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F-22s escort Jordanian F-16s during air strikes against ISIS

the cold war ended...priorities changed. it just an unneeded expensive jet, but now with the rise of China and Russia it might just prove it's worth in the next decade.


FB-22 could of be interesting and would of seen a lot of action.

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Wiki says it got cancelled, so i don't know if we'll ever see a bomber version in action. Still, you're right, it would be extremely potent as a bomber, though just developing a dedicated bomber would probably be better for the long term.
 
Wiki says it got cancelled, so i don't know if we'll ever see a bomber version in action. Still, you're right, it would be extremely potent as a bomber, though just developing a dedicated bomber would probably be better for the long term.

true a dedicated bomber would in the long term is a must., but to be able to carry 30 SDB that would of been a lot of firepower. beats firing one Tomahawk that can only hit one target.

I just don't think the U.S needs a big ole B-2 style bomber. especially if the target are small nations or terrorists.
 
Deploying the F-22 to an area/adversary with little to no radar coverage.. So brave.. :lol:
The threat of AAA and SAMs does exist in IS controlled area and that is how the Jordanian F-16 was hit. So the threat is there.
 
It sends a message when America sends its premier fighter that they stand alongside the Jordanian forces.
In that part of the world, I don't know if that's such a good thing. Many entities out there believe that if America is fighting XYZ, then by default XYZ are the good guys.
 
In that part of the world, I don't know if that's such a good thing. Many entities out there believe that if America is fighting XYZ, then by default XYZ are the good guys.
JesuisABC :whistle:
 
It is just a morale booster for Jordanian pilots. Otherwise, the greatest danger for a modern jet pilot over a territory not defended by sophisticated SAM's or an air force is actually a mechanical failure. F-16 being a single engine plane, is always going to remain a risky plane in these situation. If the engine fails, the F-22 can not prevent the laws of gravity to take over the situation. It would be better to use two engine planes over such areas, as the chances of both engine failing at the same time is inherently much smaller.
 
Rafale has joined to annihilate ISIS

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To be honest I wouldn't be suprised if the APG-77 has some super secret electronic attack feature built into it. Detect the emissions passively with the ALR-94 and jam that radar, paving the way for a larger strike against a SAM site or something like to that order.

Edit: Nvm. Maybe not so secret after all, IN FOCUS: Latest F-22 upgrade brings ability to jam enemy radars - 4/2/2012 - Flight Global

That might be part of the advantage, but jamming itself surely will be done by dedicated EW fighters which still should offer more performance / power in this role and with less operational costs. The main advantage is stealth and the ability to to detect threats and guide other fighters, which is based on the sensor capability. We saw similar joint efforts of RAF Eurofighters and Tornados, during the Libyan conflict, where the superior sensor infos of the EF were diverted to the Tornados via data links, to detect and attack or avoid threats.
 
You can thank your government for that. It's the best plane in the world, and your government refuses to fund it's future development, and pay for maintenance: All the while, funding a fighter that's over cost, delayed, and experts say may not actually live up to it's expectations.

F-22 production was cut way way to early in my opinion. At least 100 more should have been made. I have absolutely no problem with my tax dollars being used for that program.
 
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It is more, the Raptor is beyond what we really think it is. The problem was the number cut. They simply needed more of them out there.
I think table has been turned after Rafale and Typhoon show off their capability to shoot down F 22 Raptor .We can say its the one of the best air superiority aircraft.
 
I think table has been turned after Rafale and Typhoon show off their capability to shoot down F 22 Raptor .We can say its the one of the best air superiority aircraft.

Nope, the Rafale and the Typhoon show their ability to kill a close in aircraft with TVC. So what they prove is that an aircraft with TVC is no better than one without it.

At NO point has there been any proof that the Rafale and Typhoon come even close to killing the raptor if actual combat rules of BVR to WVR are taken. When they CANNOT see it, the Rafale and Typhoon will be long dead before they get even close to the raptor.
 
Nope, the Rafale and the Typhoon show their ability to kill a close in aircraft with TVC. So what they prove is that an aircraft with TVC is no better than one without it.

At NO point has there been any proof that the Rafale and Typhoon come even close to killing the raptor if actual combat rules of BVR to WVR are taken. When they CANNOT see it, the Rafale and Typhoon will be long dead before they get even close to the raptor.

Sorry you are wrong. India has selected Rafale, and hence it must be able to kill anything there.
 
Sorry you are wrong. India has selected Rafale, and hence it must be able to kill anything there.
F22 Raptor is not for sale, dear.

Also, no aircraft can challenge F22 Raptor in a (war) situation.

Results in exercises prove nothing, they are conducted to gain experience and understand different dynamics of conflict-related matters.
 
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