Europe's newest and deadliest MBT T-90M enters serial production

[Georg]

Europes newest and most deadly MBT is the Leopard 2 A7V introduced in 10-2019...already equipped with the 120L55A1 gun to put ventialtion holes in the T-14 Armata...

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Europes newest and most deadly MBT is the Leopard 2 A7V introduced in 10-2019...already equipped with the 120L55A1 gun to put ventialtion holes in the T-14 Armata...

If Leopard 2 puts a hole in T-14 then Germany will lose WW3 and end up losing Kiel in northern Germany to Russia just like Germany lost Konigsberg in eastern Germany to Russia in WW2.

 

[Georg]

Actually engines for T-72 and T-90 were and are produced in Russia, in Chelyabinsk, as 1500 hp engines for new T-14 Armata. T-90M engine have 1130 hp and power ratio 25.11 hp/t - higher or about the same as its overweight western rivals.

sorry need to lol about that claim... with all respcet that means the T-90M weight 45to... that would be 1.5to lighter than a T-72S.. The T-90M weigths 48to without external fuel tanks... thats 23,5hp/to put it on the lower level of modern power to weight ratio... and the engine offers much less torque...the number is more imortant to move heavy stuff..in this area the T-90M is way behind western counterparts and the reason why it stay no chance off road in a direct compare to tanks like Leclerc or Leo2 (ignoring such little facts like worse ground clearence of T-90 or extrem high ground pressure (small track footprint only M1A2 is worse in that area) and very limited suspension wheeltravel to level out bumps... which limits high speed off roading because the suspension gets quickly to its limits and the T-90 start bouncing)

BTW the officle combat weight claim for the T-90M is " combat weight does not exceed 50 t"

Means the real combat power to weight ratio is even lower than 23,5hp ... lets assume with ammo loaded, external fuel tanks and crew and equipment the weight is around 49,5to the power weight ratio drop to 22,8 hp/to

 

[vostok]

sorry need to lol about that claim... with all respcet that means the T-90M weight 45to... that would be 1.5to lighter than a T-72S.. The T-90M weigths 48to without external fuel tanks... thats 23,5hp/to

Yep, wikipedia cheated me with numbers - 23.5 is correct number.

 

[Longhorn]

Russian class teaches 6 continents model which does not have Europe as a continent. So what? PDF is based in the West which teaches 7 continents model which has Europe as a continent. When in Rome, do what Romans do.

There were only 5 when I was at school.

 

[nahtanbob]

The T-90 is Russian because Russia competes with West European companies on weapon contracts. At a certain level Russian people are European. They might not identify with the current crowd ruling Western Europe @vostok

 

[vostok]

The T-90 is Russian because Russia competes with West European companies on weapon contracts. At a certain level Russian people are European. They might not identify with the current crowd ruling Western Europe @vostok

Europe consists not only of Western Europe but of Eastern one also. Russian is both Eastern European and Eurasian state. 80% of Russian population live in European part of the country.

 

[nahtanbob]

Europe consists not only of Western Europe but of Eastern one also. Russian is both Eastern European and Eurasian state. 80% of Russian population live in European part of the country.

I do not care about Eurasian state of Russia. To a certain level Russian emigres in USA are quite similar to recent Western European arrivals in America

 

[vostok]

I do not care about Eurasian state of Russia. To a certain level Russian emigres in USA are quite similar to recent Western European arrivals in America

Difference in appearance of populations of European race is not from East to West, but from North to South. You can hardly distinguish Irish or Scottish from Russian. But you easily will distinguish Swedish from Spanish of Greek.

 

[striver44]

don't worry everything will be ok. meet the m829a4. est penetration 840mm RHA at 2 Km

and soon this bad boy will be installed in future euro MBT

Rheinmetall 130mm vs 120mm penetrator

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Europe consists not only of Western Europe but of Eastern one also. Russian is both Eastern European and Eurasian state. 80% of Russian population live in European part of the country.

Yes and Russia is the biggest country in Europe in terms of area and population so.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Russia

 

[nahtanbob]

Difference in appearance of populations of European race is not from East to West, but from North to South. You can hardly distinguish Irish or Scottish from Russian. But you easily will distinguish Swedish from Spanish of Greek.

Russians are similar to North Europeans thanks to historical ties with German states

 

[vostok]

Russians are similar to North Europeans thanks to historical ties with German states

Future Proto-Balto-Slavic and Proto-Germanic tribes separated from more or less single entity around 2500 years ago. So it is hard to say who is similar to whom - Russians to Germans or Germans to Russians, because most of modern-days Eastern and Northern German territory in Middle Ages was territory of Western Slavs such as Lutici, Ruyane, Obodrites, Sorbs and others.

 

[letsrock]

Russians are similar to North Europeans thanks to historical ties with German states

Russians dont consider themselves though. Learn to respect others as they see themselves. A people are not simply their skin color.