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I agree with what you say. Pakistan is far from failed country however that does not stop people calling it 'failed' as point of leverage in a discussion.

Thats just rhetoric, Reality is far from that

British India lasted nearly 200 years and as regards insurgencies what do you call Maoists?

Well the current Indian state is a kind of continuation of British India as far as it's territory is concerned,

What i meant was despite numerous insurgencies and separatists across India, Never have any one of those come close to toppling the establishment, Neither were there any realistic chance of coups (Except once during Indira Gandhi but was nipped in the bud so to say) Because the Indian institutions are strong and it's military well defined.. Cant say the same to many post colonial nations across the world.. Though the far right wing nationalist Indians (Unfortunately are flooded in this forum) will vehemently disagree but it was the British Raj that established such strong institutions in India through their stoic bureaucracy
 
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Yes we have to improve per-capita and aim is to become 3rd largest economy in nominal, though 3rd at present as per gdp ppp.

India is estimated to grow at six to eight percent per year compared to UK's growth of one to two percent until 2020, and likely beyond.

Read more: https://sputniknews.com/asia/201612201048796317-india-uk-economy/

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The growth is encouraging, but India has a long, long, loooong way to go before it can be considered developed. As does China.
 
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how may Indian's have stopped reading after the below line :lol::lol:

India’s Government Makes Banknotes Worthless by Decree Overnight

Let's recognize that both India and China are remarkable.

Chinese for having made more progress, climbed higher in less than two decades than any other people in history. There is no doubt about this. At the same time with this staggering record the Chinese display such a calm, humble outlook on their achievements. Instead of brag their is this this quite resolve to just get on with it.

On the other Indian's. Deception, conciet, brag, bluster to the point wher they believe thier own lies is the hallmark of Indian's. The amount of filth, bome poverty, open defecation and chaos is on epic scale yet I confess Indians have done spectacular job of hiding it.

Yes, Indian's abroad are impressive lot. They are the cream scooped from 1.3 billion ol of defecating, hungry, starved ugly chaotic mass.This impressive layer of cream has actually managed to make spray gold dust on filth and made it look attractive. Of course any visitors who go there and bother to travel beyond the tourist triangle which is crafted as much as possible to avoid the junglees are shocked to see this so called emerging superpower.

Because Indian's have advantage with English they have actually created a narrative of lies. Wiki articles are heavily distorted, even Western Think Tanks are now begining to get infilitated with the peddlers of deception. When all else fails India a country as large as China will retreat and use Pakistan as comparison certain that a country 7 times smaller is going to have figures smaller but that does not matter.

Here is a staggering truth. 21% of Indians live on less than $1.90. Think about that? That is nearly 260 million Indian's - which is more than the entire population of Pakistan are trapped on living with $1.90 a day. What does this mean? In real world it means more hunger, more starving, more homeless, more pullimng rickshaws, more slums than any other place on earth and these people will be seen shaking heads and using India and China in the same sentance. The reason China is often spoken in the same sentance is because it gives India a feeling of respectability. The truth is going by figures India, Ethiopia, Chad, Niger, Central African Republic should be spoken in the same sentance

India and China are not even on the same league other than bodycount yet in the media there is persistance to compare the two. When the real figure are produced you will get the common reply "India is a democracy" as it that is a curse? If 260 million are in trapped in poverty what good ids democracy? The other thing you hear often is India is developing as if most of the rest of the world is sleeping.

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Exactly dude Pakistan never had the problem of filth, poverty, open defecation and chaos on an epic scale yet I confess u Pakistanis have done a spectacular job of not able to hide it. I guess the reason u guys cant hide is bcoz sometime u guys pose as Indians hence whole world mistakes Pakistan for India else the whole world already recognize ur country as a land of honey with Filthy rich people , stable democracy,Equal rights for minorities and many more ...............such :enjoy::enjoy:

http://tribune.com.pk/story/11555/pakistanis-pose-as-indians-after-ny-bomb-scare/
 
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Think Niger. Think poverty. Think backwardness. Think filth. However like any other place Niger will have doctors, engineers, accountants, mathematicians, writers, dentists, chemical engineers, computer engineers. What if it just exported 10% of them to USA what would happen?

