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Fazlu Rehman doing what he does best: Will not back constitutional amendment in current form

i agree. although, i don't think that he would have to be persuaded, but instead the bill will have to be changed. his constituency and the demography he represents is unarguably the most significant when it comes to war on terror.

The bill can be passed regardless of his stance though.

The issue today was short attendance.
 
but instead the bill will have to be changed. his constituency and the demography he represents is unarguably the most significant when it comes to war on terror.
Why should the bill be changed??
His constituency is also the one forming the backbone of the Taliban movement.
The only way forward if we are serious about dealing with the situation is to curtail the significance of people like him
 
Civil society? Does it exist anymore to be effective against this tide of religiosity in Pakistan?

it goes a little deeper than just civil society. a recent poll conducted last year in pakistan before its general elections shows that 84% of pakistanis want shariah law to be implemented in their country.

as of now stopping religiosity in pakistan is impossible. the need of the moment is the stop armed resistance. that is the first step. once you stop people from doing jihad against the state of pakistan, the war on terror has been won. the change in the mindset of the people of pakistan to want a secular state with no religious affiliation will take centuries. it is a very slow evolving process.
 
The bill can be passed regardless of his stance though.

The issue today was short attendance.

the bill can be passed but the need for all parties conference was to show unanimity, especially on this issue. the enemy we are fighting is a "very" small minority in pakistan, but the one that is not afraid the kill a 100 children and then blow itself. we have to stop that ideology from spreading and religious scholars hold the most sway. that is their constituency and you can not afford to lose them in this fight. marginalizing that community will be a blunder.

Why should the bill be changed??
His constituency is also the one forming the backbone of the Taliban movement.
The only way forward if we are serious about dealing with the situation is to curtail the significance of people like him

his constituency is fighting the taliban in reality. there have been numerous attempts on his life by the taliban. he represents a class that agrees with the taliban's notion of wanting pakistan run by shariah law, but disagrees with the taliban's stance of armed resistance and jihad against pakistan army and its institutions.

maulana wants to stay within the system. he accepts democracy, the constitution, and the supremacy of armed forces of Pakistan. he is a an extremely important individual.

he is defeating the narrative of armed resistance, which is what you want. now if you want him to stop wanting shariah law, that is impossible. the country we are talking about is the "Islamic republic of pakistan." 84% of the population want shariah law.
 
Maulana is taking the safe bet I.e. The middle way. Lets not forget that he has contacts on both sides I.e Taliban and the political plus military leadership. So he is doing kind of "I am not with u but I am not against you".
 
So after , absorbing the Peshawar terror shock P market of Pakistani politicians is ready for the bussines as usual.
& that means mutual sabotage of the efforts to save Pakistanis against mutually financed ,backed & supported terorism by democrats.
 
it goes a little deeper than just civil society. a recent poll conducted last year in pakistan before its general elections shows that 84% of pakistanis want shariah law to be implemented in their country.

as of now stopping religiosity in pakistan is impossible. the need of the moment is the stop armed resistance. that is the first step. once you stop people from doing jihad against the state of pakistan, the war on terror has been won. the change in the mindset of the people of pakistan to want a secular state with no religious affiliation will take centuries. it is a very slow evolving process.
Pakistanis need justice and that is it. The fact is, the state has completely failed to provide its citizens with justice. From filing a FIR to getting the dispute resolved takes generation and not to mention the huge sums of money that will be wasted in the process. In such situation it is very easy to sell shariah laws for people think these laws will enable them to live a normal life in Pakistan. It is perception, and it is working so well because of the absolute failure of our justice system.
 
Cant they pass the amendment without his consent..? He has any veto Power..?
they just need PPP. Bcoz PPP still have majority eats in senate
 
His vote bank is on the decline....As long as 2/3 sign it, we are good.
 
Pakistanis need justice and that is it. The fact is, the state has completely failed to provide its citizens with justice. From filing a FIR to getting the dispute resolved takes generation and not to mention the huge sums of money that will be wasted in the process. In such situation it is very easy to sell shariah laws for people think these laws will enable them to live a normal life in Pakistan. It is perception, and it is working so well because of the absolute failure of our justice system.

you are pettifogging the issue. the justice system is poor in pakistan and so is in almost every developing country. even in developed countries you see a dissatisfaction with the justice system with the recent riots in US. now the united kingdom's justice system works exceptionally well relative to the rest of the world. ICM opinion poll conducted by the guardian reveals that 40% of british muslims want shariah law in the united kingdom.
 

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