Finland set to join NATO

[Battlion25]

You don’t just scrap together an army, unless you want those forces bulldozed.

Russia has little ability at this point to conduct an offensive against Finland.

I wouldn't put it past the Russians to actully mount second invasion while the first one is ongoing

 

[F-22Raptor]

I wouldn't put it past the Russians to actully mount second invasion while the first one is ongoing

75% of Russias BTGs were deployed in Ukraine. What they could muster beyond their BTGs are mostly untrained conscripts.

 

[ZeEa5KPul]

To keep Russia weak.

This is war, not a boxing match, but we can use the boxing analogy. I do not care if I outweigh you by 10-1. If I can make it 11-1 or 12-1 or even 100-1, I will do so, because a war is about existence, not about winning a trophy. Right now, every European country is reassessing its relationship with Russia no matter how geographically remote they are from Russia. So as far as arguing whether NATO should continue to exist or not, that debate is done. NATO will continue to exist and will grow. Thanks to Poutine.

Cute. Too bad one of that works when you get your bluff called and Russia attacks one of your pets with nuclear weapons. You willing to die for Finland?

 

[gambit]

Cute. Too bad one of that works when you get your bluff called and Russia attacks one of your pets with nuclear weapons. You willing to die for Finland?

If Russia attack any country with nuclear weapons, no country including your China will be safe, so in that sense, plenty of people would be willing to risk their lives to stop Russia wherever that maybe.

 

[ZeEa5KPul]

If Russia attack any country with nuclear weapons, no country including your China will be safe, so in that sense, plenty of people would be willing to risk their lives to stop Russia wherever that maybe.

Nah, China's sitting on what's very soon to be a vast arsenal of nuclear weapons. It's going to be just fine. So is America, actually, because at the end of the day you care about breathing more than your Murica #1 antics.

The correct answer to the question of what America would do if Russia struck a NATO country with nuclear weapons is absolutely nothing.

 

[Wood]

Lol so putin winning!

Soon sweden will join. And nato will increase its foot print in asia pacific.

I doubt if the Swedes will join NATO. They have no need to with Finland in between Sweden and Russia

 

[mmr]

I doubt if the Swedes will join NATO. They have no need to with Finland in between Sweden and Russia

If there population want it...politicians will react. And public opinion is changing very fast in Sweden.

 

[dBSPL]

Turkey MUST use veto right.

With their current foreign policies, Sweden and Finland cannot be included in a military alliance that Turkey is member.

Finland and Sweden cannot become NATO members unless they abandon their active support for the PKK and therefore their unfriendly policies towards Turkey and give assurances on these issues. It's that simple.

The US foreign affairs clearly foresees this, and because of that it keeps Turkey's demand for F-16 purchases on hold, in other words, it wants to use it as a trump card. Also some reliable sources saying that the EU will also open a new chapter in the membership negotiations(just an another carrot). Turkey should respond to this blackmail of the USA by starting negotiations with China to purchase alternate aircraft.

 

[Wood]

If there population want it...politicians will react. And public opinion is changing very fast in Sweden.

Sure, but population do not want it so much. About 51% have shown consent and that is only a bare majority. I suppose the longer this war lasts, the more it is likely for Swedes to choose NATO.

 

[mmr]

Sure, but population do not want it so much. About 51% have shown consent and that is only a bare majority. I suppose the longer this war lasts, the more it is likely for Swedes to choose NATO.

Yes. And chances of this war will drag on for months is real possibility.

 

[gambit]

The correct answer to the question of what America would do if Russia struck a NATO country with nuclear weapons is absolutely nothing.

You sure your China is willing to be the first to test that hypothesis? Try it on Taiwan and see.

 

[KAL-EL]

If it should come to pass, then it is entirely within their right to do so.

If not, they should still arm themselves to the teeth

 

[mmr]

You sure your China is willing to be the first to test that hypothesis? Try it on Taiwan and see.

Pdf is full of video game players on mom's basement. They love to see use of nuclear weapons on daily basis.

 

[gambit]

Pdf is full of video game players on mom's basement. They love to see use of nuclear weapons on daily basis.

The problem is MAD, Mutually Assured Destruction. All nuclear weapons states subscribed to MAD in that each believe that once any country of any alliance or none is attacked with nuclear weapons, the attacker has committed to MAD to the end. The attacker has nothing to lose. There is no certainty as to the stopping point. If one city is attacked, why not the next? So MAD will be activated on the first nuclear attack.

These Chinese 'sofa soldiers' are careless because they have an easy life. The most blood they ever shed are paper cuts. Hardship is slow internet speed. Am not here to change their feeble minds but to present alternate viewpoints to the silent readers out there who are more serious minded.

 

[ZeEa5KPul]

You sure your China is willing to be the first to test that hypothesis? Try it on Taiwan and see.

Why would China strike its own property with nuclear weapons?