Featured EU, Turkey Clash over Hagia Sophia, Mediterranean Drilling

[Deactivated]

Occupied ? It was a Greek city since 315 bc....

there were dinosaurs since 34524654645 BC - bullshiyeRRt

 

[Constantin84]

LOL

Dw is utterly biased and downright lying organization when it comes to Turkey. I have seen it again and again.

Secondly, Corona Virus has dented tourism worldwide. Turkish tourism industry is very secure over all.

Turkey earns tens of billions of dollars via tourism and invests tax collections from tourism revenue in indigeneous military industry, infrastructure, economic output, education, digital ecosystem etc.
Win-win for all

Germans and especially Britishers should visit Turkey instead of Spain. Turkey is more beautiful, larger, more exotic, and way more cost effective.

That's nice but it won't happen anymore if they continue to threathen to flood Europe with illegals and the territorial integrity of 2 EU countries.

 

[CriticalThinker02]

France bans Muslim face veil because it's their country and their rules but Turkey can not do what they want in their own country?, stfu EU.

 

[dBSPL]

Occupied ? It was a Greek city since 315 bc....

It depends on where we look at the subject. Is today's greece the only and absolute heiress of all helen culture? Or is it a modern nation built by a group of eastern Christians, most of them migrating from Anatolia? Another problem is that the Ottoman state took this city with the consent of the Rums and by fighting against the Venetians.

If we are going to talk only about Thessaloniki; the city was founded by the Macedonian king Kassandros in today's Thermi in 315 BC. Kassandros named city as Thessaloniki, sister of Alexander the Great, to claim the throne of Macedonia.

Thessaloniki saw four wars between 550-750, most importantly in 607, during Macedonia's Slavic and Avar/Turkic occupations.

In the summer of 904, an Arab navy from Crete seized the city. The biggest destruction of city history took place. At the beginning of the 10th and 11th centuries, the Bulgarian tsars Great Simeon and Samuel claimed rights in the city.

When Thessaloniki was occupied together with the capital Constantinople during the Fourth Crusade in 1204, the Byzantine lost the city again and became the center of the Latin Thessaloniki Kingdom. Many important Orthodox churches such as Saint Demetrios and Hagia Sophia were turned into Roman Catholic churches to offend local people.

With the weakening of the Latins, the City was taken back in 1246 by Byzantium. In the spring of 1387, a rising balkan-anatolian state, Ottoman troops under Gazi Evrenos took over Thessaloniki.

When the Ottoman state defeated against Timur after 1402 Ankara war, the Byzantine Emperor Manuil took Thessaloniki and demolished all the Ottoman castles and mosques. In line with the treaty signed between Emîr Süleyman Çelebi and the Byzantines, Thessaloniki officially passed into the Byzantine administration in 1403.

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The Byzantines sold Thessaloniki to rich marchant state Venice in 1423. The Ottomans objected to it and waged war against Venice.

Historians such as Konstantin Jireček or Apostolos Bakalopoulos described the Venetian rule as the saddest period in the city's history. The Venetians acted bully against the people of the city. In this once lively, rich and populous merchant city, hunger and misery prevailed in this period; most of the people left the city.

II. Murad offered to provide a privileged status to the people of the city if they surrendered without fighting, the Greek people approached this offer positively, but the Venice administration rejected Murad's offer. II. Murad called for those who left the city during the Venetians, and returned them to their previously acquired property.

Some of the Jews expelled from Spain in 1492 were placed in Ottoman lands, especially in Thessaloniki. The weaving industry was established here.

After settling down, the Jews entered into a remarkable scientific event and created a science academy with a rich library under the leadership of the law and Hebrew scholar Rabbi Samuel de Medina.

Since this period, Ottoman Thessaloniki had become an important cultural and economic center where various Christian, Jewish and Muslim societies live together in harmony.

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After the declaration of the Tanzimat Reforms Decree in 1839, Thessaloniki showed a great development in the field of trade and culture, as well as it was one of the most heavily influenced cities of Ottomans after the French Revolution. Many art schools were opened.

As of 1863, tram started to operate. During the reign of Sultan Abdülaziz, a railway was brought to Thessaloniki in 1871 as part of the Rumeli Railways project, and this line was connected to Skopje. In 1896, it was connected to Istanbul.

New port facilities were built between 1897-1903. Compared to other cities Thessaloniki made great progress in every respect during reign II. Abdulhamid.

The rapid population growth in Thessaloniki in the second half of the 19th century is related to the intensive trade with the outside world and the construction of Rumeli railways to a large extent. Thessaloniki was one of the leading Ottoman cities with modern transportation facilities.

