From India to Pakistan: 'We're not so different'

[doppelganger]

One thing Indians have is a strong transport industry which Pakistan does not have. The Indian consumer has much more choice over what car, bus or truck he chooses to buy. In Pakistan we have a very small number of choices when buying cars but the Indian consumer has lots.

Someone from Pakistan should visit any Indian governed region to notice this. They have clearly outdone us in the transport sector. I have also never seen the buses which give a fall to the person in Karachi, traveling with total disregard for the commuter. They are painted yes and that is the first thing a foreign visitor sees but they are traveling bombs. I fell off one of those buses once.

Have you seen our bikes versus yours?

Next time you in Lucknow will give you a ride on my KTM.

 

[waz]

I know about you hence the apology ... I am done with reporting Sir. sometimes the trolls does get better of our patience hence the cold outburst at times.

It's fine, and thank you for addressing me in a respectful manner. Keep reporting, you just have to remember the sheer number of posts we have posted every minute on here.

I deleted my previous post.

 

[jaatram]

It's fine, and thank you for addressing me in a respectful manner. Keep reporting, you just have to remember the sheer number of posts we have posted every minute on here.

I understand how hard it's for the mods to moderate this forum. And I appreciate the job you guys have to pull off considering every other post on this forum is about trolling the other person. It's just sometimes certain things get under the skin. And I thank you for indulging me in a conversation to calm things down. Anyway hows the baby girl doing and what name you guys settle down for. (btw don't consider it as kissing up )

 

[waz]

I understand how hard it's for the mods to moderate this forum. And I appreciate the job you guys have to pull off considering every other post on this forum is about trolling the other person. It's just sometimes certain things get under the skin. And I thank you for indulging me in a conversation to calm things down. Anyway hows the baby girl doing and what name you guys settle down for. (btw don't consider it as kissing up )

Thank you for your understanding, and as they old saying goes "please stay clam".
Thanks for asking about the baby, she is good my friend and very well behaved i.e. doesn't wake up at night, feeds well and so forth. I'm still in a dispute with my wife over a name lol. I'll post up the three choices on the same thread and see what everyone says.

 

[duhastmish]

Please ask the Indian members about me. I would never tolerate anything said about women, the Hindu faith, anything derogatory for that matter. Just tag me in and I will see to any idiot who writes such things.

I'll take your apology, I can appreciate that. But please watch your posts. Thank you.

Dear waz you are good man. I like you brother too good. I wish I knew you in real life and had a friend like you. But this option of knowing on Internet is second best.


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On topic

I doubt there are much similarity in Indian and Pakistan.
I found fellow Indian to be rude
I found them having strong inferiority complex. This I realised when I see them over seas.
Food religion and festivals are different
Pakistan are loyal to their country.
Indian have a moderate religious fundamentalism
Pakistani are easy to intimidate.
Pakistani love to go for war
Indian have a weaker fighting instinct.


I don't see much resemblance except for our ethics and family values.

 

[45'22']

Thank you for your understanding, and as they old saying goes "please stay clam".
Thanks for asking about the baby, she is good my friend and very well behaved i.e. doesn't wake up at night, feeds well and so forth. I'm still in a dispute with my wife over a name lol. I'll post up the three choices on the same thread and see what everyone says.

Congratulations
Didn't knew this

 

[duhastmish]

Thank you for your understanding, and as they old saying goes "please stay clam".
Thanks for asking about the baby, she is good my friend and very well behaved i.e. doesn't wake up at night, feeds well and so forth. I'm still in a dispute with my wife over a name lol. I'll post up the three choices on the same thread and see what everyone says.

They are your angel. Every time you see her at night sleeping you feel satisfied like you earned Jannat.
When sleeping she rub your face to see if it's dad. Because she know the texture of our shaved beard.
When she cry and cuddle to you. In a moment she forgets all her crying and pain.
I don't want them to grow up.

 

[waz]

Dear waz you are good man. I like you brother too good. I wish I knew you in real life and had a friend like you. But this option of knowing on Internet is second best.

Thank you very much brother, I'm touched by your words. You do know me, and I hope one day we can meet in real life and I can be a gracious host to you. The internet has given me the opportunity to meet great folks from all over, one of them being your good self.

Congratulations
Didn't knew this

Ha! Visit the thread my friend in the members section.

They are your angel. Every time you see her at night sleeping you feel satisfied like you earned Jannat.
When sleeping she rub your face to see if it's dad. Because she know the texture of our shaved beard.
When she cry and cuddle to you. In a moment she forgets all her crying and pain.
I don't want them to grow up.

Beautiful, are you a father yourself bro?

 

[duhastmish]

Thank you very much brother, I'm touched by your words. You do know me, and I hope one day we can meet in real life and I can be a gracious host to you. The internet has given me the opportunity to meet great folks from all over, one of them being your good self.



Ha! Visit the thread my friend in the members section.



Beautiful, are you a father yourself bro?

Yes I have a daughter she is 12 month. She learned to walk dance and say papa.
Ever since she is born my attitude towards life women and values changed. She loves to sleep eat and dance with me. Although her mum being a European wanted to make her sleep in that cot. But we are desi at heart. I keep going to check her if she's alright but in the end I take her.

First 6 month are most difficult specially winter. I know what you must be going through no sleep. But time fly I wish it can slow down and I enjoy her growing up.

 

[livingdead]

One thing Indians have is a strong transport industry which Pakistan does not have. The Indian consumer has much more choice over what car, bus or truck he chooses to buy. In Pakistan we have a very small number of choices when buying cars but the Indian consumer has lots.

