Germany: Two-State Solution Key to Palestinian-Israeli Peace

[The SC]

Sunday, 9 June, 2019 - 18:00

German Foreign Minister Heiko Maas (L) meets with his Jordanian counterpart Ayman Safadi on June 9, 2019 in Amman. (AFP)

Asharq Al-Awsat

German Foreign Minister Heiko Maas on Sunday reaffirmed his country's support for a two-state solution to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict ahead of a long-awaited US peace plan.

"We are still in agreement that reaching a two-state solution through negotiations is the only solution," he told a press conference in Amman with his Jordanian counterpart.

"We and Germany agree that the two-state solution is the only way to end the conflict," Jordanian Foreign Minister Ayman Safadi said.

Washington is gearing up to roll out economic aspects of its plan at a conference in Bahrain later this month, but it is not yet clear when its political details will be unveiled.

The Palestinians have already rejected the deal, citing a string of moves by US President Donald Trump they say show his administration is irredeemably biased.

Maas and Safadi met a day after US ambassador to Israel David Friedman was quoted by the New York Times as saying Israel had the "right" to annex at least parts of the occupied West Bank.

Palestinian leaders said the US envoy's comments showed "extremists" were involved in White House policy on the issue.

Israel occupied the West Bank in the 1967 Six-Day War and its construction of settlements there is viewed as a major stumbling block to peace as they are built on land the Palestinians see as part of their future state.

Friedman has in the past been a supporter of Israeli settlements as has the family of Jared Kushner, Trump's son-in-law and adviser leading efforts to put together the peace deal.

Kushner has hinted that it will not endorse international calls for the creation of a Palestinian state.

Several UN resolutions have enshrined the two-state solution, which envisages separate homelands for Jews and Palestinians, as the path to a peace settlement.

Both ministers also stressed the importance of the United Nations agency for Palestinian refugees, just weeks after the US called for it to be dismantled after cutting its roughly $300 million annual donation.

Jordan is home to nearly 2.2 million Palestinian refugees, who make up almost half of the kingdom's population.


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[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

Everyone (as in all Arab and Muslim countries and most countries of the world) support a two-state solution. Even most Israelis (if I am not wrong) support it. Yet somehow it has not been done for 70+ years mainly due to the radical minority of Jews in power whose ideology is that Israel is only for Jews AND the US that happens to be pro-Israel and the most powerful country in the world. In the US there is also an insane amount of radical Christians who support Israel even though Jews killed their "God". The same people that used to oppress, look down on, sterilize etc. Mizrahi Arabs (Arab and Middle Eastern Jews who are the majority of Israel today) who arrived from countries such as Yemen, Iraq, Morocco and others in order to keep their birth levels low or to steal their babies and give them to childless Ashkenazi couples.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/20/world/middleeast/israel-yemenite-children-affair.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yemenite_Children_Affair

KSA, the biggest financial supporter (of all Muslim countries overall) in the past 70 years to Palestine and Palestinian PEOPLE, have to date made the best and most realistic peace proposal (two-state solution) called the Arab Peace Initiative. Almost 20 years ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Peace_Initiative

Unlike certain countries we don't use this conflict for political gains. Our track record speaks for itself. From before Israel was funded, our sons and daughters sent martyrs to the battle front and fought bravely and inflicted many casualties on the enemy.

Israel, while apparently (according to successive governments) agreeing with much of the content, is yet to make any serious step towards implementing it.

What have other countries done? Not seeing much if anything. Yet we have retards here on PDF barking against KSA while hosting 0 Palestinians (unlike KSA).

Germany should keep quiet. If not for their retarded ancestors (Nazis) there would be no Israel. To this day they are giving weapons, money etc. FOR FREE to Israel, support it 100% and speak a word against Jews or Israel in Germany, and you are sent to jail. European powers helped mess up the region and betrayed it (UK), they should keep out.