Every time you ran into somebody from Niger he or she would invariably be a professional. The stats for people from Niger in USA would be impressive. Back in Niger though rest of the majority would continue to live in filth. The sample from Niger would be so to say cherrypicked . However this small group from NIger would make no impact on USA because their relative numbers would be minuscule.

Now Niger has only population of 17 million., compared to India's nearly 1,300 million. What if you multiply Niger by 76 times. Now that tiny professional sample from Niger living in USA would grow by factor of 76 times and it would have enormous impact on USA.

But Niger would still be a swamp poor and filty country - only filth also would explode by factor of 76 times. You have your Shining India ladies and gents.

Just another oversized Niger.
Get your Facts Right:

Total numbers of Engineers & Doctors pass out Every year in India 3.26 Million for Engineering and 0.71 Million Doctors every year from India. And this figure is from 2012-13.

http://www.dreducation.com/2013/08/data-statistics-india-student-college.html

And how many working in USA? Nearly 1.00 Million.
http://www.thehindu.com/news/nation...-U.S.-nearing-one-million/article14000053.ece

So let us assume that in past 10 years total no of passouts 3.26+0.71=3.97Million x 10 years = 39.78 Million.

Total Number of professionals working in USA till date 1.00Million. Now let us assume that all 1.00Million professional migrated in last 10 years. So what is the % migrated to USA???

1.00/3.97x100=2.51%. (Migration Rate that is if we consider 10 year period).

BUT THE TRUTH IS THAT HIGHLY EDUCATED INDIANS ARE MIGRATING SINCE LAST 40 YEARS! and reached just 1.00Million. Means immigration rate is even billow 1%!

What should be the real strength of the Country to Export 1.00Million Doctors & Engineers to USA???? That is with much stricter regulations only clearing after TOEFL & GMAT.

Or shell we say to produce nearly 4.00Million Doctors and Engineers Per Year, what should be the strength of the country. By these standard we come to conclusion that India is definitely a "BANANA REPUBLIC".

Now lets us consider that India and Niger is at same level of development i.e "Banana Republic". So how many Engineers and Doctors of Niger Origin in USA. Heck no record available for Niger despite total population of 20.00Million.

Now let us consider what is the situation of PAKISTAN WHICH IS "NOT A BANANA REPUBLIC".

TOTAL REGISTERED ENGINEERS IN PAKISTAN ARE 170,992 (PEC Registered, June 2014).
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/number-engineers-pakistan-rashid-ali-me-six-sigma-black-belt

That is with Population of 200.00 Million "Pakistan which is not a Banana Republic" have 170,992 engineers.

So let India be "Banana Republic" we are Happy with it.

Let Pakistan alone progress.
 
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Do you know NO GOVERNMENT OF ANY SORT EXISTS IN "RED" AREA.

But HECK MODI SO CRUEL FOR NAXALITES by his Demonetization Drive

Following the demonetization of large currency notes, 546 Maoists and their sympathisers have surrendered over the past 28 days.

http://newsable.asianetnews.tv/india/demonetization-pushes-hundreds-of-terrorists-to-surrender

WE INDIANS ARE AFRAID TO ENTER THE "RED PORTION MENTIONED HERE IN THE MAP"


HECK NAXALE EFFECTED "CHHATTISGARH PRODUCES 16000MW OF ELECTRICITY MORE THEN TOTAL ELECTRICITY PRODUCED IN PAKISTAN"
http://articles.economictimes.india...generation-capacity-electricity-generation-mw
 
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Think Niger. Think poverty. Think backwardness. Think filth. However like any other place Niger will have doctors, engineers, accountants, mathematicians, writers, dentists, chemical engineers, computer engineers. What if it just exported 10% of them to USA what would happen?

Every time you ran into somebody from Niger he or she would invariably be a professional. The stats for people from Niger in USA would be impressive. Back in Niger though rest of the majority would continue to live in filth. The sample from Niger would be so to say cherrypicked . However this small group from NIger would make no impact on USA because their relative numbers would be minuscule.

