Elon Musk a genius or a thief in disguise?

[kingQamaR]

Other than that, electric cars are way more reliable, require way less maintenance and on average survive longer than an ICE car (Probably not a Toyota though lol) since they have way less moving parts (i.e. there's probably 20~ moving parts in an electrical engine while there are thousands in IC engines) and no engine oils/hydraulic fluids or even a transmission.

All electric cars are not the most cost effective option. Let alone the expensive purchase price, cost of replacements batteries, cost of manufacturing the batteries, cost of electricity to charge them, limited range, the inconvenience of planning your trip via charging points, they just don't work for everyone. They may work for those people who live near their place of work, and have a very short distance to travel, but not for people more remote. We already have the best current option available, until some viable and cost effective is developed. Hybrids, petrol / electric, is currently the best viable and cost effective option

 

[Foinikas]

But that applies only to people in the West, right?

The **** does the West have to do with that?

 

[SecularNationalist]

Musk is a very stable genius.

The soul of our famous double shah resides in him

 

[RealNapster]

The difference is your daughter is your blood, while your step daughter is just the girl of a woman you married, unrelated by blood.

You could argue the morality of this action but don't deceive others into thinking he f*cked his own daughter

She : it's not right, I am your sister.

@Beny Karachun : Step sister.

 

[Beny Karachun]

All electric cars are not the most cost effective option. Let alone the expensive purchase price, cost of replacements batteries, cost of manufacturing the batteries, cost of electricity to charge them, limited range, the inconvenience of planning your trip via charging points, they just don't work for everyone. They may work for those people who live near their place of work, and have a very short distance to travel, but not for people more remote. We already have the best current option available, until some viable and cost effective is developed. Hybrids, petrol / electric, is currently the best viable and cost effective option

Electric cars aren't more expensive than normal cars anymore, sure you could buy a 50,000 dollar Tesla Model Y but you also have many other Korean and Chinese options which are cheaper.

Batteries have 7 years of warranty and a life time of at least 10 years easily. Car engines aren't cheap to replace either.

Cost of electricity to charge them? It's 4 times cheaper than fuel per km, what are you talking about? Practically free if your house has solar panels.

Limited range depends on where you live. Many nations have extensive charging networks.
Certain nations are small enough to go on a cross country trip on a single charge.
Batteries are getting cheaper and better, the more expensive cars can go 800+ km om a charge, while the average electric car goes 400km, it's way more than the daily commute of most people which is 30-50km.

You're wrong. Hybrid and petrol cars are not the best solution. More complex thus easier to break and more expensive to repair design, pollution, 4 times more expensive per km.

Electric cars have a lot more room for technological improvements in the field of battery technology than there is room for improvement in the engine technology.

She : it's not right, I am your sister.

@Beny Karachun : Step sister.

Lmfao

 

[lastofthepatriots]

May beny never have a step daughter.

 

[kingQamaR]

Electric cars aren't more expensive than normal cars anymore, sure you could buy a 50,000 dollar Tesla Model Y but you also have many other Korean and Chinese options which are cheaper.

Batteries have 7 years of warranty and a life time of at least 10 years easily. Car engines aren't cheap to replace either.

Cost of electricity to charge them? It's 4 times cheaper than fuel per km, what are you talking about? Practically free if your house has solar panels.

Limited range depends on where you live. Many nations have extensive charging networks.
Certain nations are small enough to go on a cross country trip on a single charge.
Batteries are getting cheaper and better, the more expensive cars can go 800+ km om a charge, while the average electric car goes 400km, it's way more than the daily commute of most people which is 30-50km.

You're wrong. Hybrid and petrol cars are not the best solution. More complex thus easier to break and more expensive to repair design, pollution, 4 times more expensive per km.

Electric cars have a lot more room for technological improvements in the field of battery technology than there is room for improvement in the engine technology.


Lmfao

The reason for electric cars is not to save on pollution but to ensure that mosst people will not be able to afford to run a car

The last time I listen to the Government and Experts, I bought a diesel car, so you'll understand why I'm in no hurry to take their fantastic advise again this time

My car is 10 years old, well looked after and paid it's carbon footprint back a long time ago. I'm saving the planet by keeping it

You pump co2 into the qtmosphere every time you take a breath.

the energy cost to scrap and recycle an old car and build a new electric car far outweighs the emissions of keeping the old car running. It is so transparently obvious

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Musk family is one of the white supremacist families and also a symbol of apartheid/colonization of Africa and also represent other dangerouus ideologies such as Nazism.

Well I guess we know what the real basis for this thread is...

Just think of all the wonderful inventions Iran brings to the world every year because of their "angelic" ideologies.

Other than that, electric cars are way more reliable, require way less maintenance and on average survive longer than an ICE car (Probably not a Toyota though lol) since they have way less moving parts (i.e. there's probably 20~ moving parts in an electrical engine while there are thousands in IC engines) and no engine oils/hydraulic fluids or even a transmission.