When the electric tram came to the city in 1907, there was no electric tram even in Istanbul.

Thessaloniki is also important because of it is the center of the Ottoman modernization. It was the center of the İttihat ve Terakki Society and the Young Turk movement development.

Thessaloniki, the second largest city of the Ottoman State after Istanbul, delivered to the russian backed Greeks by the garrison commander Tahsin Pasha, who believed that resistance would not be possible while get not support from the capital, during the 1912 Balkan Wars.

The surrender of the 25,000-strong Ottoman Army in the city without resistance resulted in a great surprise and panic among the people and more than thousands Muslim Ottoman citizens were massacred by Greek gangs while their properties looted. In the next 10 years, many Jewish and Muslim assets in the city were destroyed, looted and people forced to migrate. The few remaining Muslims left their hometown with the Greek-Turkish population exchange that was decided in Lausanne. The city suffered such a decline that even today it fell behind the Athens.

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After the Lausanne, Thessaloniki's officially Greek soil status accepted by Turkey also.

But, like the photo I showed above, while destroying the entire history of the city; Greeks not asked this to nor Turkey neither Europe, and they have seen it as an internal matter.

While Europe remains silent for these cultural devastations, today it displays a complete example of hypocrisy.

 

[Deactivated]

It depends on where we look at the subject. Is today's greece the only and absolute heiress of all helen culture? Or is it a modern nation built by a group of eastern Christians, most of them migrating from Anatolia? Another problem is that the Ottoman state took this city with the consent of the Rums and by fighting against the Venetians.

If we are going to talk only about Thessaloniki; the city was founded by the Macedonian king Kassandros in today's Thermi in 315 BC. Kassandros named city as Thessaloniki, sister of Alexander the Great, to claim the throne of Macedonia.

Thessaloniki saw four wars between 550-750, most importantly in 607, during Macedonia's Slavic and Avar/Turkic occupations.

In the summer of 904, an Arab navy from Crete seized the city. The biggest destruction of city history took place. At the beginning of the 10th and 11th centuries, the Bulgarian tsars Great Simeon and Samuel claimed rights in the city.

When Thessaloniki was occupied together with the capital Constantinople during the Fourth Crusade in 1204, the Byzantine lost the city again and became the center of the Latin Thessaloniki Kingdom. Many important Orthodox churches such as Saint Demetrios and Hagia Sophia were turned into Roman Catholic churches to offend local people.

With the weakening of the Latins, the City was taken back in 1246 by Byzantium. In the spring of 1387, a rising balkan-anatolian state, Ottoman troops under Gazi Evrenos took over Thessaloniki.

When the Ottoman state defeated against Timur after 1402 Ankara war, the Byzantine Emperor Manuil took Thessaloniki and demolished all the Ottoman castles and mosques. In line with the treaty signed between Emîr Süleyman Çelebi and the Byzantines, Thessaloniki officially passed into the Byzantine administration in 1403.

_____________

The Byzantines sold Thessaloniki to rich marchant state Venice in 1423. The Ottomans objected to it and waged war against Venice.

Historians such as Konstantin Jireček or Apostolos Bakalopoulos described the Venetian rule as the saddest period in the city's history. The Venetians acted bully against the people of the city. In this once lively, rich and populous merchant city, hunger and misery prevailed in this period; most of the people left the city.

II. Murad offered to provide a privileged status to the people of the city if they surrendered without fighting, the Greek people approached this offer positively, but the Venice administration rejected Murad's offer. II. Murad called for those who left the city during the Venetians, and returned them to their previously acquired property.

Some of the Jews expelled from Spain in 1492 were placed in Ottoman lands, especially in Thessaloniki. The weaving industry was established here.

After settling down, the Jews entered into a remarkable scientific event and created a science academy with a rich library under the leadership of the law and Hebrew scholar Rabbi Samuel de Medina.

Since this period, Ottoman Thessaloniki has become an important cultural and economic center where various Christian, Jewish and Muslim societies live together in harmony.

_____________

After the declaration of the Tanzimat Reforms Decree in 1839, Thessaloniki showed a great development in the field of trade and culture, as well as it was one of the most heavily influenced cities of Ottomans after the French Revolution. Many art schools were opened.

As of 1863, tram started to operate. During the reign of Sultan Abdülaziz, a railway was brought to Thessaloniki in 1871 as part of the Rumeli Railways project, and this line was connected to Skopje. In 1896, it was connected to Istanbul.

New port facilities were built between 1897-1903. Compared to other cities Thessaloniki made great progress in every respect during reign II. Abdulhamid.

