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Yes you are right... Hope Ethiopian look at the situation with humanitarian angle and takes care of Egyptian share of water.....
Ethiopian army official: Country will defend itself over dam
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Yes you are right... Hope Ethiopian look at the situation with humanitarian angle and takes care of Egyptian share of water.....
They do, its just that the Egyptians believe that the whole river belongs to them and the Ethiopians dont care anymore- because they lost enough time already on these useless negotiations which stalled the dams construction, now they go in partly because they know they have the support of certain other nations in case the egyptians engage in an agressive, hostile, imperialistic mission.
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The geopolitical dimension of "Israel" in the issue of the "Renaissance Dam" is highlighted through the origin of the idea, which dates back to the era of the sixties, as the dam was the result of a study conducted by the US administration in favor of its ally "Israel", after Egypt president Gamal Abdel Nasser headed to Building the "High Dam".
During that period, the American Agricultural Reclamation Office carried out several studies between 1956-1964, before identifying 26 sites for the construction of dams in Ethiopia, the most important of which are 4 dams on the main blue Nile, namely: “Karadobe, Mabel, Mandia, and the Border Dam (Actual Renaissance)” In addition to the agricultural lands that will be reclaimed after the construction of dams. The American studies came in the wake of the official agreement signed by Washington with the Addis Ababa authorities in 1957, accompanied by an Ethiopian refusal to offer Nasser to form a joint technical body for the Nile River countries.
"Israel" seeks to make Ethiopia a passage for it towards Africa, and a strategic outlet that will allow it to open political, security and military channels in the Horn of Africa that will be supportive in its ongoing conflict in the region through its cooperation with the states of Ethiopia, Eritrea and Djibouti, and this has been strengthened through developments in the Red Sea region and Especially in Yemen.
Hence.."Israel" is present at this "Renaissance Dam".. and confirmed:
“We will support Ethiopia technology to benefit from its water resources,” this is what Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said to the Ethiopian parliament in July 2016 during his visit to Addis Ababa.
Netanyahu's words were considered clear support for Addis Ababa regarding the issue of its dispute with Egypt regarding the "Renaissance Dam", especially since it coincided with the opening of the first phase of the dam by the Ethiopian authorities on the waters of the Blue Nile in the same month of his visit .
Israeli statements in support of Ethiopia followed, as Deputy Director-General for African Affairs at the Israeli Foreign Ministry, Einat Shilin, announced in December 2019 that Tel Aviv was ready to "share its vast experience in water management" with Addis Ababa.
Prior to that, the Israeli ambassador to Ethiopia, Rafael Morav, announced that "Israel" is working to introduce a modern irrigation system in Ethiopia.
In addition to political support, the Israeli "Debka" website revealed in July 2019 that "Israel" has completed the deployment of the Israeli "Spyder-MR" missile system near the "Renaissance Dam".
Although the Israeli authorities denied this information, the former Ethiopian ambassador to "Israel" Hilawi Yusuf, spoke about the acquisition of contracts for the management of power stations in Ethiopia, including the "Renaissance Dam" station, by an Israeli company. Youssef stressed that "Israel" has 240 investors working in Ethiopia in the areas of irrigation, electricity and water, in addition to implementing huge irrigation projects through Ethiopian water after the completion of the dam's construction, in parallel with financing 200 million dollars to develop irrigation systems.
This indicates, according to many data, that the negotiation mechanism followed by Ethiopia with Egypt was established by a negotiating team in the Israeli Foreign Ministry, including former Foreign Minister Shaul Mofaz, and David Kamehi, a former agent of the Israeli intelligence "Mossad." The Israeli government also opened a "public subscription" at the Central Bank of Israel to collect donations directed to bonds and bills to serve the "Renaissance Dam" project, leading to the Ethiopian government recruiting many Israeli experts and technicians to work in the stages of experimentation and implementation throughout the second phase. At a time when the former Sudanese Undersecretary of Irrigation, Haider Youssef, revealed that there is an entire floor in the Ethiopian Ministry of Water for Israeli water experts.
Israeli aims:
During the past decades, "Israel" failed to impose its projects to take advantage of the waters of the Nile River, in the face of the repeated Egyptian refusal to do so, despite what was announced by Sadat, whose statements regarding the delivery of "Nile waters" to occupied Palestine collided with a large political and popular opposition that led him to abandon the idea, which President Hosni Mubarak continued, and after that President Abdel Fattah Al-Sisi.