Someone from Pakistan should visit any Indian governed region to notice this. They have clearly outdone us in the transport sector. I have also never seen the buses which give a fall to the person in Karachi, traveling with total disregard for the commuter. They are painted yes and that is the first thing a foreign visitor sees but they are traveling bombs. I fell off one of those buses once.

it all started after 90s... socialist economy ensured crappy roads and crappier transport, pakistan was much ahead of us in quality of roads.
Only transport I genuinely take pride is Indian railways... its the jewel of India.. even with filthy stations and 12 hour late trains and abysmal safety record...

 

[Thorough Pro]

don't know why these Indians keep claiming they are like us, NO you were never like us, are not like us, will never be like us. it takes much more than skin colour to be like someone, and even that is not the case.

“I found that the way Pakistanis hold conversation is very polite and there is a distinct sense of respect or tehzeeb in their conversation,” said Anupama Joshi, a teacher from Dehradun, India while describing her interaction with Pakistanis while visiting the country with a 29-member delegation in January.

“Contrary to the view that women are not seen in public places, I found the Pakistani women to be very liberated.”

The cultural trip was part of the ‘Exchange for Change’ program organised by The Citizens Archive of Pakistan and Routes2Roots. The program aimed at clearing misconceptions, giving youth from both countries a chance to experience life on the other side of the border (the group from Pakistan visited India in February).

The delegation from India was mainly students and teachers who visited Lahore, Islamabad and the archeologically-rich city Harappa and found the entire experience “exhilarating”.

“I think the food, language, the way we dress, especially the women, is fundamentally the same. I felt more at ease in terms of language and food in Lahore than I do at my in-laws place which is in south India and I come from northern India, which shares a lot of similarities with Lahore,” said Joshi.

Most of the students could not find any cultural difference at all, with one student from New Delhi, Agastya Shetty saying, “Visiting the museums made me actually realise that our history is essentially the same.”

Regarding the welcome extended by Pakistanis during the trip, Agastaya said she was pleasantly surprised.

“When the Pakistanis found out that we were from India, they went out of their way to see if we needed any assistance and would regularly check on us.”

During the delegation's visit to the schools in Pakistan, Agastaya said she found uncanny similarities in attitudes and views while interacting with students.

"While visiting Islamabad I had an amazing conversation with a student, we shared the same interests, be it supporting a football club or judging all Bollywood movies... I felt this sense of serendipity, which I would love to have again."

From Lahore to Delhi
Sapna Ali Hassan, a 13-year-old student from Islamabad, was part of the delegation from Pakistan that got a tour through the cities of Delhi, Agra and Jaipur. She said the food she had in India couldn’t have been more similar.

“We had gol gappay, biryani, tikka, and it tasted similar to how it does in Pakistan.”

“I feared they might treat us differently because we were from the ‘rival’ nation or they might not like us, but that didn’t happen at all.”

Another 13-year-old from Lahore, Syeda Fatima Sikandar found the transport system to be better in the neighbouring state.

"The bus system in place was great, that's the one thing I found different."

Apart from a sightseeing tour that included Taj Mahal, Amer fort, temples and other monuments, the delegation also went to schools and interacted with students their age.

"Most schools in India, private or not, had a high education standard. Students there were involved in a lot of practical work and activities," said Fatima.

Mazhar Ali, 16, echoed her views.

"Theatre, drama and extracurricular were a norm in the schools there and it reflected in their confidence levels. I definitely got a boost just interacting with them."

As part of the same program, The Citizens Archive also reached out to schools in both India and Pakistan for an exchange of letters and postcards between students through which they shared stories about local festivals, natural heroes, culture and were also encouraged to ask questions about each other's country.

After 18 months of this exercise, some of the best letters were put on display in an exhibition at Frere Hall.

The initiative brought out feelings of homogeneity between children and dispelled negativity surrounding the two nations. Fatima from Lahore Grammar School summarised what she felt after her trip.

"I think whatever bitterness there may be, it's only on a political level. The way we see the world, the idea of entertainment, and wanting better relations, is mutual in both the countries."

From India to Pakistan: 'We're not so different' - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

 

[haviZsultan]

it all started after 90s... socialist economy ensured crappy roads and crappier transport, pakistan was much ahead of us in quality of roads.
Only transport I genuinely take pride is Indian railways... its the jewel of India.. even with filthy stations and 12 hour late trains and abysmal safety record...

Bro you have never been to Pakistan to see what people actually call a car here. All we have is Suzuki Mehran. In india it is known as Tata. But that corollas, civics and cultus's are basically the only car choices we actually have. How boring and repetitious.

India has clearly outdone us. Even our FDI remains extremely low.

 

[browser]

don't know why these Indians keep claiming they are like us, NO you were never like us, are not like us, will never be like us. it takes much more than skin colour to be like someone, and even that is not the case.

This article and views of its author are an extreme minority and an exception.

Most Indians and Pakistanis care less about each other. So let's not get carried away.

Pakistanis are culturally more Arab than South Asian.

 

[livingdead]

Bro you have never been to Pakistan to see what people actually call a car here. All we have is Suzuki Mehran. In india it is known as Tata. But that corollas, civics and cultus's are basically the only car choices we actually have. How boring and repetitious.

India has clearly outdone us. Even our FDI remains extremely low.

india is a bigger market... more people .. nothing to do with govt effort.. just private money finding its way where the market is.. there was no coherent plan.. it just happened.

 

[SHAMK9]

I agree with pakistani being polite than us, their language much less offensive. May be because its urdu or may be its how they are in general(punjabis are dehatis on both side )..

My family friends from Delhi speak like they're yelling or swearing, it was hilarious when we first met them.