Egypt is heading towards the "petroleum leadership" through the export of Libya and Iraq Oil

[The SC]

Egypt is heading towards the "petroleum leadership" through the export of Libya and Iraq Oil to Europe

The major political and economic changes in the Middle East, particularly in light of the end of the "da'esh" and its control over a number of strategic points and oil crossings, as well as the changes witnessed by the Libyan neighbor, have revealed the return of the ambitious Egyptian project to transfer Iraqi and Libyan oil to Egyptian refineries and to Europe.

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https://almasdare.com/94969

 

[BHarwana]

Aaaa but Iraq oil is going to BP?

 

[HaywanKurdi]

Aaaa but Iraq oil is going to BP?

kirkuks oil goes to BP

 

[Gomig-21]

Egypt is heading towards the "petroleum leadership" through the export of Libya and Iraq Oil to Europe

The major political and economic changes in the Middle East, particularly in light of the end of the "da'esh" and its control over a number of strategic points and oil crossings, as well as the changes witnessed by the Libyan neighbor, have revealed the return of the ambitious Egyptian project to transfer Iraqi and Libyan oil to Egyptian refineries and to Europe.

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https://almasdare.com/94969

Ishta 3aleiki ya Masr. Kamel shoghlak el 3azeem da ya Sisi we raga3 Masr 3ashan te2ba om el dunya tany InshaAllah.

 

[Mhmoud]

I believe that Libya does have the necessary infrastructure to refine its oil.

So unless output balloons past the 2 million bpd (impossible without some changes), then I would think it unnecessary.

 

[Gomig-21]

I believe that Libya does have the necessary infrastructure to refine its oil.

So unless output balloons past the 2 million bpd (impossible without some changes), then I would think it unnecessary.

I suppose the same can be said about Iraq, too, but I think it has to do with this energy hub idea that is happening in Egypt's northern coast and the gas contracts that have been (or are going to be signed) with Europe to export all the gas coming from Israel and from Zohr and other Egyptian fields that might include a petroleum package too, hence this possibility from Libya and Iraq. I'm also thinking that oil production and exporting capacity has changed a bit in both, Libya and Iraq since the two wars, no?

 

[Mhmoud]

I suppose the same can be said about Iraq, too, but I think it has to do with this energy hub idea that is happening in Egypt's northern coast and the gas contracts that have been (or are going to be signed) with Europe to export all the gas coming from Israel and from Zohr and other Egyptian fields that might include a petroleum package too, hence this possibility from Libya and Iraq. I'm also thinking that oil production and exporting capacity has changed a bit in both, Libya and Iraq since the two wars, no?

We did have a big dip during the war, from 1.2 million to far less. In 2014, it as closed for 2 years, and some of the massive storage tanks burned down.

However, last year we reached 1 million bpd and the refineries look pretty fine. Last year when I was in Tripoli, the port had an LPG ship, so I would say that gas is fine too.

We have had some Egyptian businessmen last year visit Libya in order to begin economic cooperation between Egyptian and Libyan companies in production and refinement. It might be about that.

 

[The SC]

I believe that Libya does have the necessary infrastructure to refine its oil.

So unless output balloons past the 2 million bpd (impossible without some changes), then I would think it unnecessary.

That is the case..remember that Libya needs to reconstruct massively and will need to boost its Oil production past the 2 million bpd..so there where the Egyptian raffineries will be needed.. as well as most cement will come from Egypt too..

 

[Gomig-21]

We did have a big dip during the war, from 1.2 million to far less. In 2014, it as closed for 2 years, and some of the massive storage tanks burned down.

However, last year we reached 1 million bpd and the refineries look pretty fine. Last year when I was in Tripoli, the port had an LPG ship, so I would say that gas is fine too.

We have had some Egyptian businessmen last year visit Libya in order to begin economic cooperation between Egyptian and Libyan companies in production and refinement. It might be about that.

I think you are spot on, again, as usual!

BTW, keeping a close eye on the developments coming up, particularly the elections. What's your opinion on how it will go?

Egypt's Sisi discusses developments in Libya with Macron by phone
Ahram Online , Sunday 27 May 2018

Egypt's President Abdel-Fattah El-Sisi received a phone call from his French counterpart Emmanuel Macron on Sunday to discuss several regional issues, including developments in Libya.

The two leaders also discussed ways of enhancing bilateral cooperation and other regional issues, El-Sisis’s spokesman Bassam Rady said in a statement, with Macron praising Egypt’s efforts to restore stability and to unify Libya's military.

Libyan factions are set to meet on Tuesday in Paris to agree on a political roadmap to resolve disputed issues, to pave the way for UN-backed elections this year.

The Egyptian president affirmed Cairo's commitment to supporting efforts to reach a political settlement in Libya, stressing the importance of good preparation and of holding the Libyan elections this year.