The rapid population growth in Thessaloniki in the second half of the 19th century is related to the intensive trade with the outside world and the construction of Rumeli railways to a large extent. Thessaloniki was one of the leading Ottoman cities with modern transportation facilities.

When the electric tram came to the city in 1907, there was no electric tram even in Istanbul.

Thessaloniki is also important because of it is the center of the Ottoman modernization. It was the center of the İttihat ve Terakki Society and the Young Turk movement development.

Thessaloniki, the second largest city of the Ottoman State after Istanbul, delivered to the russian backed Greeks by the garrison commander Tahsin Pasha, who believed that resistance would not be possible while get not support from the capital, during the 1912 Balkan Wars.

The surrender of the 25,000-strong Ottoman Army in the city without resistance resulted in a great surprise and panic among the people and more than thousands Muslim Ottoman citizens were massacred by Greek gangs while their properties looted. In the next 10 years, many Jewish and Muslim assets in the city were destroyed, looted and people forced to migrate. The few remaining Muslims left their hometown with the Greek-Turkish population exchange that was decided in Lausanne.

_____________

After the Lausanne, Thessaloniki's officially Greek soil status accepted by Turkey also.

But, like the photo I showed above, while destroying the entire history of the city; Greeks not asked this to nor Turkey neither Europe, and they have seen it as an internal matter.

While Europe remains silent for these cultural devastations, today it displays a complete example of hypocrisy.

stop beating them up with facts

 

[Constantin84]

It depends on where we look at the subject. Is today's greece the only and absolute heiress of all helen culture? Or is it a modern nation built by a group of eastern Christians, most of them migrating from Anatolia? Another problem is that the Ottoman state took this city with the consent of the Rums and by fighting against the Venetians.

If we are going to talk only about Thessaloniki; the city was founded by the Macedonian king Kassandros in today's Thermi in 315 BC. Kassandros named city as Thessaloniki, sister of Alexander the Great, to claim the throne of Macedonia.

Thessaloniki saw four wars between 550-750, most importantly in 607, during Macedonia's Slavic and Avar/Turkic occupations.

In the summer of 904, an Arab navy from Crete seized the city. The biggest destruction of city history took place. At the beginning of the 10th and 11th centuries, the Bulgarian tsars Great Simeon and Samuel claimed rights in the city.

When Thessaloniki was occupied together with the capital Constantinople during the Fourth Crusade in 1204, the Byzantine lost the city again and became the center of the Latin Thessaloniki Kingdom. Many important Orthodox churches such as Saint Demetrios and Hagia Sophia were turned into Roman Catholic churches to offend local people.

With the weakening of the Latins, the City was taken back in 1246 by Byzantium. In the spring of 1387, a rising balkan-anatolian state, Ottoman troops under Gazi Evrenos took over Thessaloniki.

When the Ottoman state defeated against Timur after 1402 Ankara war, the Byzantine Emperor Manuil took Thessaloniki and demolished all the Ottoman castles and mosques. In line with the treaty signed between Emîr Süleyman Çelebi and the Byzantines, Thessaloniki officially passed into the Byzantine administration in 1403.

_____________

The Byzantines sold Thessaloniki to rich marchant state Venice in 1423. The Ottomans objected to it and waged war against Venice.

Historians such as Konstantin Jireček or Apostolos Bakalopoulos described the Venetian rule as the saddest period in the city's history. The Venetians acted bully against the people of the city. In this once lively, rich and populous merchant city, hunger and misery prevailed in this period; most of the people left the city.

II. Murad offered to provide a privileged status to the people of the city if they surrendered without fighting, the Greek people approached this offer positively, but the Venice administration rejected Murad's offer. II. Murad called for those who left the city during the Venetians, and returned them to their previously acquired property.

Some of the Jews expelled from Spain in 1492 were placed in Ottoman lands, especially in Thessaloniki. The weaving industry was established here.

After settling down, the Jews entered into a remarkable scientific event and created a science academy with a rich library under the leadership of the law and Hebrew scholar Rabbi Samuel de Medina.

Since this period, Ottoman Thessaloniki had become an important cultural and economic center where various Christian, Jewish and Muslim societies live together in harmony.

_____________

After the declaration of the Tanzimat Reforms Decree in 1839, Thessaloniki showed a great development in the field of trade and culture, as well as it was one of the most heavily influenced cities of Ottomans after the French Revolution. Many art schools were opened.

As of 1863, tram started to operate. During the reign of Sultan Abdülaziz, a railway was brought to Thessaloniki in 1871 as part of the Rumeli Railways project, and this line was connected to Skopje. In 1896, it was connected to Istanbul.