Tesla Model S Early Adopter Has Now Traveled Over 1 Million Miles

We figured this was inevitable, as this Tesla owner has been keeping the world apprised of his Model S mileage over the years. What an epic achievement.

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Tesla Model S Early Adopter Has Now Traveled Over 1 Million Miles​

The Model S owner believes the incredible milestone will make it into the Guinness Book of World Records.​

Meh, Thomas Edison was an a**hole and Steve Jobs was a prick to work for.

I actually know somebody who reported directly to Steve Jobs and he definitely confirmed Steve Jobs was not an easy guy to deal with...especially if he was not in a good mood (which was often).

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

And that is the issue with your country. You don't have to be a genius or a hard worker to succeed. You require capital to get to the establishment and once you're in, you're in. We view it as a corrupt system where a minority ride off the fat of the majority. You view it as accepted capitalism. Neither Edison nor Jobs have any role in our history. I commented about Musk for the sole reason that he was South African of origin and I am familiar with certain of his family members

"Corrupt systems" don't magically create reusable rockets or 100% EVs out of thin air. If that was the case the world would have had these hundreds of years ago.

There are plenty of "non-corrupt countries" on this planet with more capital than SpaceX or Tesla and apparently that hasn't helped them accomplish such advances in rocketry and EVs. So I guess the logical solution is they should lean towards more "corruption" to fix this gap.

 

[RescueRanger]

 

[fallstuff]

He is clever as a fox, managed to get bail out after bail out !

 

[Foinikas]

Look,he is smart,he is charismatic. At first,I thought he was cool. But as he starts buying companies here and there and after his indirect participation in the war in Ukraine,you have to wonder.

He said one thing on twitter and immidiately destroyed Bitcoin. I think it was Bitcoin,right?

 

[dBSPL]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1537906813797945347

 

[Yaoudelizard]

Modern day Thomas Edison. Both making money off of Tesla.

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

In portraying the currents of the mainstream media empire in the West, Elon Musk is an "amazing genius" who, through his astonishing genius, ambition, and recklessness, ruthlessly enters the realm of advanced technology, and at this relatively young age, he is a powerful competitor to institutions such as the Pentagon and NASA. In a way, he is a new version of the idols and goddesses of the bold new world, including Steve Jobs and Bill Gates.
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Even the work of this mythical illustration has reached a point where in spam called the article, God is considered a creature like Elon Musk!
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'Scientists reveal that God's face looks like Elon Musk!'

But is Elon Musk really a "genius" at the level that is being publicized about him?
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He was born in 1971 in South Africa. He grew up in a wealthy family. His family owned an emerald mine. "His father, Errol Musk, said in an interview:

"We were very rich. Sometimes we had so much money that we could not even go near the safe."

As a teenager, he apparently went to jewelry stores with pockets full of emeralds belonging to his father, selling them and pocketing his money.
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However, in order to present his self-made manifestations, Elon claimed that after college, he owed $ 100,000 in college debt and that he could not even afford a second-hand computer.

But the point is, he received a full scholarship while studying for a bachelor's degree at the University of Pennsylvania. Apart from that, during his university years, he bought a 10-bedroom house with one of his university students, Adeo Ressi, and turned it into a nightclub. [1]
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In media advertising, Elon Musk is said to have an IQ of "155". It is not clear under which test this number was obtained. But it is clear that when he entered Stanford University for a doctorate in physics, he lasted only two days and then dropped out. [2]

Elon Musk registered his first company, ZIP2, with his brother Kimbal in 1995 in Palo Alto, California. He received tens of thousands of dollars from his parents to start the company, which worked to create a gateway to online commercials (something known in the United States as Yellow Pages and in our own country inspired by projects like Book One). In addition, their father's business partner, Greg Curry, agreed to find a business partner for the project. Interestingly, today Elon Musk has been described as a programming genius since he was a teenager, while all his coding for ZIP2 was wrong and they had to hire a few professional programmers to rewrite the codes. [3]
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The webpage of Zip2

In 1999, the two managed to persuade CC to buy zip2 from them to expand their search engine (AltaVista). Your zipper sold for $ 307 million, and Elon and his brother grossed $ 35 million. Interestingly, the acquisition of the company became a major loss for CC executives, who were unable to make any profit from the deal and were eventually forced to liquidate it. [4] Elon Musk, of course, made a huge profit from the deal, giving himself a $ 1 million prize of $ 22 million and buying a super-expensive McLaren F1. He did not insure the car and almost destroyed it in an accident. All these so-called luxury toys helped make his brand more famous.

