Future of Pakistan Bangladesh relations

[CHD]

Well in a India-Pakistan war BD would sit back and watch from distance. We will cheer on both sides to destroy each other. We aren't particularly fond of any of them. I individually would definitely be happy if a war breaks out between the two. Sorry if that makes me a d!ck. Now go on with more Uri attack and surgical strikes.

and why is that?
so you can have more fish curry??

 

[Homo Sapiens]

We should utilize that energy towards other nations which are closer and thousand times more important for us in terms of trade and energy.
Besides they are pathetically obsessive and will always be under the influence of India no matter what. So if you want Bangladesh in your camp then get India which again is strategically and economically billion times more better for us.
Over all.Seriously every effort is a complete waste. Should divert towards Iran or central Asia.

Only if they are willing to take you. Every country in the world want to avoid Pakistan as much as possible. Iranian and Central Asian are not fool.

 

[武成王]

Move on, PK and BD are far away and both are Muslim nation. If you are near neighbors, you can fight like AF and PK. However you're not. In fact you have big common interest.

 

[Mage]

Only if they are willing to take you. Every country in the world want to avoid Pakistan as much as possible. Iranian and Central Asian are not fool.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Only if they are willing to take you. Every country in the world want to avoid Pakistan as much as possible. Iranian and Central Asian are not fool.

Which is why the world's next superpower/global hyper power has already poured in at least $60 billion into Pakistan with many more billions earmarked for further investments in the coming years and decades.

Of course you're a better judge of such matters as bangladesh is a superpower that surpassess both China and America.......

Only if they are willing to take you. Every country in the world want to avoid Pakistan as much as possible. Iranian and Central Asian are not fool.

Pakistan is already establishing strong links with countries that we share the most in common with like Iran & Turkey:

http://channel24.pk/breaking-news/2...n-turkey-rail-road-corridors-operationalised/

Profit is a big incentive.It overcome a lot of inhibition.

Exactly. As Pakistan's economy is becoming more integrated into that of the world's next superpower/global hyper power and huge ToT of high-tech advanced weapons systems are taking place between China and Pakistan, we are all but set to become more powerful and advanced in every respect. The WOT since October 2001 has had a bad effect on us but the worst is over and we have come through it a stronger nation. All Pakistan needs to do now is to clear the misunderstandings we have with Iran and strengthen our relationship with them. This is significant because apart from language, Iran is the country which Pakistan has the most in common with.

 

[El Sidd]

Koi bohat hi takkabur karne wali zaleel baaghi qaum hai ye.

Inko chor do. Ye khud bay of bongowl me doob jaege

 

[Nilgiri]

Thats true, i have really good bengali friends. and some of them are really damn good. They are also fed up with their govt. propaganda on bongabandhu. But thrit govt. has created such a environment that if any ne say anything against govt. they will call him rajakar or BNP supporter. lol

The harder one squeeze ,the more will slip through the fingers. BAL goons will learn this the hard way again I think....and then cycle will repeat itself on the other side.

 

[xyxmt]

call CountryRelationship(Pakistan, Bangladesh, next100years)
returns 0

 

[Saiful Islam]

Thats true, i have really good bengali friends. and some of them are really damn good. They are also fed up with their govt. propaganda on bongabandhu. But thrit govt. has created such a environment that if any ne say anything against govt. they will call him rajakar or BNP supporter. lol

Most Bangladeshis because of social media are now aware of India's misdoings in BD and they do not hold any grudge against Pakistan, instead have always acknowledged Pakistan's military capability. The people who hold these positive opinions of Pakistan are the working class, which is the majority of BD, so don't think that Bengalis are a bunch of Pak haters, it is just a few sour berries, the ones with daddies pocket money who feel replicating their seriously prejudiced neighbours is some sort of fashion. Really they're just winding themselves up thinking Pakistan is hostile towards BD when you're so far away from us.

