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Gen Petraeus scraps McChrystal's strategy
Updated at: 1245 PST, Sunday, July 25, 2010 ShareThis story

KABUL: Gen David Petraeus, the new US commander in Afghanistan, has scrapped his predecessor's plan to secure the southern city of Kandahar.

He has decided a full-scale military encirclement and invasion – as American troops had done in Iraq's Fallujah – was not an appropriate model to tackle the Taliban in the southern capital.

Gen Petraeus's decision to revise the entire strategy comes just weeks after he arrived in Afghanistan following the abrupt dismissal of Gen Stanley McChrystal for insubordination.

Gen McChrystal had planned a summer conquest of the Taliban in Kandahar to reinvigorate the battle against the Taliban.

But the operation has been repeatedly delayed by concerns that it would not adequately restore the confidence of city residents in the security forces.

Gen Petraeus is reported to believe that the operation must be a broad-ranging counter-insurgency campaign, involving more troops working with local militias.

The plan he inherited was criticised for placing too much emphasis on targeted assassinations of key insurgent leaders and not enough on winning over local residents.

Richard Holbrooke, the US special envoy to Afghanistan and Pakistan, said yesterday that the US-led strategy in southern Afghanistan was undergoing sweeping changes.

"Kandahar is not a military operation like Fallujah," Mr Holbrooke said. "We have Gen David Petraeus looking at the plan, scrubbing it down, looking at it again."

President Hamid Karzai has bolstered Gen Petraeus's efforts by agreeing to a US proposal to pay defectors from the Taliban to form local defence militias.

Mr Holbrooke, who oversees the civilian component of the American campaign in Afghanistan, has been described by Gen Petraeus as his "wing man" in the effort to reverse Taliban gains.

He said that the changes of strategy in the area also included a decision not to destroy poppy crops this year, an action that had in the past "driven" farmers into alliance with the Taliban.

He also said that the Afghan police force in Marjah – which now numbers 60 – could not yet replace thousands of US Marines. Efforts to stabilise Helmand's Marjah have been bogged down by stronger resistance.

Gen Petraeus recruited prominent military experts who assisted him in the surge of forces that brought stability to Iraq.

Stephen Biddle, a military strategist at the US Council for Foreign Relations, coauthored as suggestion that the US would be successful in Afghanistan if it could set up a strong local government in places like Kandahar.

Defections from the Taliban are crucial to the goal of ending the war within four years but Mr Holbrooke said only insurgent groups that had split with al-Qaeda, and willing to work within the framework of the Afghan constitution would be approached.

More effort was being put into recruiting local allies on a district by district basis.

"The reintegration policy is the key to a successful counter-insurgency campaign," he said. "As for reconciliation, it's out there somewhere. We've talked about it. The US will support Afghan-led reconciliation and by that we mean we need to know what's going on. Not much is going on now, and nothing is going on with the United States."

Mr Holbrooke said Pakistan had dramatically increased its co-operation with the US in the battle against the Taliban but he criticised Islamabad's continuing support for the Haqqani network of insurgents.

"Without Pakistan's participation, this (Afghan) war could go on indefinitely," he said. "There's much more co-operation at every level

"But I don't want to mislead you, it is not yet where we hope it will be. What we talk about is the Haqqani network. Let's be very specific. It's a real problem."
Gen Petraeus scraps McChrystal's strategy
 
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Gen Petraeus scraps McChrystal's strategy

Gen Petraeus is reported to believe that the operation must be a broad-ranging counter-insurgency campaign, involving more troops working with local militias.
Gen Petraeus scraps McChrystal's strategy

This key concept was missing from the previous plan orchestrated by McChrystal . COIN must involve broad ranging campaign rather than focusing on specific pockets. McChrystal failed to reign on the logistics of the Taliban what keep them ticking.
 
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Well, lets just say alot of american "boys" just got saved from kicking the bucket.

WHATS MOST NOTICABLE is the open admission of the fact that the US needs Pakistan to win this war, along with the fact that its not just a matter of a troop surge, its gonna take sitting donw like grown ups and having negociations with the talibans. It took them 9 years to realize that despite Pakistan's constant reiteration of these facts.

That, and the Indian game in FATA almost 'srcaped out' aswell, the US is having doubts as to what the US-Indo partnership has acheievd so far.

they're starting to see that India may be MARKETED more strongly, but Pakistan is the better PRODUCT.:victory::pakistan:
 
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Well, lets just say alot of american "boys" just got saved from kicking the bucket.

WHATS MOST NOTICABLE is the open admission of the fact that the US needs Pakistan to win this war, along with the fact that its not just a matter of a troop surge, its gonna take sitting donw like grown ups and having negociations with the talibans. It took them 9 years to realize that despite Pakistan's constant reiteration of these facts.

That, and the Indian game in FATA almost 'srcaped out' aswell, the US is having doubts as to what the US-Indo partnership has acheievd so far.

they're starting to see that India may be MARKETED more strongly, but Pakistan is the better PRODUCT.:victory::pakistan:
You can't stop bringing us in the middle can you?
 
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Gen Petraeus scraps McChrystal's strategy
Updated at: 1245 PST, Sunday, July 25, 2010 ShareThis story

KABUL: Gen David Petraeus, the new US commander in Afghanistan, has scrapped his predecessor's plan to secure the southern city of Kandahar.

He has decided a full-scale military encirclement and invasion – as American troops had done in Iraq's Fallujah – was not an appropriate model to tackle the Taliban in the southern capital.

Gen Petraeus's decision to revise the entire strategy comes just weeks after he arrived in Afghanistan following the abrupt dismissal of Gen Stanley McChrystal for insubordination.

Gen McChrystal had planned a summer conquest of the Taliban in Kandahar to reinvigorate the battle against the Taliban.