Israel is moving within the principle of maximum pressure on Egypt in order to push it politically and economically, to return to the projects of transferring “Nile waters” towards the settlements and occupied cities in Palestine, through its direct intervention in the issue of the “Renaissance Dam” and affecting its negative repercussions against Egypt and its water and political security. . Through this, Tel Aviv seeks to push towards recognition of it primarily as a Middle Eastern "state", and as a party concerned with the waters of the Nile River, from the Ethiopian portal, what it sees as a "right" to benefit from the river's water.
While some Israeli circles believe that the "Renaissance Dam" hinders the flow of Nile waters towards occupied Palestine through Egyptian territory at a later time if Egypt acquiesces to pressure, the strong and supportive Israeli presence in Ethiopia on this file indicates otherwise. As Tel Aviv now controls a large percentage of water and electrical projects in Ethiopia (from the source countries), which will make it control at a later stage the flow of the Nile water, from the source to the estuary, while ensuring that Egypt gets a certain percentage, provided that it is among the " The estuary, "meaning that Israel requires that water be reached by it, in exchange for permission to reach Egypt, through its partnership with Ethiopia in "The Ethiopian Bank for the Export of the Blue Nile Water ".
What strengthened those doubts is that Egypt built 6 huge unannounced tunnels in the Sinai, according to the British Middle East Observer website in 2016, suggesting that it aims to maybe "deliver the waters of the Nile to Israel." The British website indicated that "the Egyptian government announced that it will build 3 tunnels for cars and one tunnel for trains, but it has not announced anything about six other tunnels that are being worked on."
During that period, the American Agricultural Reclamation Office carried out several studies between 1956-1964, before identifying 26 sites for the construction of dams in Ethiopia, the most important of which are 4 dams on the main blue Nile, namely: “Karadobe, Mabel, Mandia, and the Border Dam (Actual Renaissance)” In addition to the agricultural lands that will be reclaimed after the construction of dams. The American studies came in the wake of the official agreement signed by Washington with the Addis Ababa authorities in 1957, accompanied by an Ethiopian refusal to offer Nasser to form a joint technical body for the Nile River countries.
"Israel" seeks to make Ethiopia a passage for it towards Africa, and a strategic outlet that will allow it to open political, security and military channels in the Horn of Africa that will be supportive in its ongoing conflict in the region through its cooperation with the states of Ethiopia, Eritrea and Djibouti, and this has been strengthened through developments in the Red Sea region and Especially in Yemen.
Hence.."Israel" is present at this "Renaissance Dam".. and confirmed:
“We will support Ethiopia technology to benefit from its water resources,” this is what Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said to the Ethiopian parliament in July 2016 during his visit to Addis Ababa.
Netanyahu's words were considered clear support for Addis Ababa regarding the issue of its dispute with Egypt regarding the "Renaissance Dam", especially since it coincided with the opening of the first phase of the dam by the Ethiopian authorities on the waters of the Blue Nile in the same month of his visit .
Israeli statements in support of Ethiopia followed, as Deputy Director-General for African Affairs at the Israeli Foreign Ministry, Einat Shilin, announced in December 2019 that Tel Aviv was ready to "share its vast experience in water management" with Addis Ababa.
Prior to that, the Israeli ambassador to Ethiopia, Rafael Morav, announced that "Israel" is working to introduce a modern irrigation system in Ethiopia.
In addition to political support, the Israeli "Debka" website revealed in July 2019 that "Israel" has completed the deployment of the Israeli "Spyder-MR" missile system near the "Renaissance Dam".
Although the Israeli authorities denied this information, the former Ethiopian ambassador to "Israel" Hilawi Yusuf, spoke about the acquisition of contracts for the management of power stations in Ethiopia, including the "Renaissance Dam" station, by an Israeli company. Youssef stressed that "Israel" has 240 investors working in Ethiopia in the areas of irrigation, electricity and water, in addition to implementing huge irrigation projects through Ethiopian water after the completion of the dam's construction, in parallel with financing 200 million dollars to develop irrigation systems.
