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From India to Pakistan: 'We're not so different'

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“I found that the way Pakistanis hold conversation is very polite and there is a distinct sense of respect or tehzeeb in their conversation,” said Anupama Joshi, a teacher from Dehradun, India while describing her interaction with Pakistanis while visiting the country with a 29-member delegation in January.

“Contrary to the view that women are not seen in public places, I found the Pakistani women to be very liberated.”

The cultural trip was part of the ‘Exchange for Change’ program organised by The Citizens Archive of Pakistan and Routes2Roots. The program aimed at clearing misconceptions, giving youth from both countries a chance to experience life on the other side of the border (the group from Pakistan visited India in February).

The delegation from India was mainly students and teachers who visited Lahore, Islamabad and the archeologically-rich city Harappa and found the entire experience “exhilarating”.

“I think the food, language, the way we dress, especially the women, is fundamentally the same. I felt more at ease in terms of language and food in Lahore than I do at my in-laws place which is in south India and I come from northern India, which shares a lot of similarities with Lahore,” said Joshi.

Most of the students could not find any cultural difference at all, with one student from New Delhi, Agastya Shetty saying, “Visiting the museums made me actually realise that our history is essentially the same.”

Regarding the welcome extended by Pakistanis during the trip, Agastaya said she was pleasantly surprised.

“When the Pakistanis found out that we were from India, they went out of their way to see if we needed any assistance and would regularly check on us.”

During the delegation's visit to the schools in Pakistan, Agastaya said she found uncanny similarities in attitudes and views while interacting with students.

"While visiting Islamabad I had an amazing conversation with a student, we shared the same interests, be it supporting a football club or judging all Bollywood movies... I felt this sense of serendipity, which I would love to have again."

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Sapna Ali Hassan, a 13-year-old student from Islamabad, was part of the delegation from Pakistan that got a tour through the cities of Delhi, Agra and Jaipur. She said the food she had in India couldn’t have been more similar.

“We had gol gappay, biryani, tikka, and it tasted similar to how it does in Pakistan.”

“I feared they might treat us differently because we were from the ‘rival’ nation or they might not like us, but that didn’t happen at all.”

Another 13-year-old from Lahore, Syeda Fatima Sikandar found the transport system to be better in the neighbouring state.

"The bus system in place was great, that's the one thing I found different."

Apart from a sightseeing tour that included Taj Mahal, Amer fort, temples and other monuments, the delegation also went to schools and interacted with students their age.

"Most schools in India, private or not, had a high education standard. Students there were involved in a lot of practical work and activities," said Fatima.

Mazhar Ali, 16, echoed her views.

"Theatre, drama and extracurricular were a norm in the schools there and it reflected in their confidence levels. I definitely got a boost just interacting with them."

As part of the same program, The Citizens Archive also reached out to schools in both India and Pakistan for an exchange of letters and postcards between students through which they shared stories about local festivals, natural heroes, culture and were also encouraged to ask questions about each other's country.

After 18 months of this exercise, some of the best letters were put on display in an exhibition at Frere Hall.

The initiative brought out feelings of homogeneity between children and dispelled negativity surrounding the two nations. Fatima from Lahore Grammar School summarised what she felt after her trip.

"I think whatever bitterness there may be, it's only on a political level. The way we see the world, the idea of entertainment, and wanting better relations, is mutual in both the countries."

From India to Pakistan: 'We're not so different' - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
 
really? tell me few things that makes us the same people and I will tell you many things that makes us different.
 
Most of the students could not find any cultural difference at all, with one student from New Delhi, Agastya Shetty saying, “Visiting the museums made me actually realise that our history is essentially the same.”
Their aspects [=perspectives?] on life, and of life, are different. It is quite clear that Hindus and Mussalmans derive their inspiration from different sources of history. They have different epics, their heroes are different, and different episodes
 
Their aspects [=perspectives?] on life, and of life, are different. It is quite clear that Hindus and Mussalmans derive their inspiration from different sources of history. They have different epics, their heroes are different, and different episodes

I thought
 
I agree with pakistani being polite than us, their language much less offensive. May be because its urdu or may be its how they are in general(punjabis are dehatis on both side :devil: )..
 
duplicate please merged this with other thread.. @waz

We are different ... there is nothing that we share with Pakistanis. I don't care for Pakistanis if they are dying or living.


Are you getting married to a Pakistani?
I was talking about their men... women are polite in public places even in India.. except some obnoxious aunties
 
I was talking about their men... women are polite in public places even in India.. except some obnoxious aunties
You fell for a Pakistani male? that's a shame bro ... I thought you could have done better. :tsk:
 
One thing Indians have is a strong transport industry which Pakistan does not have. The Indian consumer has much more choice over what car, bus or truck he chooses to buy. In Pakistan we have a very small number of choices when buying cars but the Indian consumer has lots.

Someone from Pakistan should visit any Indian governed region to notice this. They have clearly outdone us in the transport sector. I have also never seen the buses which give a fall to the person in Karachi, traveling with total disregard for the commuter. They are painted yes and that is the first thing a foreign visitor sees but they are traveling bombs. I fell off one of those buses once.
 
You don't care whether we live or die, yet you pollute our forum, a Pakistani forum with our vile and disgusting views. What a hypocrite. Now i'll give you two options, one you leave by your own will like a man,after all you said you don't care, or I ban you.

I sincerely hope you live up to your words and leave the forum.

@Oscar @Horus
Kya hogaya sirjee....itna ghussa aaj :o:
 
You don't care whether we live or die, yet you pollute our forum, a Pakistani forum with our vile and disgusting views. What a hypocrite. Now i'll give you two options, one you leave by your own will like a man,after all you said you don't care, or I ban you.
Apologies for the comment. But you have to understand the context. Indian girls here have been called Hindu whores and no action against those members have been taken. heck their comments haven't even been deleted.

I will leave if there was an option to delete my account permanently. I don't come here to tolerate such kind of abuse.
 
Apologies for the comment. But you have to understand the context. Indian girls here have been called Hindu whores and no action against those members have been taken. heck their comments haven't even been deleted.

I will leave if there was an option to delete my account permanently. I don't come here to tolerate such kind of abuse.

Please ask the Indian members about me. I would never tolerate anything said about women, the Hindu faith, anything derogatory for that matter. Just tag me in and I will see to any idiot who writes such things.

I'll take your apology, I can appreciate that. But please watch your posts. Thank you.
 
Please ask the Indian members about me. I would never tolerate anything said about women, the Hindu faith, anything derogatory for that matter. Just tag me in and I will see to any idiot who write such things.

I'll take your apology, I can appreciate that. But please watch your posts. Thank you.
I know about you hence the apology ... I am done with reporting Sir. sometimes the trolls does get better of our patience hence the cold outburst at times.
 

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