welcome to deport!!! .
To this I would say that, lar o bar Pukhtoon yav de. Don't try to create enmity and walls of hatred. Work towards peace and reconciliation.
3) One thing that Pakistani Establishment forget that Afghanistan as a nation will not fragment we may have not a strong state at times and live a miserable life but we are very proud as a nation, just imagine this 30 years of war has not succeeded in fragmenting us, BUT can you say the same for Pakistan?? Half of Pakistan went away in 1971, there is an active insurgency going on in Fata, the Balouch want a separate homeland, Karachi is burning, can you really play this game of actively subverting Afghanistan any longer?? Remember we have nothing to lose....
Again their is no point in celebrating the misery and hardship be that in Afghanistan or Pakistan. The foreigners are on their way out, but the Pakistanis and Afghans have to live with each other.
If Karachi is burning, it should be cause of concern for Afghanistan as a lot of Afghans work there and it's the port for most of Afghanistan's imports and exports.
If there is insurgency in Balochistan, and somehow they succeed then they will ask Afghanistan for the Baloch land as well. Remember there are Balochs in Afghanistan too.
If America is droning FATA or there are bomb attack in Pakhtonkhwa then as you explained it's Afghan blood that is being spilled.
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nangyale - You were saying wrror ?
Judging by the comments above do you still want me to believe 'once you sit down with them & explain it they're different' ?
As long there is life there is hope.
I believe in reconciliation, two brotherly countries living in peace and harmony and helping each other.
I am totally against building walls of hatred.
Karzai is soft, we need someone like Amrullah Saleh at the top, an eye for an eye.