This indicates, according to many data, that the negotiation mechanism followed by Ethiopia with Egypt was established by a negotiating team in the Israeli Foreign Ministry, including former Foreign Minister Shaul Mofaz, and David Kamehi, a former agent of the Israeli intelligence "Mossad." The Israeli government also opened a "public subscription" at the Central Bank of Israel to collect donations directed to bonds and bills to serve the "Renaissance Dam" project, leading to the Ethiopian government recruiting many Israeli experts and technicians to work in the stages of experimentation and implementation throughout the second phase. At a time when the former Sudanese Undersecretary of Irrigation, Haider Youssef, revealed that there is an entire floor in the Ethiopian Ministry of Water for Israeli water experts.
Israeli aims:
During the past decades, "Israel" failed to impose its projects to take advantage of the waters of the Nile River, in the face of the repeated Egyptian refusal to do so, despite what was announced by Sadat, whose statements regarding the delivery of "Nile waters" to occupied Palestine collided with a large political and popular opposition that led him to abandon the idea, which President Hosni Mubarak continued, and after that President Abdel Fattah Al-Sisi.
Israel is moving within the principle of maximum pressure on Egypt in order to push it politically and economically, to return to the projects of transferring “Nile waters” towards the settlements and occupied cities in Palestine, through its direct intervention in the issue of the “Renaissance Dam” and affecting its negative repercussions against Egypt and its water and political security. . Through this, Tel Aviv seeks to push towards recognition of it primarily as a Middle Eastern "state", and as a party concerned with the waters of the Nile River, from the Ethiopian portal, what it sees as a "right" to benefit from the river's water.
While some Israeli circles believe that the "Renaissance Dam" hinders the flow of Nile waters towards occupied Palestine through Egyptian territory at a later time if Egypt acquiesces to pressure, the strong and supportive Israeli presence in Ethiopia on this file indicates otherwise. As Tel Aviv now controls a large percentage of water and electrical projects in Ethiopia (from the source countries), which will make it control at a later stage the flow of the Nile water, from the source to the estuary, while ensuring that Egypt gets a certain percentage, provided that it is among the " The estuary, "meaning that Israel requires that water be reached by it, in exchange for permission to reach Egypt, through its partnership with Ethiopia in "The Ethiopian Bank for the Export of the Blue Nile Water ".
What strengthened those doubts is that Egypt built 6 huge unannounced tunnels in the Sinai, according to the British Middle East Observer website in 2016, suggesting that it aims to maybe "deliver the waters of the Nile to Israel." The British website indicated that "the Egyptian government announced that it will build 3 tunnels for cars and one tunnel for trains, but it has not announced anything about six other tunnels that are being worked on."
Ethiopia says will fill Nile dam regardless of deal with Egypt, Sudan
BY AGENCIES
ISTANBUL AFRICA
JUN 26, 2020 11:46 AM GMT+3
The Blue Nile river flows near the site of the planned Grand Ethiopian Renaissance Dam near Assosa in the Benishangul-Gumuz region of Ethiopia, near Sudan, some 800 kilometers (500 miles) from the capital Addis Ababa, June 28, 2013. (AP Photo)
Ethiopia says it will start filling the reservoir of Africa's largest dam along the Nile, despite a lack of agreement from downstream nations Egypt and Sudan.
The $4.6 billion Grand Ethiopian Renaissance Dam (GERD), which Ethiopia has been building since 2010 along the Blue Nile, has long caused animosity with Egypt.
"We will go ahead with the filling of the dam next month even if there's no agreement reached," Ethiopian Foreign Minister Gedu Andargachew told German Press Agency (dpa).
He said that while they were still hoping to reach an agreement, "Egypt's insistence on controlling the river flow" was hampering proceedings.
A decade of arduous talks involving the two downstream countries, Egypt and Sudan, and upstream Ethiopia have ended in deadlock, with Egypt turning to the U.N. Security Council last week.
Egypt formally asked the Security Council to intervene in a three-page letter the same day.
The Egyptian letter asked the U.N.’s most powerful body to call Ethiopia back into talks for a “fair and balanced solution,” and to urge it to refrain from unilateral acts. The government warned that filling the dam without a deal “constitutes a clear and present danger to Egypt,” with repercussions that “threaten international peace and security.”
Egypt seeks a legally binding deal that would guarantee the appropriate flows of water and a legal mechanism for resolving disputes before the dam starts operating. Sudan later joined Egypt in asking the Security Council to intervene in the dispute, warning that the window for the three countries to reach an agreement “is closing by the hour.”
Sudanese Foreign Minister Asmaa Mohammed Abdalla asked the council in a letter obtained Thursday by The Associated Press to call on leaders of the three countries “to demonstrate their political will and commitment by resolving the few remaining issues and conclude an agreement” on the basis of the draft Sudan submitted June 14.