Now Niger has only population of 17 million., compared to India's nearly 1,300 million. What if you multiply Niger by 76 times. Now that tiny professional sample from Niger living in USA would grow by factor of 76 times and it would have enormous impact on USA.

But Niger would still be a swamp poor and filty country - only filth also would explode by factor of 76 times. You have your Shining India ladies and gents.

Just another oversized Niger.
Has your account been hacked or something? You are generally very rational and calm person.
 
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China and india can never be equal. India has lost too much.
Indian like heros and follow them like slave its hundreds of years of slavery its not wasy to get rid of it.

Rulers change slave remain the same.
 
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Difference between India and pakistan


India, along with Bangladesh and Iran, has pulled out of a key regional conference on sustainable development which is being held in Pakistan

According to sources, all of the 14 member countries of APCTT were invited, but India, Bangladesh and Iran decided not to attend the meeting

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...cotts-pakistan-again/articleshow/56095694.cms

Conclusion:- India is not a banana republic and can influence others for their decision
 
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You know, India and its people and culture can be so easy for people sitting in the Europe or America to assume and draw. Especially, with a biased religious and racist views covering up the brain. The Namoone we find in this forum is truly disgusting. The experts who knows all of India from meeting some NRI's. The ones who believes Cranial capacity of brown races are less and are destined to be doomed. Yes, can smell this creepy fellows from a mile.
 
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The Myth of India as an Upcoming Asian Economic Powerhouse. Rising Poverty and Social Inequality

A common myth around the world is that, India is developing country at a very rapid pace and going to be a powerhouse in Asia soon. Some even argue we should learn from them and some argue independence should have never happened and we would have been a better off with India rather than independent. And even some pessimist especially Pakistani and Bangladeshi people regret the independence in 1947 and common chorus can be heard “look where India has reached today and where we are”.

Regret or not, but it is important to see where India stands today, the idea to write regarding this is to differentiate the illusion from fact and give reason so the sane understanding follows. A nation is called developing not because of its population, or defense budget, but how good the people fare in that country; it is about the human development and economic growth which include improving education and health by having less people as possible under the poverty line and high incomes per capita of citizen in the country, this will come when the state will have a sound economic system.

India is no doubt one of the biggest democracy in the world; because it has the highest population, Simple! (China highly populist, and officially “communist”). India is the second biggest nation in the world in terms of population and seventh largest in terms of area. According to the IMF as of 2015, the Indian economically nominally worth US$ 2.182 trillion, it, it’s the eleventh largest economy in terms of market exchange rates at US$ 8.027 trillion, third largest by PPP, with an annual GDP growth of last decade’s 5.8%.[1]

These numbers in retrospect are nonsense which feed the illusion to the general public so they can keep on living like they are in a hope that their life will get better.

These numbers do not represent the true picture of the country, not only India`s but any country. Like GDP can be a good indicator, but the real measure is GDP per capita. Which measures how a single person achieves the share of income among its citizens. When it comes to India the GDP is $2.182 trillion, but per capita income is only $1581 which is not much higher than Bangladesh`s $1086 and Pakistan’s $1316 per capita, but less among many African countries, like Nigeria $3203, South Africa $6,482, Zambia $1721, Sudan $1875, Namibia $5408, Ghana $1441, Djibouti $1813, Botswana $7123 and many more to mention here.[2] In fact, India is like “ticking time bomb” by 2026 the world population will be 1.5 billion largest in the world and the economy is not growing enough to meet the demands to create 20 million jobs per year.[3]

Yes, I know India is part of BRICS and they have announced in creating their own kind of bank but then what? India still owes money to the IMF; their public debt to GDP is nearly 70%,[4] Likewise, India is worst in terms of BRIC countries when it comes to GDP per capita, human development, education, poverty and so forth. India is lagging behind in BRIC countries. And Yes, then there is IT, the huge investments in India by the foreign companies just because those corporation can have cheap labor rather than paying their people in home countries with high wages. The beauty of globalization which no body mentions and no one talks all they care to show people the random numbers and apathy of people to consent without barely eliciting a yawn.

