Elon Musk vs. China | Starlink, Tesla, SpaceX and the New Cold War

[Yankee-stani]

 

[Figaro]

If anything Elon Musk is getting closer to China lol ... I heard there are talks about starting a Giga Factory in Chongqing, China. If this is true, then Tesla is one step closer to ruling the Chinese EV industry

 

[vi-va]

Tesla is US brand, but will mainly made and sell in China.
I mean it, all the parts(100%) will be made in China, including battery, motor, electronics.
SpaceX is a success, but China is not far behind, just a few years, not significant enough to have a big impact. The technology if SpaceX is completely within China capability, and there are quite a few projects on reusable rockets, we will see.
Starlink, hard to judge right now. China is working on it. Again, a fews years gap only.

I am following on the progress, I knew what I am saying.

 

[Chhatrapati]

The technology if SpaceX is completely within China capabilit

I'm yet to see a Chinese rocket do this

 

[vi-va]

I'm yet to see a Chinese rocket do this

you will see it within a couple of years. Actually China has the ability now, but not mature enough, need a few more year to finalize.

Indians have a inferior mentality, worship white. I understand.

This is a Chinese company demo. Open your eyes.
https://www.bilibili.com/video/av36059622/

 

[Chhatrapati]

you will see it within a couple of years. Actually China has the ability now, but not mature enough, need a few more year to finalize.

I don't think so. But good luck to you.

 

[vi-va]

I don't think so. But good luck to you.

Indians have a inferior mentality, worship white. I understand.

This is a Chinese company demo. Open your eyes.
https://www.bilibili.com/video/av36059622/

This is a small company called 领航
first test
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Gb411V7XM

second test
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1gb411V7Yj

Third test
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1V4411Z7Hd


Solid, glider and parachute
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV17b411G7Rh

Indians just Indians. Inferior mentality deeply rooted.

 

[King Julien]

There was a leak, it was palantir who pushed Tesla for giga Shanghai and Beijing is considering ban on Tesla autopilot.

 

[Chhatrapati]

Indians have a inferior mentality, worship white. I understand.

This is a Chinese company demo. Open your eyes.
https://www.bilibili.com/video/av36059622/

This is a small company called 领航
second test
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1gb411V7Yj?from=search&seid=15864275189057892978
Third test
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1V4411Z7Hd?from=search&seid=15864275189057892978

Indians just Indians. Inferior mentality deeply rooted.

Looks like I stroked your ego. This is a 'hilarious' version of what SpaceX does. No, it's not the same, remember that bus scam so I don't really give much importance to copy cat SpaceX. Anyway, you're simply demonstrating the rocket static stabilizing system and controlling the jet flow. Even the North Koreans can do this. The SpaceX rockets free fall from hundreds of miles into the earth. And it's not as simple as launching something up few meters then controlling it down. Watch this. You can fool gullible Chinese with these mockup test videos.

 

[vi-va]

Looks like I stroked your ego. This is a 'hilarious' version of what SpaceX does. No, it's not the same, remember that bus scam so I don't really give much importance to copy cat SpaceX. Anyway, you're simply demonstrating the rocket static stabilizing system and controlling the jet flow. Even the North Koreans can do this. The SpaceX rockets free fall from thousands of miles into the earth. And it's not as simple as launching something up few meters then controlling it down. Watch this. You can fool gullible Chinese with these mockup test videos.

I knew you gonna post this. It's US technology, not yours. No need to be over exicited.

You don't understand technology evolution, you kind of like girls, like Bling, Bling.

You like fancy stuff, but technology evolution is usually under the water which you can't see it.

The key of SpaceX is the Automatic Control System and engines, others are old tech, not something revolutionary.

What China is doing is pushing the key technology. Once it's mature, you will see the result which will be fancy as well.

Bling Bling for you.

Inferior mentality indeed.

 

[LeGenD]

Tesla is the first American company to retain full control of its operations and technologies in China.

This is the deal:

"For years, China wouldn't let foreign companies set up domestic subsidiaries to manufacture products for the world's second-largest economy. They had to get a partner and share profits and technology.

Now, Tesla convinced China to change this policy and has become the first wholly foreign-owned automobile company in China. And it's getting a gift from China for doing so: the ability to raise low-cost funds.

But China is getting a gift from Tesla, too: a promise to open an R&D facility in China and tap domestic talent to design cars for the local market." - Forbes

R&D facility is a good initiative and consideration. Credit to President Xi Jinping.

 

[Chhatrapati]

The key of SpaceX is the Automatic Control System and engines, others are old tech, not something revolutionary.

haha Automatic Control System

You don't understand technology evolution, you kind of like girls, like Bling, Bling.

Here Mr Bling bling read something while you're at it. If these websites are not banned already. Next time you won't call it an automatic control system on engines
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attitude_control
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_damping
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spin-stabilisation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX_reusable_launch_system_development_program#Technologies

 

[vi-va]

Tesla is the first American company to retain full control of its operations and technologies in China.

This is the deal:

"For years, China wouldn't let foreign companies set up domestic subsidiaries to manufacture products for the world's second-largest economy. They had to get a partner and share profits and technology.

Now, Tesla convinced China to change this policy and has become the first wholly foreign-owned automobile company in China. And it's getting a gift from China for doing so: the ability to raise low-cost funds.

But China is getting a gift from Tesla, too: a promise to open an R&D facility in China and tap domestic talent to design cars for the local market." - Forbes

R&D facility is a good initiative and consideration. Credit to President Xi Jinping.

Not just that.
This deal involves loans, and some thing else more important.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

If anything Elon Musk is getting closer to China lol ... I heard there are talks about starting a Giga Factory in Chongqing, China. If this is true, then Tesla is one step closer to ruling the Chinese EV industry

Tesla isn't even profitable yet. BYD actually makes money.