New port facilities were built between 1897-1903. Compared to other cities Thessaloniki made great progress in every respect during reign II. Abdulhamid.

The rapid population growth in Thessaloniki in the second half of the 19th century is related to the intensive trade with the outside world and the construction of Rumeli railways to a large extent. Thessaloniki was one of the leading Ottoman cities with modern transportation facilities.

When the electric tram came to the city in 1907, there was no electric tram even in Istanbul.

Thessaloniki is also important because of it is the center of the Ottoman modernization. It was the center of the İttihat ve Terakki Society and the Young Turk movement development.

Thessaloniki, the second largest city of the Ottoman State after Istanbul, delivered to the russian backed Greeks by the garrison commander Tahsin Pasha, who believed that resistance would not be possible while get not support from the capital, during the 1912 Balkan Wars.

The surrender of the 25,000-strong Ottoman Army in the city without resistance resulted in a great surprise and panic among the people and more than thousands Muslim Ottoman citizens were massacred by Greek gangs while their properties looted. In the next 10 years, many Jewish and Muslim assets in the city were destroyed, looted and people forced to migrate. The few remaining Muslims left their hometown with the Greek-Turkish population exchange that was decided in Lausanne. The city suffered such a decline that even today it fell behind the Athens.

_____________

After the Lausanne, Thessaloniki's officially Greek soil status accepted by Turkey also.

But, like the photo I showed above, while destroying the entire history of the city; Greeks not asked this to nor Turkey neither Europe, and they have seen it as an internal matter.

While Europe remains silent for these cultural devastations, today it displays a complete example of hypocrisy.

Yes, the city has a rich history, a rich Greek history...in the end it was liberated from Ottoman yoke and we must celebrate when natives regain their lands

 

[Tigers]

France bans Muslim face veil because it's their country and their rules but Turkey can not do what they want in their own country?, stfu EU.

The ban on face veils is more widespread than France. You see it in Latvia, Bulgaria, Belgium, Luxembourg, Denmark, Spain, Norway, Italy in different forms and levels. Much as I oppose the changes to Hagia Sophia status, the reasoning Erdogan has used
notably 'sovereign right', 'public opinion' and 'court ruling' is similar to what EU member states used. In a world gone mad, no one wants to say the truth that two wrongs will never make a right. France is wrong and so is Turkey.

 

[Constantin84]

stop beating them up with facts

What facts? The Greeks reetok their city and reconstructed the landscape...good for them
I can't really understand why Turks seem to thing that their opression wasn't nothing but robbery...They brought no innovation, no tech...just rape ,theft and murder.....The Europeans atleast brought railways in their colonies....Turks...nothing...but the Turks were inferior culturally and technically sneaking to.The people they conquered....so,that's understandable

 

[Deactivated]

What facts? The Greeks reetok their city and reconstructed the landscape...good for them

facts? I got you babe:
- pointing out destructive European nature
- pointing out western hypocrisy
- pointing out that the ottoman ruled with fairness, faith and brought culture, peace, and prosperity

 

[Tigers]

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As of March 2013, there were 82,693 mosques in Turkey.

Some of them very old and with great architect and history.

Why is it so important , to stick yet another mosque , deliberately where it pisses off someone else ?

Do not understand the logic of such a behavior.

A house of God , should be the source of peace , not dispute.

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Lay off your high horse. Israel has burned down churches, bombed mosques, converted mosques to bars and event venues.

 

[Constantin84]

facts? I got you babe:
- pointing out destructive European nature
- pointing out western hypocrisy
- pointing out that the ottoman ruled with fairness, faith and brought culture, peace, and prosperity

Fairness my a$$....You were plundered and rapists...that's why everyone in the Balkans hate you
How can you compare yourself with the Greek testimony? They brought so much to this world while Turks brought nothing but savagery..

 

[Deactivated]

Fairness my a$$....You were plundered and rapists...that's why everyone in the Balkans hate you

no... you genocidal Christian crusaders hate us - not these Muslim Balkan people, suffered too much from yall... the time will come, yall will turn back on our laps canim

 

[Constantin84]

no... you genocidal Christian crusaders hate us - not these Muslim Balkan people, suffered too much from yall... the time will come, yall will turn back on our laps canim

Come at me bro

 

[HAIDER]

Well, its not new ..

 

[Deactivated]

Come at me bro

Wait bro... just be a patient bloodthirsty crusader

Well, its not new ..View attachment 651159

still sticking in their butts - they turkophobia in Europe is real lmfao