First lady of Pakistan

[padamchen]

And if one goes even back there is the existence of the Aryan Invention theory.

Long back? It was a dharmic populace with Zoroastrian fringes to the west barely a thousand years ago.

Cheers, Doc

 

[jamahir]

Ironic isnt it

How so??

Long back? It was a dharmic populace with Zoroastrian fringes to the west barely a thousand years ago.

Cheers, Doc

Well, I was talking more about 3000 to 3200 to 3500 years ago.

 

[El Sidd]

How so??

because others define these terms for you

 

[padamchen]

Well, I was talking more about 3000 to 3200 to 3500 years ago.

It was Aryan. Flowing in from Asia Minor.

The parent theology of the populace is essentially Iranic or Indic. Essentially two sides of the same coin (pre Puranic Vedism). Mingled with native (moolnivasi) animism.

It is hardwired to their DNA.

It is definitely not Semitic. No matter how long back you stretch it out.

Cheers, Doc

 

[Numerous]

Yes, Turkey, before Erdogan, went to an extreme: Banning even head scarf in public offices was too much. The reaction of Turkish liberal elites to Erdogan's wife was not fair. Her head scarf is not so extreme. But Imran Khan's wife is surely not representative of even the average of Pakistan's society. Look at the swearing in ceremony of Imran Khan and look at the women there: How many are covered like the new first lady? This FIRST LADY of Pakistan, if she indeed goes to foreign tours, will ONLY take away from Imran's visits. She's too extreme in her dress code, even by the conservative Pakistani dress code.

As to your calling others as 'desi libturds'.. that's low. Build tolerance and build bridges. Above all BE MODERATE! Pakistan is a moderate country and should not swing to either extremes. The dress code of Saudi Arabia and Pakistan's FATA (and of Afghanistan) is NOT the dress code of most Pakistani women. As for your assertion that women used to wear 'jubbas and burkas' before late 80's--yes, they did to an extrent, thanks to Zia. But for the most of Pakistan's history they didn't: Most of Pakistani women put on 'dopatta' (a light shawl-like fabric/costume) to mostly cover their bosoms throughout Pakistan's history. I should know: I have seen Pakistan from the early 1970s onward. That was the dress code of the women in my household and that has still remained so.

It's not extreme, having a face covering is part of Islam. You need to stop using the western definition for extremism. I suggest you take care with the words you chose because you're calling Islam extreme in your post. Do you know better than Allah? You don't, so don't call parts of His religion extreme.

Who cares of she goes abroad on tours in a niqab? Be proud of your religion and be proud of those who follow it. It doesn't matter if the non-Muslims complain, they will never love Islam and they won't love you until you give it up, our aim isn't to please them, our aim should only be to please Allah.

Your personal choice is not modest what ALLAH and his RASOOL SAW have told is modest

Yep ^

 

[jamahir]

because others define these terms for you

I think you are making this more complicated than it is. I only said that I believe in humanity without national borders, which is what the goal of Communism is - "When governments have fallen, militaries disbanded, and people rule themselves".

It was Aryan. Flowing in from Asia Minor.

The parent theology of the populace is essentially Iranic or Indic. Essentially two sides of the same coin (pre Puranic Vedism). Mingled with native (moolnivasi) animism.

It is hardwired to their DNA.

It is definitely not Semitic. No matter how long back you stretch it out.

Cheers, Doc

The culture of sites like Indus Valley is not known, how much ever some of the Pakistani members on this forum talk absolutely about.

There has been a suggestion that IV was populated by Kurds.

Once upon a time I had good interest in older history, but now I find it pointless because it promotes regionalism, tribalism and ultra-nationalism.

 

[RoadRunner401]

Three Islamic scholars were talking;

One said,

sir its an islamic dress and i think we should promote it.

2nd one replied;

you are no one to tell her what to wear and what to not mind your own business

the third one replied;

Well, its her choice for what to wear. You can't dictate someone just because you don't like it.

Arab women too wear such dresses, would you like to call them Afghan Taliban too?

No sir, we wouldn't dare question Arabs, If Arabs are doing it, its 100% kosher and Islamic. you are so rite jf17 and others that question Arabs should be hanged

Conclusion;

Bhai kapron k kb se religions honay lag gaye?

 

[Numerous]

Try not to spout insults. Discuss with logic.

I will copy-paste my post from another thread, which by the way was about Asma al-Assad, the first lady of Syria and she doesn't wear that ugly tent called burqa :

> Asks people to not use insults
> Goes on to insult veil wearing Muslim women

The dress of those who follow Islam (whether is it burqa, niqab, hijab, jilbab etc...) is not ugly. Islam is not ugly. The only thing which is ugly is your mind.

 

[padamchen]

I think you are making this more complicated than it is. I only said that I believe in humanity without national borders, which is what the goal of Communism is - "When governments have fallen, militaries disbanded, and people rule themselves".



The culture of sites like Indus Valley is not known, how much ever some of the Pakistani members on this forum talk absolutely about.

There has been a suggestion that IV was populated by Kurds.

Once upon a time I had good interest in older history, but now I find it pointless because it promotes regionalism, tribalism and ultra-nationalism.

What were the Kurds?

Which faith are they actively reverting to today in the tens and hundreds of thousands?

What do you think the fight in the ME is all about? Oil? Naaah ...

Personally I have always believed that Megrah and IVC were both Iranic.

@Joe Shearer believes that there was intermingling (not necessarily genetic, but cohabitational for sure) of Indic plainsmen with Iranic mountain herdsmen for sure.

Cheers, Doc

 

[jamahir]

> Asks people to not use insults
> Goes on to insult veil wearing Muslim women

The dress of those who follow Islam (whether is it burqa, niqab, hijab, jilbab etc...) is not ugly. Islam is not ugly. The only thing which is ugly is your mind.

Where did I say that Islam is ugly??

It is you who is confusing Islam with things like the burqa, niqab etc.

Also, you have not replied to me on the research of the Egyptian member of parliament about the niqab.

What were the Kurds?

In all honesty, I don't know.

Which faith are they actively reverting to today in the tens and hundreds of thousands?

In all honesty, I don't know.

What do you think the fight in the ME is all about? Oil? Naaah ...

I agree, the fight is not about oil. It is more about the modern version of the Crusades, with NATO leading the charge.

Personally I have always believed that Megrah and IVC were both Iranic.

@Joe Shearer believes that there was intermingling (not necessarily genetic, but cohabitational for sure) of Indic plainsmen with Iranic mountain herdsmen for sure.

Cheers, Doc

I see.

 

[El Sidd]

I think you are making this more complicated than it is. I only said that I believe in humanity without national borders, which is what the goal of Communism is - "When governments have fallen, militaries disbanded, and people rule themselves".

You have your rhines crossed.

 

[jamahir]

You have your rhines crossed.

??

Lines or Rhines??

 

[El Sidd]

??

Lines or Rhines??

The Rhines that flow in your head have crossed.

 

[Numerous]

Where did I say that Islam is ugly??

It is you who is confusing Islam with things like the burqa, niqab etc.

Also, you have not replied to me on the research of the Egyptian member of parliament about the niqab.

Most of the Muslim world aren't confused communists like you. Don't expect us to share your hatred of Islamic dress.

Quite frankly it did not deserve a reply.

 

[jamahir]

The Rhines that flow in your head have crossed.

Yet you are the one who trolls at every given opportunity.

Most of the Muslim world aren't confused communists like you. Don't expect us to share your hatred of Islamic dress.

Quite frankly it did not deserve a reply.

From this I know your position on leaders like Nasser and Gaddafi.