But the operation has been repeatedly delayed by concerns that it would not adequately restore the confidence of city residents in the security forces.

Gen Petraeus is reported to believe that the operation must be a broad-ranging counter-insurgency campaign, involving more troops working with local militias.

The plan he inherited was criticised for placing too much emphasis on targeted assassinations of key insurgent leaders and not enough on winning over local residents.

Richard Holbrooke, the US special envoy to Afghanistan and Pakistan, said yesterday that the US-led strategy in southern Afghanistan was undergoing sweeping changes.

"Kandahar is not a military operation like Fallujah," Mr Holbrooke said. "We have Gen David Petraeus looking at the plan, scrubbing it down, looking at it again."

President Hamid Karzai has bolstered Gen Petraeus's efforts by agreeing to a US proposal to pay defectors from the Taliban to form local defence militias.

Mr Holbrooke, who oversees the civilian component of the American campaign in Afghanistan, has been described by Gen Petraeus as his "wing man" in the effort to reverse Taliban gains.

He said that the changes of strategy in the area also included a decision not to destroy poppy crops this year, an action that had in the past "driven" farmers into alliance with the Taliban.

He also said that the Afghan police force in Marjah – which now numbers 60 – could not yet replace thousands of US Marines. Efforts to stabilise Helmand's Marjah have been bogged down by stronger resistance.

Gen Petraeus recruited prominent military experts who assisted him in the surge of forces that brought stability to Iraq.

Stephen Biddle, a military strategist at the US Council for Foreign Relations, coauthored as suggestion that the US would be successful in Afghanistan if it could set up a strong local government in places like Kandahar.

Defections from the Taliban are crucial to the goal of ending the war within four years but Mr Holbrooke said only insurgent groups that had split with al-Qaeda, and willing to work within the framework of the Afghan constitution would be approached.

More effort was being put into recruiting local allies on a district by district basis.

"The reintegration policy is the key to a successful counter-insurgency campaign," he said. "As for reconciliation, it's out there somewhere. We've talked about it. The US will support Afghan-led reconciliation and by that we mean we need to know what's going on. Not much is going on now, and nothing is going on with the United States."

Mr Holbrooke said Pakistan had dramatically increased its co-operation with the US in the battle against the Taliban but he criticised Islamabad's continuing support for the Haqqani network of insurgents.

"Without Pakistan's participation, this (Afghan) war could go on indefinitely," he said. "There's much more co-operation at every level

"But I don't want to mislead you, it is not yet where we hope it will be. What we talk about is the Haqqani network. Let's be very specific. It's a real problem."
Gen Petraeus scraps McChrystal's strategy

Whenever u follow an evil path , u scrap ureself or get scrapped in the end...Infact they are ending up scrapping themselves. inshallah..:woot:
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US policy in Kandahar and the whole of Afghanistan is to work out "deals" - they can call it "reintegration" and they can call it "reconciliation" - in the end they are making "deals". Perhaps this is the correct approach in the situation they find themselves in - on the other hand, they were very unsupportive of Pakistan when it thought the same play could give it time and space to better prepare - a US "double game" some would argue, they would point to the treatment of Gen. Kayani in the Western press and suggest paralles with that of Gen. Musharraf. Mr. Holbrooke says :
What we talk about is the Haqqani network. Let's be very specific

Perhaps it's time to be very specific, surely that is at least a two way street.
 
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Good Intel? Bad Intel? -- you decide:


11 killed as Nato bombs vehicle carrying coffin



Monday, August 09, 2010

By our correspondent

PESHAWAR: Nato aircraft could hit even a funeral as it happened recently in Khogiani district in Nangarhar province in eastern Afghanistan when a vehicle carrying a coffin and the dead man’s relatives was bombed and 11 civilians including women and children were killed.

The incident happened in Hashimkhel Khwar area on August 5. The sad and surprising aspect of the bombing was that it happened five kilometres away from the site of an earlier battle that day between Taliban fighters and foreign forces in Kooz Koruna locality of Nakurkhel village. In that clash, the Nato jetfighters had also bombed the area killing 13 persons. The Nato authorities claimed all 13 were Taliban, but this was not true as among them were 12 and 13-year-old youngsters and every villager vouchsafed that they were not Taliban fighters.

For some inexplicable reason, the Nato warplanes then bombed this vehicle carrying the dead man and his relatives for funeral and stranded in Hashimkhel Khwar due to flash floods. Hashimkhel Khwar is at a distance of five kilometres from Nakurkhel village where the battle between foreign forces and Taliban fighters had taken place.

According to Muhammad Yaqoub Sharafat, a senior Afghan journalist who runs the Afghan Islamic Press and belongs to the bombed village in Khogiani district, there were no signs of battle in Hashimkhel Khwar and no evidence of presence of armed men there and even then the vehicle was bombed and civilians were killed. Through his sources, he found out that there was no justification for this bombing raid by US-led Nato forces that took the lives of 11 innocent Afghans.

“How can Nato deem civilians as Taliban five kilometres away from the battlefield? Do Nato authorities make efforts to protect civilians? Does Nato make sure that no civilians are around while bombing targets on the ground?” asked Sharafat. He said the international community and the Afghan government had failed to address the issue of civilian casualties.
 
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Good Intel? Bad Intel? -- you decide:


11 killed as Nato bombs vehicle carrying coffin



Monday, August 09, 2010

By our correspondent

PESHAWAR: Nato aircraft could hit even a funeral as it happened recently in Khogiani district in Nangarhar province in eastern Afghanistan when a vehicle carrying a coffin and the dead man’s relatives was bombed and 11 civilians including women and children were killed.

.. and they think this is what will make them Win a War. Desperate Looser! Condemn NATO and US Actions in Afghanistan and elsewhere. These guys are not good for nothing.
 
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