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^^where is turkey

Excluding Russia.Uk is the number one because of their spending amounts of defence they just like to always beef up defence.Although others as France and Germany can also do that.But they seem to ignore defence since fall of Soviet Union especially Germany.
In terms of operational forces turks are in top 10.maybe behind Italy but equal to Spain,Sweeden,Ukraine.
 
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if you choose to exclude russia from the list for some other reason it is acceptable. however saying russia is not part of europe proper is not very truthful

russia has always been ruled by the european part
russia has almost all it development in its european part
russia has had almost all its history written by the european paert
russia has been always considered a european country
 
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I would say Germany and time will prove it, perhaps they are not spending as much percentage of their gdp on defense like others. but they have the maximum potential in both economy and technology.
 
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my ranking isnt a straightforward one rather depends upon the respective specialities of a country
In Aviation: France better than England
In Armour: Germany leads the whole europe
In Electronic: England beats its way to the first
 
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night crawler seems like u have dual nationalites of these all thre countires i think

germany
france
england

firstly how better scientist they have to make weapons and how good their soldiers are on this basis my line up is this
 
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for me it will be Uk France Germany... Uk because what it has made in the past and what it can make in the future .. if they want to .
 
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if you choose to exclude russia from the list for some other reason it is acceptable. however saying russia is not part of europe proper is not very truthful

russia has always been ruled by the european part
russia has almost all it development in its european part
russia has had almost all its history written by the european paert
russia has been always considered a european country

Russia is not part of Europe because it is Russia which is a entity in its self ,in the modern world powers its termed as USA , Europe,Russia.
 
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agreed russia officialy not in europe but do france is nuke power or no
 
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night crawler seems like u have dual nationalites of these all thre countires i think

germany
france
england

firstly how better scientist they have to make weapons and how good their soldiers are on this basis my line up is this

nay not multi nationalities
but a lot book reading will do the same job!!:no:
 
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If Russia is to be set aside, I would say UK is leading, though not by much:

1) In Air power, UK has the largest and most technologically advanced air force in Europe. They have also ordered the most typhoons, and will also get F-35

2) In Navy, UK has 3 carriers, 4 Vanguard class SSBNs, 8 SSNs (which will get replaced by the advanced Astute class) and more surface vessels than any other European fleet.

3) Even the British army are almost on par with its continental neighbours, thanks to well trained troops. Their army, is the second largest in Europe (after France) and they field better artillery and armour than their French counterparts in my opinion.

4) The British nuclear forces are stronger than that of the French, and Britain has better second strike capability.

I have avoided mentioning space capabilities as I do not know about them.
 
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