Ethiopia, however, has threatened to start filling the 74 billion-cubic-meter reservoir when the rainy season begins in July, a step Egypt considers both unacceptable and illegal.
Ethiopia wants the hydroelectric dam in order to expand its power exports whereas Egypt relies almost exclusively on the Nile for farming, industry and domestic water use.
It is concerned that GERD's sluices will control water flow in ways that will make life difficult for Egyptians.
Ethiopia says Egyptian concerns are baseless.
"The Egyptians want us to offer a lot, but they are not ready to offer us anything. They want to control everything. We are not discussing a water-sharing agreement," Andargachew said.
The United States earlier this year tried to broker a deal, but Ethiopia did not attend the signing meeting in February and accused the Trump administration of siding with Egypt. Last week, the U.S. National Security Council tweeted that “257 million people in east Africa are relying on Ethiopia to show strong leadership, which means striking a fair deal.”
U.N. Secretary-General Antonio Guterres said at a news conference Thursday that the U.N. believes the negotiating process “is still moving forward” and fully supports it.
“We believe that the only way out in a situation like this is through dialogue among the parties, and we will be at the disposal of the parties,” he said.
https://www.dailysabah.com/world/af...-nile-dam-regardless-of-deal-with-egypt-sudan
BY AGENCIES
ISTANBUL AFRICA
JUN 26, 2020 11:46 AM GMT+3
The Blue Nile river flows near the site of the planned Grand Ethiopian Renaissance Dam near Assosa in the Benishangul-Gumuz region of Ethiopia, near Sudan, some 800 kilometers (500 miles) from the capital Addis Ababa, June 28, 2013. (AP Photo)
Ethiopia says it will start filling the reservoir of Africa's largest dam along the Nile, despite a lack of agreement from downstream nations Egypt and Sudan.
The $4.6 billion Grand Ethiopian Renaissance Dam (GERD), which Ethiopia has been building since 2010 along the Blue Nile, has long caused animosity with Egypt.
"We will go ahead with the filling of the dam next month even if there's no agreement reached," Ethiopian Foreign Minister Gedu Andargachew told German Press Agency (dpa).
He said that while they were still hoping to reach an agreement, "Egypt's insistence on controlling the river flow" was hampering proceedings.
A decade of arduous talks involving the two downstream countries, Egypt and Sudan, and upstream Ethiopia have ended in deadlock, with Egypt turning to the U.N. Security Council last week.
Egypt formally asked the Security Council to intervene in a three-page letter the same day.
The Egyptian letter asked the U.N.’s most powerful body to call Ethiopia back into talks for a “fair and balanced solution,” and to urge it to refrain from unilateral acts. The government warned that filling the dam without a deal “constitutes a clear and present danger to Egypt,” with repercussions that “threaten international peace and security.”
Egypt seeks a legally binding deal that would guarantee the appropriate flows of water and a legal mechanism for resolving disputes before the dam starts operating. Sudan later joined Egypt in asking the Security Council to intervene in the dispute, warning that the window for the three countries to reach an agreement “is closing by the hour.”
Sudanese Foreign Minister Asmaa Mohammed Abdalla asked the council in a letter obtained Thursday by The Associated Press to call on leaders of the three countries “to demonstrate their political will and commitment by resolving the few remaining issues and conclude an agreement” on the basis of the draft Sudan submitted June 14.
Ethiopia, however, has threatened to start filling the 74 billion-cubic-meter reservoir when the rainy season begins in July, a step Egypt considers both unacceptable and illegal.
Ethiopia wants the hydroelectric dam in order to expand its power exports whereas Egypt relies almost exclusively on the Nile for farming, industry and domestic water use.
It is concerned that GERD's sluices will control water flow in ways that will make life difficult for Egyptians.
Ethiopia says Egyptian concerns are baseless.
"The Egyptians want us to offer a lot, but they are not ready to offer us anything. They want to control everything. We are not discussing a water-sharing agreement," Andargachew said.
The United States earlier this year tried to broker a deal, but Ethiopia did not attend the signing meeting in February and accused the Trump administration of siding with Egypt. Last week, the U.S. National Security Council tweeted that “257 million people in east Africa are relying on Ethiopia to show strong leadership, which means striking a fair deal.”