El-Sisi and Macron also affirmed the necessity of combining international efforts to push forward the political settlement efforts in Syria and end the humanitarian suffering of the Syrian people.

http://english.ahram.org.eg/News/301288.aspx

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BTW, I'm sure you remember the rumors (and that's really all they were) that Egypt was intending on invading eastern Libya to secure the border and try to positively impact the civil war, then the Algerians got all chest thumpy and loud (not sure why, considering the insignificance from that side of the border that has been nothing but that) and they threatened to intervene loooool, yeah, ok, but whatever. The point is that those people on that side have done jack diddly squat to contribute or to help preserve peace in the area or even unity among Arab concerns against terrorism in general that has affected all our countries. So I find it rather hypocritical of the Algerians to flap their yaps like they did, but not surprised of course. We see that wild, filthy, gum-flapping right here on this forum (and even some Arabic ones as well.) They need to zip it up, shut their trap and worry about themselves only which is something they excel at, selfishness, and stop trying to make it appear like they have a saying in anything, particularly with the Libyan/Egyptian brotherly efforts when they've done jack, diddly squat to contribute any effort in the fight against terrorism in the Arab and Muslim world. Just keep doing what you do best, nothing. Libya & Egypt, despite our past feuds, are connected as one and our intentions in Libya are nothing short of seeing the best possible outcome for our Libyan brothers and sisters.

 

[Mhmoud]

I think you are spot on, again, as usual!

BTW, keeping a close eye on the developments coming up, particularly the elections. What's your opinion on how it will go?

Egypt's Sisi discusses developments in Libya with Macron by phone
Ahram Online , Sunday 27 May 2018

Egypt's President Abdel-Fattah El-Sisi received a phone call from his French counterpart Emmanuel Macron on Sunday to discuss several regional issues, including developments in Libya.

The two leaders also discussed ways of enhancing bilateral cooperation and other regional issues, El-Sisis’s spokesman Bassam Rady said in a statement, with Macron praising Egypt’s efforts to restore stability and to unify Libya's military.

Libyan factions are set to meet on Tuesday in Paris to agree on a political roadmap to resolve disputed issues, to pave the way for UN-backed elections this year.

The Egyptian president affirmed Cairo's commitment to supporting efforts to reach a political settlement in Libya, stressing the importance of good preparation and of holding the Libyan elections this year.

El-Sisi and Macron also affirmed the necessity of combining international efforts to push forward the political settlement efforts in Syria and end the humanitarian suffering of the Syrian people.

http://english.ahram.org.eg/News/301288.aspx

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BTW, I'm sure you remember the rumors (and that's really all they were) that Egypt was intending on invading eastern Libya to secure the border and try to positively impact the civil war, then the Algerians got all chest thumpy and loud (not sure why, considering the insignificance from that side of the border that has been nothing but that) and they threatened to intervene loooool, yeah, ok, but whatever. The point is that those people on that side have done jack diddly squat to contribute or to help preserve peace in the area or even unity among Arab concerns against terrorism in general that has affected all our countries. So I find it rather hypocritical of the Algerians to flap their yaps like they did, but not surprised of course. We see that wild, filthy, gum-flapping right here on this forum (and even some Arabic ones as well.) They need to zip it up, shut their trap and worry about themselves only which is something they excel at, selfishness, and stop trying to make it appear like they have a saying in anything, particularly with the Libyan/Egyptian brotherly efforts when they've done jack, diddly squat to contribute any effort in the fight against terrorism in the Arab and Muslim world. Just keep doing what you do best, nothing. Libya & Egypt, despite our past feuds, are connected as one and our intentions in Libya are nothing short of seeing the best possible outcome for our Libyan brothers and sisters.

I agree with you. We are brothers in the end.

I think that the elections will go on pretty fine if Haftar has another stroke. Whenever he is in a meeting with somebody big, like El Sissi or Macron, he agrees that the elections are the only way through the war. But as soon as he's out of there, he throws a tantrum about it and opens the conspiracy theory books, saying that it's a ploy against the Libyan people. So unless he leaves or Agailah Saleh dies of a stroke, then elections can only be held in the Western region.

A good sign is that Egypt has accepted a new consul for the consulate in Alexandria, from the recommendation of the GNA. The previous one went to the Cairo embassy and raided it, and injured a few people. This shows a reapproachment between these parties as Egypt loses patience with Haftar.

I think that the reason why the Algerians have made such a big deal over the roumors was that the Algerians want to keep their military dominance over their turf. They don't want a stronger neighbour than themselves. Other than that, their government is a rotting carcass of the greatness of people like Houari Boumediene and Ben Bella, among others. Those guys were real heroes, meanwhile Bouteflika and his henchmen are basically living mummies. Algeria's people really couldn't do much.