Propaganda artists are at large now more than ever.

I personally, always talk or reply back in English with other South Asian citizens,never spoke in Hindi or Urdu( the language I was taught back during school days in East Pakistan). However, my favorite is to speak in Sylhoti.

The Sylheti spoken in villages is just class. Persianized to the max and we don't know it.

 

[Avicenna]

Which is why the world's next superpower/global hyper power has already poured in at least $60 billion into Pakistan with many more billions earmarked for further investments in the coming years and decades.

Of course you're a better judge of such matters as bangladesh is a superpower that surpassess both China and America.......





Pakistan is already establishing strong links with countries that we share the most in common with like Iran & Turkey:

http://channel24.pk/breaking-news/2...n-turkey-rail-road-corridors-operationalised/




Exactly. As Pakistan's economy is becoming more integrated into that of the world's next superpower/global hyper power and huge ToT of high-tech advanced weapons systems are taking place between China and Pakistan, we are all but set to become more powerful and advanced in every respect. The WOT since October 2001 has had a bad effect on us but the worst is over and we have come through it a stronger nation. All Pakistan needs to do now is to clear the misunderstandings we have with Iran and strengthen our relationship with them. This is significant because apart from language, Iran is the country which Pakistan has the most in common with.

LOL. I see someone practices the "look west" policy.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

LOL. I see someone practices the "look west" policy.

And North East. It's the ONLY 2 places on Earth where our future lies. Whether Pakistanis or anyone else admits it or not, Pakistan's future is now intertwined with that of China and Turkey.

 

[Bilal9]

Bangladesh and Pakistan relations will improve only when people in both countries will rise above their petty South Asian mentality and accept tolerance, maturity, goodwill and mutual respect (for other South Asian 'races') as their Mantra. This when leaders continually dupe and manipulate their electorate that 'some' are a 'martial race' and some are not, simply to sow discord and increase military budgets.

Funny if you look at genotypes, it's the same damn people.

I'm waiting for the day when South Asians will coerce their govts. to act in mature fashion so uplifting of the human condition by education and health will be the goal rather than 'showcase projects' that line the pockets of politicians (like silly missions to Mars or supersonic cruise missiles for example) which are seen as 'development'.

But I do not see it happening in my lifetime.....

 

[Shahzaz ud din]

Sorry to say bro your personal observation is wrong.

Only if they are willing to take you. Every country in the world want to avoid Pakistan as much as possible. Iranian and Central Asian are not fool.

Every country in the world want to avoid Pakistan as much as possible.

it is true if Mujib was PM and Bangladeshis had their fair share of high posts the India-pakistan relationship would be less hostile.

the level of current hostility is high because India-Pakistan gap has grown high. Pakistan is playing a desperate game to avoid irrelevance. I do not think India-Pakistan relationship was bad in the 1980s.



West Pakistanis had no belief in Kautilya or Chanakya. May be they wised up these days

India-Pakistan gap has grown high.yes every body knows India,s gap is very wide

No one in BD claims what you said of very strong military. But, we have the right to upgrade our military strength. With more economic power we are building up a stronger military since 1971. Why do you think we are retarded when we place priority on economy and then on defence matters. But, by doing hype ups for the last few decades some countries are now unable to get away from the path of militarism and to the path of economic well being for the masses. The result is only a 3% economic growth, whereas the BD growth is more than 6.5%.

American growth rate is 2.6 % and it is colony of BD

 

[Mage]

Lol looking at these posts it feels like China will make Pakistan great again and make make India pay for it.

 

[Banglar Bir]

Book will tell story of Pakistan, Bangladesh through architecture
SAM Staff, July 15, 2017

The National Parliament House, or Jatiya Sangsad Bhaban, in Dhaka, Bangladesh, was designed by American Louis Kahn. Image: WikiCommons.