 

[newb3e]

trump just decleared germany axis of evil!! how dare they talk about two states when the whole middleeast is jewish ancestor land!

 

[HAIDER]

Two state solution is very much failed concept, because Israel already expanded the shelters for settlers in remaining lands of Palastine state " a lollypop for Palastinian people " ..................................... forget it. Soon Palastinian will be pushed in Lebanon,Syria and may be Egypt.

 

[Mamadouso]

Everyone (as in all Arab and Muslim countries and most countries of the world) support a two-state solution. Even most Israelis (if I am not wrong) support it. Yet somehow it has not been done for 70+ years mainly due to the radical minority of Jews in power whose ideology is that Israel is only for Jews AND the US that happens to be pro-Israel and the most powerful country in the world. In the US there is also an insane amount of radical Christians who support Israel even though Jews killed their "God". The same people that used to oppress, look down on, sterilize etc. Mizrahi Arabs (Arab and Middle Eastern Jews who are the majority of Israel today) who arrived from countries such as Yemen, Iraq, Morocco and others in order to keep their birth levels low or to steal their babies and give them to childless Ashkenazi couples.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/20/world/middleeast/israel-yemenite-children-affair.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yemenite_Children_Affair

KSA, the biggest financial supporter (of all Muslim countries overall) in the past 70 years to Palestine and Palestinian PEOPLE, have to date made the best and most realistic peace proposal (two-state solution) called the Arab Peace Initiative. Almost 20 years ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Peace_Initiative

Unlike certain countries we don't use this conflict for political gains. Our track record speaks for itself. From before Israel was funded, our sons and daughters sent martyrs to the battle front and fought bravely and inflicted many casualties on the enemy.

Israel, while apparently (according to successive governments) agreeing with much of the content, is yet to make any serious step towards implementing it.

What have other countries done? Not seeing much if anything. Yet we have retards here on PDF barking against KSA while hosting 0 Palestinians (unlike KSA).

Germany should keep quiet. If not for their retarded ancestors (Nazis) there would be no Israel. To this day they are giving weapons, money etc. FOR FREE to Israel, support it 100% and speak a word against Jews or Israel in Germany, and you are sent to jail. European powers helped mess up the region and betrayed it (UK), they should keep out.

I think even without the Nazis they still would have set up Israel at some point. There were already European Jewish settlers buying up land in the 1920s.

The Palestinians should have accepted the much better 1947 partition.

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

I think even without the Nazis they still would have set up Israel at some point. There were already European Jewish settlers buying up land in the 1920s.

The Palestinians should have accepted the much better 1947 partition.

Long before that the Ottomans (who administrated the land) and some locals were selling land to Jewish migrants from Europe.

Described below here aside from it being common knowledge:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_land_purchase_in_Palestine

Of course the push towards a Jewish state was mainly the work of wealthy Jewish families in Europe (UK, Germany and France mainly). Rothschilds in particular.

There was also the British betrayal of Sharif Hussein ibn Ali.

When (in 1947) you suddenly lose land to a foreign and hostile entity you don't think 70 years into the past and think that the situation might be worse but fight. Hindsight is easy.

 

[Mamadouso]

Long before that the Ottomans (who administrated the land) and some locals were selling land to Jewish migrants from Europe.

Described below here aside from it being common knowledge:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_land_purchase_in_Palestine

Of course the push towards a Jewish state was mainly the work of wealthy Jewish families in Europe (UK, Germany and France mainly). Rothschilds in particular.

There was also the British betrayal of Sharif Hussein ibn Ali.

When (in 1947) you suddenly lose land to a foreign and hostile entity you don't think 70 years into the past and think that the situation might be worse but fight. Hindsight is easy.

Yes I understand, but that should tell the Palestinians that the upcoming deal, even though it may be a petty offering compared to what they deserve, should just be accepted once and for all.

As long as Israel remains at the heart of the US Evangelical establishment, the longer the Palestinians wait the worse it will get for them.