One of the main hurdles in the progress of India is poverty, poverty which should have been brought under control, but in India it is more or less same ratios of poverty post-independence.


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The figure shows the total population every decade with poverty in percentage and how much the poverty has declined in India, the percentage may have decreased, but the total number of people living under the poverty line has been more or less same.

To combat poverty the country introduced anti-poverty policies, to help people living under the poverty line but according to World Bank report in some states more than 50% were misclassified as poor in other words they were not poor but reaped full benefits from these polices, but still by no means can these policies achieve their true objective, even without corruption free. How anti-poverty policy can and will work which make the poor`s dependents on government`s mercy rather than concentrating on human development by educating poor people, training and developing them so they can take care of themselves, the government chose spoon feeding. Human development is not alien Jerry Sternin owner of an NGO based in the United States helped Vietnam reduce malnourishment in 1990s without bringing a single dollar in the country, his work was finished in 6 months or so. Seeing good things in anti-poverty policy is like a finding a needle in a needle box with a needle.



The figure shows two very important things how India fare among BRIC countries and Second the working poor in India out of Total Employed working in India. Many poor people are not those who don’t have job, in fact some poor are with jobs but their wages are low compared to International standards and it becomes difficult for them to increase their living standards.

The mistake which people generally make is when they start comparing India with Pakistan or Bangladesh, this is incorrect for many reasons, India is an enormous big country, its market share, volume is big, its population is big it should be compared more with China. China went in more difficult level in combating poverty than India, but being a communist, it has reduced poverty effectively. It’s also true that in China the gap between Rich and Poor is widening but better to have that gap rather than letting your people live in poverty.



Since 1980 China has significantly brought people out of poverty where India has failed to achieve substantial reduction

In retrospect, not in even the next two decades, India can reduce poverty, for many reasons; first, the policies they have introduced which I have discussed earlier are still in practice. Second, the focus of these policies as I have mentioned earlier is not sincere and not focused on human development; the nuisance still and will continue. Third, even they all of a sudden change the policy, let’s say tomorrow and bring fair policy with no corruption; even then it will take decades to achieve and reduce levels of impoverishment. This melancholy reality gives the notion of hubris and musing thinking that prevails in the country which is heedless in their direction unfortunately.

Further Reading

Nelson, D. (2013, April 18). India has one third of world’s poorest, says World Bank. The Telegraph

World Bank report (2011). Social protection for changing India vol 1

Statistics of GDP on different countries by World Bank (2015) retrieved from:

http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.CD

World Economic Outlook Database, October 2015 – Report for selected counties and subjects. International Monetary Fund (IMF).Retrieved from:

http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft...1&c=534&s=NGDPD,NGDPDPC,PPPGDP,PPPPC&grp=0&a=

Report for Selected Countries and Subjects: Afghanistan, Bangladesh, India, Indonesia, Malaysia, Nepal, Pakistan, Philippines, Sri Lanka, Thailand, International Monetary Fund, April 2011. Retrieve from:

http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft...64,566,524,534,578,536,548&s=NGDPDPC&grp=0&a=

United Nations (2014, 2015) Human Development Report.

Statistics on India (2016) India Government debt to GDP, trending economics retrieved from:

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/india/government-debt-to-gdp

Notes

[1] World Economic Outlook Database, October 2015 – Report for selected counties and subjects. International Monetary Fund (IMF).

[2] Statistics of GDP on different countries by World Bank (2015)

[3] Nelson, D. (2013, April 18). India has one third of world’s poorest, says World Bank. The Telegraphhttp://www.globalresearch.ca/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Figure-1.jpg

[4] Statistics on India (2016) India Government debt to GDP, trending economics.

[5] Source: UN Department of Economic and Social affair’s 2012, Poverty MGNREGA Statistics, (2012)

Juan Ghoto is a recent graduate in public administration. writing on comparative development and human rights issues.
 
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However this is a cultural thing than a sign of welath

Yes i agree, but people also have the capacity to the buy the gold....

By the way gold also considered a sign of wealth, especially marriage function...
 
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