An assistant professor in the University of Kansas School of Architecture & Design, the Bangladesh native has received a Mellon-Volkswagen Fellowship to complete the writing of a book on the history of architecture in the nascent state of Pakistan. The fellowship is funded jointly by the Andrew W. Mellon Foundation and the Volkswagen Foundation.

“I am looking at the history of post-colonial Pakistan; from 1947 to 1971,” Karim said. “This is a time that has special significance in world history. Pakistan was created as a utopia. East and West Pakistan were combined together under a theoretical understanding of Muslim nationalism, even though they were 1,000 miles apart and even though East Pakistan, which later became Bangladesh, had different languages and cultural practices.”

When, after almost a century of imperial rule, Britain divested itself of the Indian subcontinent in 1947, it gave rise to two independent and religiously homogenous nations: mostly Hindu India and the two halves of mostly Muslim Pakistan that lay on either side of it.

LAWRENCE — If it’s not quite a “secret history,” then Farhan Karim’s latest project is at least an overview of an overlooked phenomenon in an important region of the world.

When East Pakistan broke away in a 1971 liberation war to become Bangladesh, it sparked a secondary conflict between (West) Pakistan and India, the flashpoint of which was and remains the province of Kashmir.

“The bloody war was an embarrassing part of history for scholars who work in Pakistan and Bangladesh,” Karim said. “In scholarly discussions, there is a large gap. I’m an architectural historian, and that is an even much less discussed area.

“I am trying to understand through the lens of architectural history how this construction of a utopian Pakistan was structured through design, and, specifically, through state-sponsored architecture. The capital of Pakistan, Islamabad, was a completely new city, a la Brasilia in Brazil or Chandigarh in India. Groups of designers arrived at that site. They were excited, yet they had a plan. They were standing in the middle of nowhere and asked to build an entire city.”

At the same time, Karim said, Pakistanis had undertaken a “massive educational reform project.” The Brits had been kicked out, and yet Pakistan had not developed a native educational infrastructure. Thus, he said, “When Pakistan was in a total nation-building project, they did not have enough architects, so they partnered with the USA.”

“The United States became a Cold War ally to Pakistan. With grants from the United States Agency for International Development and the Ford Foundation, they went to Pakistan to build that infrastructure.”

Karim said consultants poured in from the United States, Greece, Turkey, Japan and Germany. Perhaps the most famous of them was the American Louis Kahn, who designed the National Parliament House for what was East Pakistan when he received the commission, but which later became Bangladesh. Kahn was invited to design the project in Dhaka by Pakistan’s then-leader, Ayub Khan.

“When it comes to architectural history, we understand Louis Kahn as a lone genius, creating his masterpiece, but he also had a good relationship with USAID,” Karim said. “His take on the Cold War intervention in South Asia needs to be discussed. When discussing architectural history, he saw himself as a representative of the United States, working in South Asia. When we look at how Louis Kahn saw himself, embedded in a larger sociopolitical context, a new story will appear before our eyes.”

Karim said he has been researching the subject for the past five years, poring over records in archives in the United States and Greece, among other places.

“I’ve been to 15 places in the last five years,” he said. “It’s an epic story that needs epic length to tell it.”

Karim has given his book the working title “Dreaming of a Nation.” The Volkswagen-Mellon Fellowship will give him nine to 10 months off from his teaching duties so he can complete his manuscript. He will travel to Berlin to work on the book at the ZMO (Zentrum Moderner Orient, or Center for Modern Oriental Studies) research institute there.

During his previous work, Karim said, “I realized how little we know about the contemporary design history of South Asia.” The book is his attempt to remedy that situation.

The University of Kansas is a major comprehensive research and teaching university. The university’s mission is to lift students and society by educating leaders, building healthy communities and making discoveries that change the world.

[With Special Permission from the KU News Service to Republish/Translate into Bengali for South Asian Monitor]
http://southasianmonitor.com/2017/07/15/book-will-tell-story-pakistan-bangladesh-architecture/