In December 1999, after selling zip2, Elon Mask and three others (Harris Fricker, Christopher Payne, and Ed Ho) established an online bank called X.COM. However, just five months after the company took office, Fricker arranged for the mask to be removed from the company's policy and for Fricker to take over as CEO. In March 2000, X.com was purchased by its competitor, Confinity, and the new company was renamed to X.com.
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The crucial point is that in today's media advertising, "PayPal" is introduced as a masterpiece and a turning point in his innovations and the beginning of his leapfrogging process. However, PayPal was originally invented by Max Levchin and Peter Thiel, the founders of Confiniti in 1998, before merging with X.com, and Mask had no role in its design! [5]
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Max Levchin and Peter Thiel inventors of PayPal

For the past few months, Musk has been involved in the merger of X.com and Confiniti, despite having the largest number of shares and becoming the CEO, has been embroiled in a power struggle with other major shareholders and executives. Thus, in September 2000, while on a honeymoon trip to Australia, he was fired by the board of directors and effectively fired from the management of the company, and was replaced by Peter Thiel, co-designer of PayPal with Lucien. [6] It was not until June 2001 that the company changed its name from X.com (Under Musk's pressure) to PayPal. [7]
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Interestingly, an agreement was signed for Elon Mask to resign from X.com, which, in order to prevent his reputation from being damaged, was published everywhere on the company's websites as one of the "founders" of the old and new X.com and its related companies. The same agreement later allowed Elon Musk to introduce himself everywhere as the founder of PayPal, even though he had no role in designing the electronic transaction system.
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Clause of the resignation agreement between Musk and PayPal executives

Under Peter Thiel, PayPal grew in value, eventually selling the company to eBay for $ 1.5 billion. Elon Musk's share of the deal was $ 180 million. With this money, he was able to invest in Tesla, SpaceX and the failed and bankrupt company Solar City. Contrary to all the propaganda and myths and, of course, his own false claims, Elon Musk is not the founder of Tesla. Tesla was founded in 2003 by Marc Tarpenning and Martin Eberhard. [8]
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Mask invested about $ 30 million in Tesla with the proceeds from the PayPal deal, and with that capital he became chairman of the company. When the New York Times wrote about Tesla's founding in an article in 2006, it made no mention of Elon Musk. The matter was very serious for Musk, who complained in an email to Martin Eberhard, co-founder and original inventor of Tesla. In order to win the heart of the main investor, Eberhard fired the CEO and replaced him with Musk. But Musk instead began a conspiracy and coup against Eberhard, and in 2007, he ousted the founder. In 2009, Eberhard filed a lawsuit against Musk, accusing him of plotting to oust him from the company he had founded. In Eberhard's complaint, Elon Musk is accused of manipulating all the company's archival information in order to "rewrite" the company's history, to establish himself as the main founder and creator of the Tesla brand! [10] [11]
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About the adventures of Elon Musk with the space company "SpaceX", we also see extremely foolish stories that are published by the media that promotes the "Elon Musk" brand. That one day he visits a NASA website and sees that there are no plans to travel to Mars. Then he goes to Russia to buy a cheap rocket, but he does not find it, and then he makes a vow to build a rocket himself and starts reading books, and so on.

SpaceX and the "Mars Colonization" project are more like Disney Disney stories, and they's too slow to seduce the general public! Someone who has not had a single day of education or even practical work in the field of rocket and aerospace equipment, suddenly becomes a space technology giant and a partner and even a competitor of NASA is more like a children's story! However, there are some details in this story that show that in the story of the establishment of "SpaceX", others were the main actors, but as usual, the fruit of fame was stolen by Musk.

According to this well-established media story, in October 2001, 30-year-old Elon Musk traveled to Moscow with Jim Cantrell and his college friend Adeo Ressi to buy rockets from Russian space companies. But who is Jim Cantrell? As much as Elon Musk was an unkown aerospace-related figure in 2001, he was an internationally recognized individual in the field. The well-known entrepreneur and mechanical engineer had worked with space organizations in several countries and personally founded the Phantom Aerospace Company.
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He also worked with the Pentagon on defense projects. Significantly, Canterll was the co-founder, vice president, and think tank of SpaceX. He was even the chief engineer of the company's first major project, the Falcon 1. [12]
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Unlike Musk, he had studied in this field (rocket production), had many years of practical experience, and had worked for many years with various aerospace organizations. [13] [14] But today there is no mention of the name Cantrell in the history of SpaceX, as it seems that only one name was to remain in the middle, grow and become a "myth".

But the story becomes more interesting when we know about those alleged trips to Russia to buy ballistic missiles. In February 2022, a very interesting figure joined Musk and his other comrades: Michael D. Griffin, a physicist and aerospace engineer, Deputy Secretary of Defense, a CIA fellow in science and technology, the story becomes even more interesting when knowing the fact that This person became the 11th director of NASA (2005-2009) three years after this trip! [15]
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Jim Cantrell's explanation about the afforementioned trip

Generally Theives are Geniuses. The question is wrong.