 

[The SC]

Yes I understand, but that should tell the Palestinians that the upcoming deal, even though it may be a petty offering compared to what they deserve, should just be accepted once and for all.

As long as Israel remains at the heart of the US Evangelical establishment, the longer the Palestinians wait the worse it will get for them.

Maybe yes, maybe no.. since apartheid and colonial regimes have always failed and disappeared..

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

@HAIDER

Pakistani journalist based in the US. Great report that showcases the extremism of those settlers.

 

[HAIDER]

@HAIDER

Pakistani journalist based in the US. Great report that showcases the extremism of those settlers.

ok , here is i am telling you a contact, i am always interested in history and architecture. One of my classmate was Arab Jew from Palastine , i usually ask him about there migration and history related questions in spare time. One day while he was sitting and another guy from eastern europe happened to be jew entered out discussion about Palastine history. Now, things turned hot, Arab Jews totally refused to accept him real Jew. Arab jew guy , presented all his tribal credential going to back to hundreds of years, but Eastern european dude was kept on giving his explanation about being jew from holy land. At the end both go back to there classes and issue never resolved.
I just listen the whole conversation and come to the point, where I realized that Arab jews has undeniable credential to prove that land belong to them, but East European dude.... defence was not very appealing . in short.
At the end i have also noticed Pan Arab nationalism seems very strong and arab stands with arab.

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

ok , here is i am telling you a contact, i am always interested in history and architecture. One of my classmate was Arab Jew from Palastine , i usually ask him about there migration and history related questions in spare time. One day while he was sitting and another guy from eastern europe happened to be jew entered out discussion about Palastine history. Now, things turned hot, Arab Jews totally refused to accept him real Jew. Arab jew guy , presented all his tribal credential going to back to hundreds of years, but Eastern european dude was kept on giving his explanation about being jew from holy land. At the end both go back to there classes and issue never resolved.
I just listen the whole conversation and come to the point, where I realized that Arab jews has undeniable credential to prove that land belong to them, but East European dude.... defence was not very appealing . in short.
At the end i have also noticed Pan Arab nationalism seems very strong and arab stands with arab.

Arab Jews are the original Jews so nothing strange about that. Jews call them Mizrahi Jews but all of them are not any different from Muslim or Christian Arabs as DNA has confirmed ages ago.

 

[jewishm]

ok , here is i am telling you a contact, i am always interested in history and architecture. One of my classmate was Arab Jew from Palastine , i usually ask him about there migration and history related questions in spare time. One day while he was sitting and another guy from eastern europe happened to be jew entered out discussion about Palastine history. Now, things turned hot, Arab Jews totally refused to accept him real Jew. Arab jew guy , presented all his tribal credential going to back to hundreds of years, but Eastern european dude was kept on giving his explanation about being jew from holy land. At the end both go back to there classes and issue never resolved.
I just listen the whole conversation and come to the point, where I realized that Arab jews has undeniable credential to prove that land belong to them, but East European dude.... defence was not very appealing . in short.
At the end i have also noticed Pan Arab nationalism seems very strong and arab stands with arab.

"where I realized that Arab jews has undeniable credential to prove that land belong to them" can you explain what he says that made you think like that ? my jewish family is syrian and moroccan btw.

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

"where I realized that Arab jews has undeniable credential to prove that land belong to them" can you explain what he says that made you think like that ? my jewish family is syrian and moroccan btw.

Probably the simple fact that Arab Jews are indigenous to the Middle East, have always lived in the region and been the vanguards of Jewish culture, Hebrew and Judaism. That they look like how the historical Jews most likely looked like. That they can trace their ancestry. That they are tied to the land.

Askhenazis claims are much more vague. Even if their great-great-great-great grandmother or grandfather was born in the Middle East centuries ago.

Anyway they now live in Israel and have done so for some 150 years (earliest migrations). They should be allowed to continue to live in Israel but not at the expense of Palestinians by building illegal settlements in the West Bank.