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Mullah Omar is over all talaban cammander fighting against US occupation , BM was not following his instructions ,its mean he was getting aid and instruction from enemies of Pakistan , that is reason he was called bad talaban.

US already offered 6 provinces to MO .its mean sooner or later their will be peace agreement between MO and US .BM group already lost ground and support is now history could never get power again in Waziristan.

Is this Mullah Omar the same person who was the leader of the Taliban govt in Afganistan before America striked??The same person who sheltered Osama bin Laden?? And now the Americans r trying to broker a deal with the very same person??Man....these Americans never fail to surprise me!!!:blink::blink:

Btw,how do the 'Americans' offer 'Afgan soil' to anybody???Isnt it the discretion of the government of Afganistan???The Americans may have a strong presence there as a security assistance force,but does that give them the right to decide whom to give the land of somebody else and whom not??

Btw,if this Mullah Omar is the very person whom i think him to be,then i cannot really say that he is pro-American.But Pakistan is pro-American on so far as US poilicy of War on terror is concerned.America even uses Pakistani bases to launch attack against the taliban sometimes inside pakistan sometimes in Afganistan,where Mullah Omar operates.
So what we r looking at is Pakistan is Pro-American while Mullah Omar is anti-American on the same issue.Thats a direct conflict of interests.
So in the end im more confused than ever."Who is really on whose side????:blink::blink::what::what::hitwall: :hitwall: "
 
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So a connection exists because some Muslims are dissatisfied with the situation in the Middle East so they then attack Pakistan, and Pakistani Muslims respond both by attacking those "evil and worthy of hellfire" at home while seeking to appease them elsewhere?

Solomon2,
I think you have ample mental prowess to do better than this...this is your conclusion from such a lengthy post i pasted?
I think you are deliberately trying to look the other way.
 
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No. I really don't get what you're trying to say. From your post I read that Muslims have been taught to be angry about Israel but reading your post I don't see the connection to attacks in Pakistan, save the implication that these Muslims may be frustrated they cannot strike the Jews so they strike the nearest suitable Pakistani they find instead.
 
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Mullah Omar is over all talaban cammander fighting against US occupation , BM was not following his instructions ,its mean he was getting aid and instruction from enemies of Pakistan , that is reason he was called bad talaban.

US already offered 6 provinces to MO .its mean sooner or later their will be peace agreement between MO and US .BM group already lost ground and support is now history could never get power again in Waziristan.


You are clearly supporting terrorism in my country in your posts, and if i do the same thing about pakistan by supporting TTP, i will probably get banned by the moderators. so if you dont want your house to burn, dont try to burn other poor people's house.

You should also know that the afghans might not love the americans, but voting the Taliban in will be the last thing they would do, because they are the stooges and puppets of Pakistan.
 
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No. I really don't get what you're trying to say. From your post I read that Muslims have been taught to be angry about Israel but reading your post I don't see the connection to attacks in Pakistan, save the implication that these Muslims may be frustrated they cannot strike the Jews so they strike the nearest suitable Pakistani they find instead.

It has come to a point that many decades have passed and the conflict is not resolved, rather day by day Israel (not Jews, note that i always segregate the two) is strangling what life is left for the Palestinians...they are practically under siege and at the mercy of Israel which can bring their life to a grinding halt on the smallest pretext and has assurance that U.N. cannot even pass a resolution to check Israel or restrain it....this is where USA comes in...the warranty card for Israel...

Since most of the Muslim countries have good ties with USA it becomes all of their collective responsibility to pressurize USA but sadly due to poor leadership and unprecedented disparity between USA and rest of the world...it has not worked so far since USA has really made it its mission to protect Israel as its own...this is evident from countless US aid to boost the military and economy of Israel and also the US role in making sure that the world does not interfere in what Israel calls its internal matters which however nearly all of the world sees as a conflict between two peoples and not just an internal matter.

Time has eroded the patience of many in the world who think that Israel will not stop until it is made to pay a price for its highhandedness...this hopelessness coupled with already prevalent Arab-Israel mutual hatred since the wars led to a state where many militant organizations sprouted in the Arab world...their aim was to win back the rights of the Palestinians and reclaim their identity...
with passage of time these militants were used in Afghan Jihad where fighters from all over the world had gathered to fight the commies...this interaction ensured that the views carried by the Arabs spread into other countries...
Already most in the Muslim world are sympathetic to Palestinians in different ways...however for the warriors the mathematics was very simple...they hurt you, you hurt them back...however due to extreme disparity this was bound to result in more hurt for Palestinians than Israel...hence more extremist to the point that in response to Israeli atrocities even terrorism was now easily perpetrated and seeped into many organizations as a weapon....

The hatred/dislike of Israel has grown with each passing day and a time has come that the Palestinian leaders who were engaged in peace dialogue are no more popular because they had little to show to their people except more humiliation...this strong sentiment is now being used by the Arab origin movements to gain support all over the world by using massive propaganda against Muslim governments which they perceive as supporting USA in following its global agenda...this is the link which was forged in Afghanistan and gains more and more strength as Israel dominates the Palestinians and USA supports it wholeheartedly and at the same time has entered into Iraq and Afghanistan earning the strong dislike of even neutral people who see this as only fueling the fires of war and causing more death and destruction in the Muslim world chasing terrorists who became anti US for only one reason...the unrelenting support of Israel...there was no other reason for Al Qaeda...at least no other strong reason which they could have used to recruit knowing or unknowing fighters to face USA...now due to US presence in Afghanistan and Iraq the recruitment pool has only increased and that is where the problem is...in the war on terror there is no real effort to address the problem which is why many people have become so consumed by hatred...i am not talking about the masterminds but rather the young people who can be talked into killing innocents because they themselves have seen innocents being killed by the direct or indirect actions of the countries they are chosen to target...

Al Qaeda has used all of this to its advantage in becoming a global entity and is no friend of the Muslim world...still one has to study in detail why they succeeded, to attribute this terrorism as the work of the devil maybe morally right but then the same goes for state level brutality of Israel as well... in practical terms it is prudent to study the root cause and that is why i say that the terms should not be to throw Israelis off the holy land but to have an arrangement where both Israelis and Palestinians have their rights to share the holy land and there is no forced eviction from their homes...at least some semblance of normalcy has to be attained to give voice to those who want to pursue the road to peace but have nothing to show for their efforts...

If USA even becomes neutral...there will be a lot less problems, however i do not see that happen anytime soon and things are getting worse not better...
 
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Excellent summary of the situation All-Green. I wish that Israelis and Jewish Americans who support Israel, right or wrong, could internalize what you have said above. As far as the USA goes, it will require either the Jewish Americans to see the truth of what you have said OR the Palestinians to do an order of magnitude better job of explaining the rightness of their cause. Until either of these things happen, or some combination thereof, the world is stuck with this terrible festering sore.
 
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