Ceylal is somebody with some serious issues. Maybe he was affected by the war in the 90s or he was born into this state of delusion. But Allah yeshfeeh. But others like Ezerdi and other users, I have no quarrel with them.

 

[Gomig-21]

I agree with you. We are brothers in the end.

I think that the elections will go on pretty fine if Haftar has another stroke. Whenever he is in a meeting with somebody big, like El Sissi or Macron, he agrees that the elections are the only way through the war. But as soon as he's out of there, he throws a tantrum about it and opens the conspiracy theory books, saying that it's a ploy against the Libyan people. So unless he leaves or Agailah Saleh dies of a stroke, then elections can only be held in the Western region.

A good sign is that Egypt has accepted a new consul for the consulate in Alexandria, from the recommendation of the GNA. The previous one went to the Cairo embassy and raided it, and injured a few people. This shows a reapproachment between these parties as Egypt loses patience with Haftar.

Haftar is kind of an enigma, not necessarily a good one, but one none the less since his presence certainly has influence in what happens to governing Libya when all is set and done which honestly, from my personal perspective, I actually wish he wasn't important to Egypt and Sisi. But he is. More importantly is that Libya ends up under one, democratically elected government by the people and not split up in any way. The breaking up -- or potential of the country becoming divided up -- honestly doesn't sit well with me and I'm guessing it doesn't with you either.

All those government militias also need to go ASAP. I never thought that was a good idea (although needed at the time) since they're so susceptible to corruption and a sovereign country needs a strong, patriotic and more importantly a self-governing army in control of the entire country. ISA that will be the case.

Speaking of a healthy Haftar, Mahmoud Abbas is also not doing so well ATM. He has major health issues (emphysema, I think) from being a brutal chain smoker and at his age, not a good thing. He's another one who's important for Egypt considering the side he represents suits our policy more so than his opposition. In Libya, though, I see things are different from the Egyptian perspective since it appears Sisi also supports the GNA and a UN backed election. So that's a good thing.

I think that the reason why the Algerians have made such a big deal over the roumors was that the Algerians want to keep their military dominance over their turf. They don't want a stronger neighbour than themselves. Other than that, their government is a rotting carcass of the greatness of people like Houari Boumediene and Ben Bella, among others. Those guys were real heroes, meanwhile Bouteflika and his henchmen are basically living mummies. Algeria's people really couldn't do much.

Too bad it took that silly rumor and gum-flapping to get them to join the effort in helping Libya. Now the Algerians are finally involved in a tripartite with our Tunisian brothers to assist Libya into becoming a great nation like it deserves to be. This is what Arab unity needs to be like during these times, not the way they were behaving.

 

[HannibalBarca]

This article is based on the Hypothesis that Libya current political "Fracture" is going to be the new "Normal".

But if by any chance Libya comes to an unified front, passing via Egypt isn't necessary, neither wise ( Because of third party dependency)
Libya has the mean to invest on Infrastructures and it's Export Market is not that diversified, for her to be a problem.

 

[Gomig-21]

I think that the elections will go on pretty fine if Haftar has another stroke.

@Mhmoud , what's your opinion on this latest development, my bro? Does it seem promising?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1001424361746829313

 

[Mhmoud]

@Mhmoud , what's your opinion on this latest development, my bro? Does it seem promising?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1001424361746829313

It's good to see some development in this. The elections really do look like a good roadmap should everything fall into place.

We should really look at the next events closely, as it is the first time a major conference happened. Especially after Haftar's stroke, he might not be all that enthusiastic to rule any more.

However, we should take it with a grain of salt as well, as it is not the first time that Haftar has agreed on elections. But the set of events preceding this one and the increasing international support for the GNA might mean that he will do this to keep his life.

The next few months will be exciting.

 

[Gomig-21]

It's good to see some development in this. The elections really do look like a good roadmap should everything fall into place.

We should really look at the next events closely, as it is the first time a major conference happened. Especially after Haftar's stroke, he might not be all that enthusiastic to rule any more.

However, we should take it with a grain of salt as well, as it is not the first time that Haftar has agreed on elections. But the set of events preceding this one and the increasing international support for the GNA might mean that he will do this to keep his life.

The next few months will be exciting.

Indeed. He might not have a choice this time around like you said, not just his health but it looks like overwhelming support for the GNA's agenda and the elections to go through. Kinda goes a little against the prevailing theory that Egypt and the UAE solely support Haftar, although the UAE might not have chimed in with as much support for this as Egypt has, but still, it's a good thing although we'll have to take a close look at this election law they'll be drafting to see if it has any room for the usual dictatorial loopholes and shenanigans, although something tell me it's going to be well written. To our liking, anyway.