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Europe bans Pakistan International Airlines for at least six months,

Good riddance to the corrupt PIA... Let it burn I say.

It's the world's worst most pathetic airline!

The only way to salvage this sinking airline is through privatization. The argument for a nation government run airline is weak especially for a corruption prone society like pakistan.



I say it's a good thing! PIA is a disaster. Let's privatize it and let it organically restart as a competitive private entity.

Which private player would be interested, one would rather start they own airline.
 
The aviation minister is using the term Fake License to cover up the rampant misgivings and corruption of his own departments by shifting the global spotlight onto a small group of professionals and in doing so has destroyed the esteemed global reputation of Pakistani pilots across the globe who have, amongst other things setup and continue to work for numerous famous global airlines. It is a commonly known fact that the minister himself has a fake degree and has spent years sidelined from the parliament because of it and to date the HEC has not reinstated his degree, so who is he to point fingers at others, and how credible, if at all are his accusations/intentions?

Typical pakistani response... Never take personal responsibility and instead point fingers at others. PIA is rife with PeePeePee corruption!

PIA pilots.have been caught drunk while flying, its planes are crashing likes flies, there are more pilots than airplanes due to political appointment.... take personal responsibility!

Which private player would be interested, one would rather start they own airline.

Then let it go bankrupt and allow a foreign airline to run the show... If you have a bunch of corrupt monkeys at the helm it's better to disband the clown show then to keep on spending tax payers money to keep it afloat!
 
So let’s summarise, it’s a mix of unqualified pilots, CAA standards being misapplied in 2012, I heard about this but it hasn’t been explained properly yet, and then also a minister and government with no finesse who has exacerbated a PR disaster. :tsk:
so basically its not PIA fault but CAA fault sir . they are the one took exam and granted certificates while people blaming pia . air blue find 4 and serene 2 of them too . i think now our gov should bring
US FAA
IATA
EASA
and make new system here its became a joke now .
 
This is a blessing in disguise perfect excuse to rid PIA of all political appointments and execute all pending reforms. I just hope those judicial pigs dont intervene as usual.
 
This is a blessing in disguise perfect excuse to rid PIA of all political appointments.
if they failed this time then forget CAA /PIA fixing forever . this time gov gambled so big thing to fix it they can fix it now or never .
 
Not good idea ask any financial expert you never sell a company when there is a scandal about it and its going in losses.

PIA has been incurring losses for decades now!!!... You have to sell because it's the management of the company has failed not the opportunity.

PIA would be an excellent opportunity for any capable investor.... You almost have a monopoly on the extensive pakistani global diaspora that travels to Pakistan often.

if they failed this time then forget CAA /PIA fixing forever . this time gov gambled so big thing to fix it they can fix it now or never .

It's not the government job to run an airline just like it's not the government's job to run a bus service, gas stations, donut shops etc.
 
if they failed this time then forget CAA /PIA fixing forever . this time gov gambled so big thing to fix it they can fix it now or never .

I am more worried about some judicial turd of IHC stopping reforms process than ability of govt to carry out reforms.
 
I am more worried about some judicial turd of IHC stopping reforms process than ability of govt to carry out reforms.
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everyone of you should read this @Jungibaaz this is how institutions get destroyed and country too .PIA ad 30 YEARS AGO .

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Allegations by minister 'whose own degree is fake' resulted in PIA Europe ban: Bilawal

Dawn.comUpdated July 01, 2020
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PPP chairperson Bilawal Bhutto-Zardari addresses a press conference in Lahore. — DawnNewsTV
PPP chairperson Bilawal Bhutto-Zardari on Wednesday held the PTI government responsible for the Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) being barred from operating flights to European countries, saying the government wants to sell off the national flag carrier's assets based on "lies".

Addressing a press conference in Lahore, he said PIA's permit to fly to EU countries was suspended because Aviation Minister Ghulam Sarwar Khan had accused its pilots of holding dubious licences "without any evidence".




"The minister whose own degree is fake ... levelled this type of allegation against our pilots without any evidence [leading to] them being banned across the world. No one has caused this type of damage to PIA in history as this government," he said, referring to Khan.

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UK withdraws PIA permit to operate from Birmingham, London and Manchester airports

Reuters | Dawn.comUpdated July 01, 2020
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The developments follow grounding of 262 pilots whose licences Aviation Minister Ghulam Sarwar Khan termed “dubious”. — Wikimedia Commons/File
The revelation of pilots holding "dubious" licences continued to take its toll as the United Kingdom Civil Aviation Authority said it was withdrawing the Pakistan International Airlines' (PIA) permit to operate from three of its airports and the United Arab Emirates sought to verify the credentials of its Pakistani pilots and engineers.

“PIA flights from Birmingham, London Heathrow and Manchester airports are suspended with immediate effect,” a spokesman for the UK authority told Reuters on Tuesday.




The three were major flying destinations for the airline.

Meanwhile, the United Arab Emirates is seeking to verify the credentials of the Pakistani pilots and engineers employed in its airlines after the government grounded 262 pilots for holding “dubious” qualifications.

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The director general of the UAE's General Civil Aviation Authority Saif Mohammed Al Suwaidi requested the verification of the credentials of Pakistani pilots, aircraft maintenance engineers, and flight operations officers working in the Middle Eastern country in a June 29 letter reviewed by Reuters to Pakistan Civil Aviation Authority (PCAA) Director General Hassan Nasir Jamy.

“We would like to request your good offices to verify the licensing credentials of the attached pilots list who are currently holding UAE's pilots licences based on licences and qualifications issued by PCAA,” the letter said.

The aviation ministry did not respond to a request for comment.

The announcements come on the heels of the European Union Air Safety Agency's (EASA) decision to suspend PIA's operations in the bloc for the next six months.
 
Flying hours never trumps a honest license awarded through proper merit .... Corruption and deceitfulness should never be excused!

I totally agree, corruption and deceit should not be forgiven, even by the Prime Minister of the country!!

However, couldn't the aviation Minister wait for the outcome of the inquiry instead of barking in the National Assembly about it and thereby putting the stake and honor of the entire PIA and the country at risk? I mean what was so urgent that it couldn't wait, was he going to die before the report was due? Wasn't grounding of the pilots with so called 'dubious' degree/license enough?
 

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