U.N. Secretary-General Antonio Guterres said at a news conference Thursday that the U.N. believes the negotiating process “is still moving forward” and fully supports it.
“We believe that the only way out in a situation like this is through dialogue among the parties, and we will be at the disposal of the parties,” he said.
https://www.dailysabah.com/world/af...-nile-dam-regardless-of-deal-with-egypt-sudan
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It's shocking that the Egyptian government is putting the interests of some self-declared Gulf monarchies ahead of the interests of the Egyptian nation.
What kind of governing system is this? Every Egyptian I've met in real life has become so hopeless. It's not funny anymore. The country is going down the drain.
What kind of governing system is this? Every Egyptian I've met in real life has become so hopeless. It's not funny anymore. The country is going down the drain.
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Ethiopia says will fill Nile dam regardless of deal with Egypt, Sudan
BY AGENCIES
ISTANBUL AFRICA
JUN 26, 2020 11:46 AM GMT+3
The Blue Nile river flows near the site of the planned Grand Ethiopian Renaissance Dam near Assosa in the Benishangul-Gumuz region of Ethiopia, near Sudan, some 800 kilometers (500 miles) from the capital Addis Ababa, June 28, 2013. (AP Photo)
Ethiopia says it will start filling the reservoir of Africa's largest dam along the Nile, despite a lack of agreement from downstream nations Egypt and Sudan.
The $4.6 billion Grand Ethiopian Renaissance Dam (GERD), which Ethiopia has been building since 2010 along the Blue Nile, has long caused animosity with Egypt.
"We will go ahead with the filling of the dam next month even if there's no agreement reached," Ethiopian Foreign Minister Gedu Andargachew told German Press Agency (dpa).
He said that while they were still hoping to reach an agreement, "Egypt's insistence on controlling the river flow" was hampering proceedings.
A decade of arduous talks involving the two downstream countries, Egypt and Sudan, and upstream Ethiopia have ended in deadlock, with Egypt turning to the U.N. Security Council last week.
Egypt formally asked the Security Council to intervene in a three-page letter the same day.
The Egyptian letter asked the U.N.’s most powerful body to call Ethiopia back into talks for a “fair and balanced solution,” and to urge it to refrain from unilateral acts. The government warned that filling the dam without a deal “constitutes a clear and present danger to Egypt,” with repercussions that “threaten international peace and security.”
Egypt seeks a legally binding deal that would guarantee the appropriate flows of water and a legal mechanism for resolving disputes before the dam starts operating. Sudan later joined Egypt in asking the Security Council to intervene in the dispute, warning that the window for the three countries to reach an agreement “is closing by the hour.”
Sudanese Foreign Minister Asmaa Mohammed Abdalla asked the council in a letter obtained Thursday by The Associated Press to call on leaders of the three countries “to demonstrate their political will and commitment by resolving the few remaining issues and conclude an agreement” on the basis of the draft Sudan submitted June 14.
Ethiopia, however, has threatened to start filling the 74 billion-cubic-meter reservoir when the rainy season begins in July, a step Egypt considers both unacceptable and illegal.
Ethiopia wants the hydroelectric dam in order to expand its power exports whereas Egypt relies almost exclusively on the Nile for farming, industry and domestic water use.
It is concerned that GERD's sluices will control water flow in ways that will make life difficult for Egyptians.
Ethiopia says Egyptian concerns are baseless.
"The Egyptians want us to offer a lot, but they are not ready to offer us anything. They want to control everything. We are not discussing a water-sharing agreement," Andargachew said.
The United States earlier this year tried to broker a deal, but Ethiopia did not attend the signing meeting in February and accused the Trump administration of siding with Egypt. Last week, the U.S. National Security Council tweeted that “257 million people in east Africa are relying on Ethiopia to show strong leadership, which means striking a fair deal.”
U.N. Secretary-General Antonio Guterres said at a news conference Thursday that the U.N. believes the negotiating process “is still moving forward” and fully supports it.
“We believe that the only way out in a situation like this is through dialogue among the parties, and we will be at the disposal of the parties,” he said.
https://www.dailysabah.com/world/af...-nile-dam-regardless-of-deal-with-egypt-sudan
Don't fill up dam, without agreement - well the agreement will surely include filling up the dam, so FAK YOU. - Ethiopia maybe..
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How many Egyptians have you met in your life? be honest! HaHa
last chance for the egyptians, either they will accept or they will have to live with the consequences of not accepting the ethiopian terms.
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